Published Feb 25, 2011
funnygir
3 Posts
I know of a nursing student who withheld the fact that she had university credits when she applied.
So basically, the rule is that when you apply to this 4-year BScN program if you have university credits you can only apply on the basis of those credits. You need 12 units all together to be eligible (most standard courses are three units each so basically you would need to have taken 4 one semester courses.) If you had fewer units you would have to go back and get the credits so that you had 12.
Once you have uni level credits it does not matter about how great your high school grades are or if you got great grades in a community college program (they are not factored in at all)
Now, as I have alluded to above, there are other ways you can apply to this degree program . One way is to complete a pre-health science program at a community college. A lot of people get very high averages in these programs and go on to enter the BScN program, getting in with previous university is harder on the other hand because most people struggle to have the 80 percent average at the university level to gain acceptance. Similarly, the admission averages when applying from high school are in the mid to high 90 range (which many ppl struggle to obtain especially given the HS prerequisites)
So I don't know about this persons grades or how many credits they got at university but I do know they went and revived credits, but applied to the BScN program and only disclosed they had done a year of pre-health at community college. So basically, it seems they cheated someone else out of a spot in the program.
The question is should I report this girl ? if I do report them is admin at the school of nursing allowed to turn a blind eye at their discretion? I could see admin concluding that the policy is stupid bc she is a competent student, and when you think about it is kind of a stupid policy. Ex if person A takes pre-health and gets a 95 percent average and person B takes pre-health gets a 95 percent average but also did a semester of university and got a 60 percent average with those credits does that make person B less qualified ?
I am from Canada if that helps contextualize things, and community college and university are 2 distinct things and the difficulty level is very different. Even the community college pre-health would be at a lower difficulty level that grade 12 university prep courses.
annister
94 Posts
If I were you, I'd be more concerned with getting myself through nursing school than with making sure someone else didn't.
TravelinCEN
46 Posts
Annister is right. I think that if you spend any energy on this, it should be only a few joules.
The university should have known about the previous credits, because it all goes to help determine if that candidate can be successful in the given program. What has happened could have knocked another student out, but at this point the outcome may or may not change if you bring it to light. Some Universities "skirt" their own academic policy, some will discharge her post haste.
That being said, don't dwell on this. Make a decision, act it out and grab your books. Study hard, don't stress over what someone may or may not have done.
itsmejuli
2,188 Posts
What goes around, comes around. Cheaters don't get far in life.
Concentrate on your own studies and future, don't worry about anyone else.
classicdame, MSN, EdD
7,255 Posts
it is also possible you do not know all the facts. Let it go. Focus on your career.
mentalhealthRN
433 Posts
Yeah gotta agree with the other posters. I think that this is the schools' concern not yours. You may not have all the correct info. You need to worry about yourself. You will always have people who don't play by the rules weather in school or in a job but you need to focus on yourself. It's not worth making yourself crazy about.
BabyLady, BSN, RN
2,300 Posts
The question is should I report this girl ? if I do report them is admin at the school of nursing allowed to turn a blind eye at their discretion? I could see admin concluding that the policy is stupid bc she is a competent student, and when you think about it is kind of a stupid policy. Ex if person A takes pre-health and gets a 95 percent average and person B takes pre-health gets a 95 percent average but also did a semester of university and got a 60 percent average with those credits does that make person B less qualified ?.
I have a better idea...why don't you focus on your own life instead of being so focused and/or jealous of another student, that you are purposely setting out a plan to ruin her future.
Here is what you are not considering: So what if she withheld credits...I personally, see nothing wrong with the practice. If I want to PAY to take classes over again that I have already taken, then that is no one else's business but mine.
Were you denied a slot in the program and she got accepted and jealous of that fact?
If you really think that the policy is stupid, then seriously...stay out of it. Unless you are completely bored and want some attention and this is the only way you can stir up some drama.
One thing you will learn in nursing school, is that NOTHING is secret or confidential...professors run their mouths about as much as the students do...so it won't take more than a few days for fellow students to figure you that you were the rat...so don't be surprised if other students immediately stay away from you because they think that you are out to elevate your own status at the expense of another student.
Cheating on an exam? Yes, turn them in.
HIPAA violation? Yup, turn them in.
However, since this has NOTHING to do with you...stay out of it.
anon695
267 Posts
If you don't have solid proof of this, like an official, sealed copy of her university transcript, then keep your mouth shut. Maybe it's true that she cheated, but maybe it's hearsay. Unless you have proof, you have to assume it's hearsay. How would you like it if somebody went and ratted you out for something with no proof, especially if you hadn't even committed the crime?
Summers_Off
168 Posts
:nono:Snitches get stitches!:sstrs:
Orange Tree
728 Posts
I think you should quit nursing school and become a detective.
lifelearningrn, BSN, RN
2,622 Posts
I don't see why this is a dilemma... it's really none of your concern. What good would getting her kicked out do anyone at this point? And really- why do you think you should take it upon yourself to point out to the school a problem within their own verification process and get a girl kicked out of school in the process?
Do you have a problem with this girl? How did you come by this information in the first place? What is it about her that makes you want to tell on her? If she were your best friend or a family member, would you even consider for a second turning her in?
I think I would have a much heavier conscience having had someone kicked out of school for this than having minded my own business and carried on with my life. JMO
79Tango
689 Posts
How bout LESS HATIN & more CONGRATULATIN?
Although now's the time to "Tell" if you are going to do it. If you wait until the real world & find out she is making more $$ then you or has a better job. It will be too late and if you "Tell" on her then you will probably get fired for not minding your business...