90 day termination agreement

[goback]

Hi everyone,

I recently started a job in an outpatient clinic. We have 2 docs and 4 nurses. I started on Nov. 13 and was told my paperwork would be given to me at a later date. On Nov. 29 I signed the usual paperwork, confidentiality, HIPPA, etc. I was then presented with a 90 day termination agreement. This paper stated when and if I decide to quit that I will give them a 90 day notice. If I leave before the 90 days I will be expected to pay my daily salary to them, with any other costs they may incur in training the new individual or overtime pay to the nurses that remain. I told them I would think about this before signing. I decided not to sign the agreement, what other employer will hold my new position for 3 months? On Jan. 4 they told me to sign it for 60 days or my employment would be terminated. I did not agree with that many days. That was on Jan. 9 so, I told them I would be done in 2 weeks. They then asked if I would stay to help train the new employee. No, thank-you. I told them that this agreement should of been presented to me before I ever started my employment. In which they admitted that I slipped through the crack. The nurse that left ahead of me never signed either, she got out and found another postion.

I just wanted your thoughts! I feel bad that I am losing my job, but I am proud of myself for holding my ground.

Thank-You,

Kathy

[snowfreeze, BSN, RN]

My thoughts are I am so relieved for you. Glad you got out before that place had the shackles welded in place.

[goback]

Thank-You snowfreeze. I see that you have been in nursing for 15 years, have you ever heard of this for nurses? I worked in a clinic for almost 15 years prior to this mess and if the employer treats the employee with respect, there is not a turn-over problem.

[fultzymom]

I agree with you. There is no way I would have signed a 60 or 90 day agreement. Good for you for standing your ground. And who in their right mind would sign something saying they would pay all that money? Do people really sign things like that?!

[Music in My Heart]

I have never heard of anything so ridiculous. There is no way that I would agree to something like that unless they were offering something substantial in return like a guaranteed term of employment, guaranteed severance, guaranteed training and advancement opportunities, and high-end wages/benefits. Otherwise, no freaking way.

They should be ashamed of themselves for trying to lay that on you after you'd already accepted an offer and begun working.

I really am stunned at the audacity of an employer making such a demand. Really, stunned.

[nuangel1, BSN, RN]

i agree thats nuts.i would never have signed a 60 0r 90 day agreement.most places 2-3 weeks notice is fine.

[PMHNP10]

Hi everyone,

I recently started a job in an outpatient clinic. We have 2 docs and 4 nurses. I started on Nov. 13 and was told my paperwork would be given to me at a later date. On Nov. 29 I signed the usual paperwork, confidentiality, HIPPA, etc. I was then presented with a 90 day termination agreement. This paper stated when and if I decide to quit that I will give them a 90 day notice. If I leave before the 90 days I will be expected to pay my daily salary to them, with any other costs they may incur in training the new individual or overtime pay to the nurses that remain. I told them I would think about this before signing. I decided not to sign the agreement, what other employer will hold my new position for 3 months? On Jan. 4 they told me to sign it for 60 days or my employment would be terminated. I did not agree with that many days. That was on Jan. 9 so, I told them I would be done in 2 weeks. They then asked if I would stay to help train the new employee. No, thank-you. I told them that this agreement should of been presented to me before I ever started my employment. In which they admitted that I slipped through the crack. The nurse that left ahead of me never signed either, she got out and found another postion.

I just wanted your thoughts! I feel bad that I am losing my job, but I am proud of myself for holding my ground.

Thank-You,

Kathy

so they hire you, orient you for about 2 weeks, THEN they present you with this paper. They say you "slipped through the crack" but yet the same thing happened to the previous nurse. Furthermore, they tried to negotiate a deal with you? What's that smell???

Surely that's an illegal practice like bait and switch???

I wonder if their other 3 nurses signed the paperwork or if they started this new policy months or years after hire?

[Kyrshamarks, BSN, RN]

That is a non enforceable contract. If they tried to have a court enforce that contract they would get it thrown out. That is lie a non compete contrat which in all but a few very small and narrow fields are non enforceable.

[Banyan]

Have been lurking only as I'm a CMA, not nurse but THIS post prompted me to join! I mean, really...Was this Candid Camera? Or perhaps Dwight Shrewt was running this clinic! (sorry, inside joke for The Office fans)

I did temp work for a specialist whose wife ran the office. She would try something like this. Run Goback! (No-don't go back. Never look back!)

[goback]

The other 3 nurses did sign the contract. One signed for 120 days, the other 2 for 45 days. These nurses will be leaving when the oldest Dr. retires in 2 years. This company bought the clinic from the oldest physician 6 months ago.

[P_RN, ADN, RN]

That's a bunch of hooey. Where is this magic kingdom? The Wizard of Id writes their manual? Get outta town and don't let the door hit you in the backside on the way out.

[EmmaG, RN]

That's just craziness.

I'm not so sure it would be unenforceable, though. If someone were nuts enough to sign something like that, they'd probably get held to it.

Once the judge stopped laughing, that is.