Discrimination Against ER Nurses?

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Good morning,

My name is Dave and I am a BSN, RN who has been a licensed RN for nearly two years. My goal after graduating was to place myself in an environment where I could gain the most well-rounded experience so I could then drill down into the area I would like to be in for the rest of my career or at least for the next several years prior to returning to school for my masters.

My career as an RN began in TN working on a cardiac tele unit but after a few months, I saw 9 nurses leave and I had 7 preceptors in a matter of just a few months. Nurses just kept leaving and I realized that I wasn't getting anywhere with regard to training, certifications, etc. I began applying for additional positions in the area and even some with the government that appeared to be exotic and exciting.

In the winter of 2012, I was offered an opportunity to live with the Navajo Indians and work at a level 3 trauma center in Gallup, NM with a 17K raise. I felt this was an opportunity of a lifetime. I mean really, who gets this kinds of opportunity after being out of school for less than a year? I felt very honored especially since I had surpassed applications sent by Native Americans who always have preference with these kind of positions. My experience in Gallup, NM was one I will never forget. There I received my ACLS, TNCC and ENPC. I made some wonderful friends and had an adventure of a lifetime.

The only downside was that Gallup was an extremely violent place where it is NOT illegal to be publicly drunk(Alcoholism is 550% above average) and the town itself is very violent, hence the need for a level 3 trauma center basically on the reservation. Gallup, NM is not a place to settle down and raise a family which always has been a goal of mine. In December of 2013, I decided to look elsewhere and began applying for ER positions in the Dallas, TX area.

Soon thereafter, I received an offer from one of the major hospital systems in Dallas with a signing bonus and relocation paid with an 18 month commitment. I also received another 15k raise. Needless to say, I jumped at the chance and moved to Dallas. Unfortunately, after only 6 days on the job, my contract was breached and a few months later, I felt it was a prudent decision to leave the position I was in due to poor work conditions, no breaks and no support. I have learned the hard way that signing bonuses and paid relocation are signs of a troubled department which this certainly was. I am still a rehire but I feel that it is now time to choose my focus for my MSN as I have had enough clinical experience to truly work on any med/surg, tele, or cardiac unit which are areas I have chosen for my focus in my MSN.

Currently, I am having extreme difficulty with hospital recruiters who state that I do not qualify for any med/surg, tele or cardiac positions because I have only worked in an ER yet each application I have sent meets minimum requirements listed. I even had one recruiter tell me that I meet the minimum but not the preferred and I will not have an interview because of that. I have yet to be able to get a single interview outside the ER. I am also finding out that some of these recruiters aren't nurses that are making these judgements. The fact of the matter is that I could work circles around most med/surg and tele nurses and my skill sets are, in some cases, far beyond the average nurse on these types of floors.

So my question is, "Am I being discriminated against?" and if so, who can I speak to about this? The latest claim of not being qualified has come from a hospital system with central recruiting. They have refused to provide me with specifics on how I am not qualified and will not let me speak to the recruiter who is making the claim. This is also a hospital system with more than 500 nursing positions to fill just in the Dallas, TX area alone. I feel the way I have been treated is discriminatory and I would like to hear other nurses opinions on this subject. I am absolutely qualified for the positions I have applied for. Is this just simply poor bad recruiters or am I being discriminated against?

Regards,

Dave

Specializes in Pediatric/Adolescent, Med-Surg.
According to the ANA, there's a shortage.

So then how do you explain all the unemployed RN's?

Specializes in ICU.

I think the people talking about shortages are looking at how staffing should be done, and not how it is actually being done. It is like the NCLEX world vs. the real world. In the NCLEX world, a 5:1 ratio for med/surg sounds great, but in the real world, nurses who really need to put food on the table cannot leave if the ratio has crept to 8:1. Also, in the short run, it is cheaper to abuse the staff you have until they break than it is to hire new people. Let's say a hospital pays its staff $20/hr, which is what I made last year. Me working an overtime shift at $30/hr is cheaper than having me plus an orientee, where they would be paying $40/hr for the same number of patients being cared for. Look at that, they just saved around $120 over just one 12 hour shift. Of course this is not sustainable in the long run, but who cares as long as they save money right now? So yep - the shortage is imaginary.

I'm just trying to find my way and get with a good hospital system. That's all... Every hospital in this area is looking for nurses and has residency programs for new nurses. In the Dallas area alone there are more than 1,000 open nursing positions that hospitals are looking to fill. That number does not decrease. Page after page after page of nursing positions. Every day there are new positions being listed. This does not speak to a surplus but rather a shortage on the whole. I appreciate all of your comments.

I get what you're saying and appreciate your comments.

Specializes in Home Care.

Read through the forums here on AN and you'll find your reality check.

There's no need to be abrasive.

I'm just trying to find my way and get with a good hospital system. That's all... Every hospital in this area is looking for nurses and has residency programs for new nurses. In the Dallas area alone there are more than 1,000 open nursing positions that hospitals are looking to fill. That number does not decrease. Page after page after page of nursing positions. Every day there are new positions being listed. This does not speak to a surplus but rather a shortage on the whole. I appreciate all of your comments.

As already noted, openings listed by a hospital does not equate to number of positions they are actually looking to fill. Lots of hospitals list large numbers of open positions that they have no intention of filling. In my last job before my current positions, that large "healthcare system" listed tons of open nursing positions on any given day. We used to joke that, if the hospital were really that short of nurses (as the number of job postings suggested), the hospital wouldn't be able to continue operating from day to day -- yet it was operating just fine. And the number of nursing positions listed never seemed to decrease. And new graduates in the area had a v. hard time finding work.

There may be, in some areas, a shortage of experienced RNs, and RNs with specific skills and credentials. But there is no shortage of warm bodies with RN licenses and, in the current economic and employment climate, employers are getting, in many cases, hundreds of applications for open positions. They can afford to be extremely choosy.

Best wishes.

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia.

Can you share how your previous contract was breached? Was it a written contract?

Yes, it was a written contract that guaranteed 4 to 6 weeks training with a preceptor on the systems used to chart, place verbal orders, etc. I needed training on 3 different systems and barely received training on one of them. I was pulled out of training and put on my own after only 6 days without a word. In those 6 days with my preceptor, we perhaps had no more than an hour or two to go over the system so I was completely unprepared and placed on a no win situation.

There was no consultation with my nurse manager before this was done. There was no inquiry made to either my preceptor or myself as to how I felt about it. Suddenly I was just placed on my own. I'm a very good skilled nurse but if I do not know how to use a system, I am dead in the water as any nurse would be. Within just a few days, I had physicians yelling at me because things weren't documented when I had never been shown where to document them but as we all know, physicians don't care. They just want it done.

When this issue became coupled with extreme patient overload and only two actual breaks in 3 months, I decided it was better to seek other opportunities before my license was put in jeopardy which is why this particular ER still has a revolving door to this day. The hospital lost $6,000 in signing bonuses and relocation due to the breach. They are not seeking to recover the funds and I am a re-hire. HR openly admits to the contract being unenforceable. Needless to say, I won't be returning. Basically, I moved 800 miles only to be completely screwed over.

According to the ANA, there's a shortage.

"The long-predicted nursing shortage may have been averted, according to Vanderbilt professor Peter Buerhaus.

Buerhaus, one of the nation’s leading experts on nursing labor supply, spoke at a recent healthcare workforce summit in Grapevine sponsored by Irving-based AMN Healthcare."

http://healthcare.dmagazine.com/2014/01/08/nursing-shortage-not-in-dallas-fort-worth/

Forbes:

"Has Nursing Shortage Been Over-hyped As a Career Choice?"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alisongriswold/2012/06/18/has-nursing-been-overhyped-as-a-career-choice/

The Wall Street Journal

"Ms. Smith, 27 years old, received a bachelor’s degree in nursing from theUniversity of San Francisco last year. But despite graduating summa cum laude and volunteering in both the U.S. and Guatemala, she has been unable to find a nursing job. Instead, she is working as a nanny and living on food stamps."

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/04/25/the-myth-of-the-nursing-shortage/

CNN Money

I can't find a nursing job!

"Whatever happened to the nursing shortage? These new grads can't find jobs, after months of searching.

Where's this so-called shortage?"

The Shocking Truth about the 'Nursing Shortage'!

LOLOL!!!

Also, if you have upset an employer for any reason in Dallas, you could possibly be reported to Group1, and not be able to get another job-

link to Allnurses search:

https://allnurses.com/texas-nursing/group-one-black-511844.html

Seems like there are some really vindictive nurses commenting on this post. If you're just going to laugh at me, there's no need to post. Nurses are supposed to be compassionate, not laughing at others expense or trying to tear someone down.

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