Denied by the California BON....help

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I graduated BSN in the Philippines 2007 After taking the exam 2x they re-evaluate my application and found out that i did not qualify to take the exam. I found out that my cases did not meet there requirements.

1st question: Do you think i can still be eligible to apply to another state like florida?

2nd question: Can i apply for LVN?

Please. Any advice????

Thanks.

@steppybay: Thank you for replying to my message. :) I already looked on TXBON before applying in CA, they needed a CGFNS, english proficiency test and a 2-year experience as a part of their requirements. Considering I didn't take the local board exam in the Philippines and I have no experience yet, so therefore I'm not qualified for ATT here. That's why I decided to apply in CA instead and have my license endorse in TX (if ever I get my ATT and pass the exam). But I'm also worried what if the same thing will happen to me, that I might get rejected in CABON because of the problems stated above in the previous thread? What shall I do next? Which state don't require much just like in CA BON? :/

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@steppybay: Thank you for replying to my message. :) I already looked on TXBON before applying in CA, they needed a CGFNS, english proficiency test and a 2-year experience as a part of their requirements. Considering I didn't take the local board exam in the Philippines and I have no experience yet, so therefore I'm not qualified for ATT here. That's why I decided to apply in CA instead and have my license endorse in TX (if ever I get my ATT and pass the exam). But I'm also worried what if the same thing will happen to me, that I might get rejected in CABON because of the problems stated above in the previous thread? What shall I do next? Which state don't require much just like in CA BON? :/

This is the point I've been trying to make to several others here, it doesn't matter if you get your RN license from state Y, if state Q is your final destination to work/practice. In your case, even with a CA license, you still need to meet all of the same exact requirements of the TX BON. So why go thru all the hassles of getting a CA license if it was even possible, when you plan to use your license in TX?

You will be wasting more money on fees and exams AND spend more time waiting to get the answer if it's okay to endorse into TX. It's best to start with your final state and if you don't meet that state's requirements, then it's time to re-think your options.

As far as CA, I guess that you have a SSN (as that's a requirement to apply) and if that's the case, you don't need to present the PH nursing license, but the question of your courses meeting the concurrency standard will most likely deny your application.

Again, it depends on what state you want to work/practice in. Forget about what's the fastest and easiest state, just know what state you plan to stay for at least a couple of years or more with the understanding that to still work in another state means meeting those same requirements even with years of experience, it will always come back to your original educational background.

You can still try to get your ATT in CA if you're willing, but be prepared and not at all surprised if you receive the dreaded rejection letter months later. You may get lucky, you never know.

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@steppybay: Thank you so much. You'd been very helpful to me and some others. :) I'd let you know the result of my application in CA whenever. I'm already prepared for that heartbreaking letter since I got a news from my batchmate that she had been rejected in CA because of deficiency in MS and OB requirement. So now she's applying in Nevada. So I'm kinda hoping that I'll get lucky or else I'll try another option again. Well I'll try and try until I succeed and will never lose hope. :D Thanks again.

Last question: If ever I got rejected, would they give me back my papers or maybe sent directly to another state which I'm planning to transfer my application? or they'll keep it and I gotta do the same process again?

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

depends on the state and whether they are willing to accept a transfer from another state. If CGFNS is required I think they will only accept from original source but I could be wrong

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whoops

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hi guys i'm here to give 2 cents on this so as to help people avoid what I went through.

To make a looooooong story short:

It took the CaBON eight months from the time i initially sent my application + extra requirements to give me my rejection letter. I never got to talk to my evaluator despite being repeatedly forwarded to her answering machine and leaving about 30 polite messages throughout the span of seven months. Not even so much as an email from her.

I along with all 6 other US citizen batchmates that applied to california got rejected for varying reasons. Mine was that my cases didnt match the schedule thing.

I never got a refund and they didn't return the documents.

Total waste of time, effort (it was extremely hard to get documents from the PRC.) and money. It also caused tremendous personal strain on my family.

I applied to a different state and got my ATT in about just 1 1/2 months. I take my NCLEX in 3 weeks and im freaking out haha. (it would have been sooner if it wasnt for, AGAIN, the PRC)

Bottom line, California really isn't the only state in the Union. It is, however, the most overcrowded with Filipino nurses which is what I believe, is the TRUE reason why they reimplemented that ludicrous law. There are 49 other beautiful states that are more willing to give you a chance.

And oh yeah. I also applied for an LVN license. I applied at around february. I never got a reply from them. God knows where they decided to throw my application.

My 2 cents:

if you did any completion duties, don't bother wasting the time and money applying to CA at this time.

If you have a local license and are required to submit a license verification form to the state board where you are applying, send it to the PRC ASAP because from what i experienced, they seem to work only when they feel like it.

AVOID the Philippine embassy in LA, unbelievable incompetence.

CGFNS is probably the best way to go in terms of credentials evaluation as they got mine done in 5 days.

Keep studying for the NCLEX even if you haven't even submitted your application because if its anything like the kaplan Qbank questions (which people say it is), it is HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD. Harder than the local boards by far!

goodluck you guys!

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best left to me for now

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My kababayans. Don't waste your time in ca Bon.. Ca Bon is not the only one Board of nursing in the USA.. Try to contact NY BON,FL BON..etc...

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My kababayans. Don't waste your time in ca Bon.. Ca Bon is not the only one Board of nursing in the USA.. Try to contact NY BON,FL BON..etc...

True!

Just be careful guys with the FL BON, as I read of so many PH grads unable to pass the NCLEX after their 3rd time, in FL, if you fail the exam after the 3rd testing, you need to re-apply and need to re-take a remedial refresher course.

So double check the state's limitation on how many times you can take it before you're asked to do some extra course or courses. Like in CA, it's unlimited times, just need to space it out every 45 days from the last failure.

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

Bottom line, California really isn't the only state in the Union. It is, however, the most overcrowded with Filipino nurses which is what I believe, is the TRUE reason why they reimplemented that ludicrous law. There are 49 other beautiful states that are more willing to give you a chance.

It is a rule that has been around over a decade it is only now coming up as being used to deny nurses and that doesn't just include nurses from the Philippines. We have seen posters from other countries post with same issues plus CA will not accept some US based courses like Excelsior

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I'm quite aware that the rule has been around awhile hence why i said reimplemented. I'm just saying, and this is purely my speculation and opinion and probably a bit of conspiracy theory but the coincidental sudden decision to enforce a rule, during a time of economic recession, and overpopulation of nurses (both US and foreign trained) especially in California, without warning or any real concrete reason, is just too convenient. I mean, Why didn't they enforce this rule when it was first written in? I apologize, again I'm admittedly biased. I'm not at all looking for an argument but somebody has to say what some of us are thinking right?

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I'm quite aware that the rule has been around awhile hence why i said reimplemented. I'm just saying, and this is purely my speculation and opinion and probably a bit of conspiracy theory but the coincidental sudden decision to enforce a rule, during a time of economic recession, and overpopulation of nurses (both US and foreign trained) especially in California, without warning or any real concrete reason, is just too convenient. I mean, Why didn't they enforce this rule when it was first written in? I apologize, again I'm admittedly biased. I'm not at all looking for an argument but somebody has to say what some of us are thinking right?

No, the blame belongs to our own CHED, PRN and PNA, these various agencies let us down. It's been on the CA books since 1987, there are posts going back to 2003 that I've been reading here, that indicated our own educational KNEW about this and ignored to comply to meet US standards, with knowledge that over 33% of all PH grads come or wish to live, work, practice in CA alone but probably die back in Phils after they gotten their retirement money (the last part I'm making up, but not the known fact of the 33% wanting to come into the States).

You have to remember that our own PH colleges and schools have always insured us that there's NO problems with ever getting a RN license in CA or any other state, when it appears they did know there are certain curriculums that are not in compliance with CA BON or other states, but didn't want to change their ways. T

The thing is they should have changed it, as they knew the vast majority of students do leave PH for greener pastures (meaning to other countries as well). Assume that the 33% didn't want to leave the country, then the nursing program in the Phils would have died down a lot! I think the 33% departure rate is even higher, as there's no facts about the numbers that want to go the UK, AU, NZ, UAE, etc. PH hospitals just don't pay the better salaries or have the better working conditions or nicer benefits.

Back in the years where there was a need to staff nurses in the CA hospitals, due to mandated nurse to patient ratio, whereby if a hospital didn't have the numbers correct, they could be shut down or fined. So back then, PH nurses was the place to go for and the rules were relaxed for that. Recognize that the CA BON can anytime re-enforce any rules they want. Remember, as others have said, to be an RN in CA (or any 49 states), it's NOT a right, but a privilege. Just like having a driver's license, just because one is of a certain age or whatever, doesn't give them the right to drive a car, they must pass exams and testings and those privileges can be taken away at any time for any reasons.

Did you also know CA is not the only state that's enforcing the concurrency issue? There's at least 12 more and I think more will be following. I heard that it was AZ first that started to enforce the concurrency back in 2009 and CA followed after that in 2009-2010. This was from my friend who was denied her ATT and she was asking around.

Anyways, it is what it is and this poster's comments are pretty much what puts things into perspective:

https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/who-blame-ca-682278.html

GeeGeebaby says it all from the above.

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