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I have been signed for EC for almost a year now and have only the info tech(?) class and I am taking a local CC prereq now, my fear is; PA BON will not except EC RN program before I am done, so I dragging my feet on taking any nursing classes through EC. Does anyone feel the same way?. I really need to do this, because I love my job and trad. sch. is not an option, at least not for nursing courses...would love some feedback....

Thanks,

Minni

Thanks for correcting me . I totally forgot about those states and thought you were talking about the CPNE.

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Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.
There are several states that require precepted clinicals for Excelsior nursing students prior to being able to obtain licensure in that particular state. A few of those states are Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, Kentucky and Washington. Yes, it is up to the student to obtain a clinical site and contract with the hospital facility in order to complete the requirements and be deemed eligible for licensure. Excelsior does not help with the process and students are posting that they are having problems with getting this done.

I agree with you on the license thing.

You are incorrect on KY. I am a KY'ian who got my ASN from EC, and did not have to do precepted clinicals. The KY BON does however require ALL new LPN & RN grads to have so many hours of precepted internship after they graduate. This is not specific to Excelsior.

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Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.
if pa was not to accept it now we would still be accepted since we are already in the program.

** redheadmommy05- this is simply not true. case in point, georgia not licensing excelsior graduates by endorsement or even with 500 hours of experience as an rn working in another state first then endorsing in. every state that has made a stand against excelsior has not made provisions for students who are currently enrolled to become licensed. there are/were no provisions made for the enrolled students or recent graduates in georgia.

this is true -- there are no guarantees. none. but georgia is a little different from many of the other states in which ec rns are currently accepted in that georgia has never allowed direct licensure -- it's always been rather back-door for ec grads in ga, which i suspect made it easier for them to cut ec grads off without much in the way of a warning.

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Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.
I believe Florida stopped accepting Regent's when I still lived there- they grandfathered the nurses who already worked, but would not accept any further. That was about 1996.I don't know if they banned all online.

Florida does accept EC grads who were LPNs. All other EC grads may endorse in with 2 years of RN experience.

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You are incorrect on KY. I am a KY'ian who got my ASN from EC, and did not have to do precepted clinicals. The KY BON does however require ALL new LPN & RN grads to have so many hours of precepted internship after they graduate. This is not specific to Excelsior.

Whether or not specific to Excelsior, the nursing students of Excelsior must still comply as students from traditional programs are required to comply. The point being that the preceptership must be done.

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Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.

According to the istudysmart list of states and their various requirements (which has been fairly accurate, as far as I've seen), EC facilitates the clinicals for EC grads. Can anyone in AZ confirm that? I'd be curious to know why EC could do that in one state, but not others. Then again, that information is NOT from EC, so I'll take it with a grain of salt.

I do know that some Colorado students have had a difficult time finding a place to do a preceptorship. I remember when the Colorado change was made -- it was just before I enrolled with EC, and the Colorado BON was supposedly working on getting something in place for EC grads to get their hours -- but that was more than 2 years ago. :( I do know that EC grads can endorse in with 2,000 hours of experience (1 year, essentially).

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for those worried in pa,

i just contacted the pabon and there are no plans in the near future to drop excelsior. because excelsior is currently approved by the pabon,

"you will be allowed to graduate and test, whether or not that program becomes unapproved during that time. the board would not take that right away mid-stream in your program."

i have been dragging my feet too so this week i paid for 3 exams that i plan on taking before the year is over. :)

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Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.
"you will be allowed to graduate and test, whether or not that program becomes unapproved during that time. The board would not take that right away mid-stream in your program."

Now how is that for being fair? :) Thanks for the info!! (Might want to get it in writing. ;)) And best of luck to you -- get that momentum going, and you'll be done before you know it!

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Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.
Whether or not specific to Excelsior, the nursing students of Excelsior must still comply as students from traditional programs are required to comply. The point being that the preceptership must be done.

This is a paid internship. It appeared that you were suggesting that EC grads would have to jump through additional hoops to gain licensure in KY, which is not true. The internship was made mandatory because new grads weren't getting adequate orientations by the employers in the state. This was implemented to assure proper training of all new nurses.

It's important to note this. There are no issues with EC in KY.

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i really really like excelsior's program but i really really want my rn license to be accepted everywhere if i decide to move.

** redheadmommy05- you are aware that with excelsior this is not possible.

i don't mind the states that require clinical hours like kansas but i hate the fact that some states have banned it all together

** redheadmonny05- there are recent posts on the board that students are having difficulty obtaining clinical sites for states with this requirement as excelsior doesn't assist with the process. you will have to select the site, have a contract agreement with the hospital, obtain insurance, workman's comp, etc. seems like a pain and unecessary cost incurred by you the student, not excelsior.

if pa was not to accept it now we would still be accepted since we are already in the program.

** redheadmommy05- this is simply not true. case in point, georgia not licensing excelsior graduates by endorsement or even with 500 hours of experience as an rn working in another state first then endorsing in. every state that has made a stand against excelsior has not made provisions for students who are currently enrolled to become licensed. there are/were no provisions made for the enrolled students or recent graduates in georgia.

i have not heard anything about the pa bon shutting out excelsior grads

**redheadmommy05- the students/graduates in georgia didn't hear anything in advance about gabon course of action until after (1 month) all was signed and done. just because you don't hear it or read about it on this board doesn't mean that it's not in progress or a possibility.

yes i do know that excelsior is not accepted everywhere as i stated before which is why it is such a hard decision. and furthermore kansas requires excelsior rns to work or show proof of 1000 work hours as a rn in another state before endorsing or clinical (school) hours if a graduate nurse as you stated. meaning if i lived there i could work in kansas city missouri or a surrounding state for 1000 hours until i would be allowed to endorse my license. they would not require me to complete school clinical hours like you are talking about in the above statement if i am already a rn in another state. i know because i called the kansas bon and asked them. if i moved kansas i would be working with the combat stress managment program at the va in topeka which would allow my pa license as soon as i graduate. after working at the va for 1000 hours the kansas bon would endorse my pa license. the only reason it bothers me is because if i want to work prn in a civilian company i would have to get my kansas license eventually.

i also already talked to the pa bon about excelsior several times. they do not plan on implementing anything against excelsior at the present time and those already registered in school are safe from any decisions to lock out nursing programs. ga is different from pa in the fact that even before this decision they did not allow excelsior grads to sit for boards in their own state.

as i said before i love the excelsior program and see absolutely nothing wrong with it. my goals as a nurse may include moving around to different states and although my specific job with the federal government will allow me to work off of any state license i still want the freedom to work for civilian companies and get my license in the states i live in. if that wasn't an issue and i knew i was going to live in pa the rest of my life the decision to choose excelsior would be a no brainer.

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KICK! KICK! KICK! in the Scaredy Pants! Hope this will Get you going in the right direction. You can do this. I had to put this off R/T family deaths last year,and now I am back on track...Get back on track with me. Lets make this happen! Traci

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