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Dear Nursing Instructor,
I want to remind you that at some point in your life you were in my shoes. Remember your first day of class? You were nervous, scared, and maybe wondering "Am I really made for nursing?"
You were handed a syllabus, and quickly went to work planning your schedule for the days to come. The thought of all the chapters you need to read, and understand. "How am I going to process all of this," you thought?
Maybe nursing was a breeze for you. Maybe you failed out and had to give it another try. A year or two later there you are walking across the stage in your nursing uniform holding your candle in remembrance of the mother of nursing Florence Nightingale. Remember how excited you were to get pinned. Oh the tears of joys that you finally made it!
Years have now passed by, and you have decided to become a nurse educator. However you forgot some things. What it is like to be a student. Some students are new to the health field; others are here looking for a second career, or a better life for their family. We all come from different walks of life.
Yes we know and may have heard all the horror stories of nursing. Does nursing school really have to be a horror story? Do you have to yell at your new nursing students on the first day? Is it appropriate to tell your students your not cut out for this? Do you as an instructor have to meet a quota every semester on who you can weed out?
I am a student here to learn. Yes, sometimes some students make it all the way through there preq's thinking "I can fly straight through nursing with no problem." However, some of us are not like that. We want to learn! We want what you have: a state board license!
We have sacrificed our lives and loved ones just to make it to the end of the program. However, some of us don't make it through the first few semesters. As students we do take the blame for our faults and short comings. I know I do. However being manipulated, taunted, yelled at, curse at, and treated like a nobody is not what I signed up for.
Let me give you an example of what some instructors have done in my presence. I had a class mate whose period came on during our lab at the school. We are told that while we are in clinical lab we are not allowed to go to the bathroom, only when we are given break.
She fell ill and told the instructors what was going on. In her defense, she has periods that come when they want, 2 times a month maybe once every 3 months. Nevertheless, she informed said professors on what was going, and got permission to leave the class. She had a mess on her clothes which caused her to leave the class for a second time in 30 mins. She was withdrawn by the Dean because she should have had a Dr.'s note.
I had a similar situation. I heavy a menstruation (due to Essure) sometimes as well, and in my first semester I had an accident as well my clothes. I had to sit for 30 minutes thank goodness before I could leave. All because of that stupid rule. I was embarrassed some, but hey we're all nursing students right. Thank God I lived 5 mins away from school.
My point is: is it really that serious not to have your class interrupted because of an emergency? If that is not an excuse. Please be sympathetic towards your students if deemed necessary, ie. student who found out her father had a heart attack, and is at the hospital fighting for his life. You have now put this student in the position to choose her class time and not risk being dropped from her class, or her dying father. Did you have any unusual emergencies as a student?
As a student we are held responsible for actions. We look to you for guidance and a great learning experience. Why are you so mean? Do you have to eat your young?
Now, now, I'm going to get a lot of comments on how nursing is to be taken seriously. "We have patient lives in our hands". I get that. I have 7 years of healthcare background in a very busy trauma one hospital. I know how stressful nursing can get and how overworked some nurses are, but I'm talking about teaching here. Teaching does not have to be so cruel and intimidating. I'm not saying you have to hold our hands and talk softly, and give us a high five for remembering small or big details. Treat me like a student who wants to learn what you are willing to give.
I just want you ask my instructor, the one I look to for educational needs, to remember what it was like when you were in our shoes.
Respectfully Submitted,
Fearless_Leader
P.S. For the Instructors who do care for their students, and do want them to succeed, we appreciate all you do.
But I like "should of"Sounds snappy ha!!
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!
Who cares!
To go to that much trouble to point out errors in front of others?
Sure sounding like some of those Professors we are discussing. Maybe that is why you don't see how the original post is about abuse!
Grammar matters. Ask any of those highly paid professors that you know, I'm sure they'll agree.
Who tells doctors when they can and can't go to the restroom or take a break?
That's true, the person who is coding does not actually tell the physician "you can't go to the restroom." It's just assumed. Just like the person under anesthesia does not actually tell the surgeon, "hey, sorry you have to pee, but you're just going to have to stay and operate on my open chest."
I guess I believe there is a difference between sitting in lab and performing surgery, or even flying a plane (don't planes have toilets near the cockpit?) - not to mention both professionals are getting paid quite well for the responsibility.
The question was (and I paraphrase)--in what other professions is it acceptable to mandate that someone cannot go to the bathroom when the want? True, students are not being paid...and, if you read my response, I stated that I believe, generally, students should be allowed to leave lab for a bathroom break when they need it.
However, practicing physicians, pilots, lawyers, and, yes, nurses--who are better paid them some airline pilots--are not able to use the bathroom every time an urge hits.
I would say this was more RUDE than blunt! Not sure why this made you so heated. If it is because you don't make a decent salary, I'm sorry.
I have a nursing instructor in my family. She was the director of an ADN program. She had an MSN, yet made less per year than many of her new graduate ADN students did in staff nurse jobs. But you insisted that they are "quite well paid." And I find what you said pretty rude too.
After reading through this thread, I'll go off on a tiny side-step to say that I DO think it's absurd that people who are expected to be treated seriously as COLLEGE students use phrases like "should of" instead of "should have" and then get snippity when it's pointed out.
I see misspellings and erroneous phrasing (not to mention grammar/punctuation that would make an elementary school teacher cringe) quite frequently on this website. Most of the time by students who are wondering why they cannot pass a certain class, cannot pass the NCLEX, and why their grades are poor. Gee....I can take an (educated) guess....
If one wants to be taken seriously as a student who is hoping to enter a profession one day, one must present oneself in that manner. YES, this includes online message forums, as all we can SEE of such students are what they are writing to us. And sometimes, "it sure ain't pretty"!!
oh, and on the 'roflmao' vs smiley' thing? I'm an OLD internet user (like early 90s kind of old, LOL) and we didn't HAVE 'smiley faces'. We had just the text shorthand, just the acronyms, and they really DID stand for exactly what was spelled out (but no one would take the time, naturally).
Twenty-five years ago, if I typed ROFLMAO I really meant "rolling on the floor laughing my ass off"! Or sometimes the more sedate ROTFL. No smiley to be had. We hadn't yet found emoticons (gasp! PRE-emoticon days!!). There WAS no smiley to be inserted, pre-programmed or otherwise. HTML was a newborn baby.
We also had LMAO, LOL (that was Laughing Out Loud, NOT a smiley giving a chuckle), and CWL (Crying from Laughing). Then there's probably my all-time favorite: FOMCROTFLMAO (Falling Off My Chair, Rolling On The Floor, Laughing My Ass Off). Whew, that one was only used with something so insanely funny or ridiculous you just had to use ALL the letters!
Ok, back to snarking at mean instructors and irresponsible students
After reading through this thread, I'll go off on a tiny side-step to say that I DO think it's absurd that people who are expected to be treated seriously as COLLEGE students use phrases like "should of" instead of "should have" and then get snippity when it's pointed out.I see misspellings and erroneous phrasing (not to mention grammar/punctuation that would make an elementary school teacher cringe) quite frequently on this website. Most of the time by students who are wondering why they cannot pass a certain class, cannot pass the NCLEX, and why their grades are poor. Gee....I can take an (educated) guess....
If one wants to be taken seriously as a student who is hoping to enter a profession one day, one must present oneself in that manner. YES, this includes online message forums, as all we can SEE of such students are what they are writing to us. And sometimes, "it sure ain't pretty"!!
Oy! That and the text speak. "Wat did U do to pas the NCLEX? I taken it 4 times an don't no wht I doing wrng" The no text speak rule is part of the TOS, if they can't follow simple instructions AND use basic grammar, well then it's no wonder that the NCLEX is such a hurdle AND I weep for the future.
ok, VERY funny! It's like the winking smiley: I use it to indicate sarcasm, or irony, like that. I was surprised to find that my teen and his friends use it to indicate flirting! As in 'wink wink' flirting. So I can sure see the mixed messages possibilities could be dangerous...!Although I met someone who thinks this stands for "Lots of Love." That lead to an embarrassing texting situation.
tjenn999
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Oh that was not abuse! I think you sounded "similar" to those Professors who humiliate people. I am not around you to know if your abusive. Many do have that critical nature though. Many will down play abuse when the see it too. Question? Does it make you feel superior when you correct peoples grammar? Do you feel better when your writing is above average and so intelligent "sounding"
If you do, maybe you should look into why you do that. If not, your ok.
Some people have Dyslexia, or can't spell. Did you know these same people have very high IQ's? Grammar , spelling and writing is not their gift. Their gifts you can't learn. Steven Spielberg is dyslexic and writes terrible. Albert Einstein too. We all know how brilliant he is. I could write a whole page of amazing people who can't write well. While your making sure your grammar is correct during documentation, the dyslexic is in a room calling a code because their intuition told them there was something not right about their patient. People gifts comes in many forms. I am an artist. That is one of my gifts. When I see others create their art, I do not go around and tell them it's wrong. It is not their gift. I wouldn't do that. That would be embarrassing for that person. Your gift is obviously grammar. Before you correct me on the difference of art and grammar being completely different. (Apples and oranges) don't get too hung on that. Just an example. It's early so maybe not the most brilliant one. You were getting ready to do a whole page of how art is different than grammar Huh? That was suppose to be a little funny. Here is my point incased you missed it. Some people are good at different things and that is ok. Unless you are my Professor, it shouldn't really matter to you.
However, if you were my Professor and I gave you a paper then yes, please correct my grammar and be as strict as you can. I spend way more time on my papers and resumes than I do here. Again, this is an informal setting where Our identities are encouraged to be hidden. So no one is going to look on here and see my "should haves" and not hire me. Please!
There are many dyslexics out here. Dyslexics weak term memory keep them from remembering things that don't have a concept attached to it. We also have people who's English is a second language who should be able to write freely on here without being attacked. So tread wisely when you go around and police the grammar on this forum.
My pet peeve? Pointing out peoples mistakes in front of others and trying to embarrass or humiliate them.
I should have had not writton this much. My digits are tired.
Having a little fun too! Another gift of mine is a wonderful sense of humor! LMAOROTFPMP
"Laughing my *** off rolling on the floor peeing my pants" my computer on my iphone that has a keyboard did that.
Come on!! That was funny!! Yeh? No?
Ok maybe not! I tried though.