Ctr Nsg Advocacy: Nurses upset over Univ of Alberta medical students "Medshow"

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strangeways, here we come: university of alberta medical students have something important to say about nurses--especially their breasts!

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july 8, 2005 -- the edmonton journal published a fair piece by jodie sinnema on may 19 about the recent controversy surrounding the lyrics of a "nurses' song" performed by university of alberta medical students at their annual "medshow." it seems that nursing professors, the university provost, and even the medical school dean found something objectionable about the song's assertions that nurses were "wh*res" and "b*tches" whose "incompetence" threatened to "make our patients die." but at least the medical students felt nurses were qualified to "fill up my coffeepot" and "give good head," and the refrain urged nurses to "show me those boobs." the song seems to reflect virulent misogyny, ignorance of nursing, and professional insecurity, a perfect storm of dysfunction that persists in many clinical settings, harming patients and contributing to nursing burnout and the global nursing shortage. to the extent the song and the medical students' apparent non-apology are indicators of their career trajectory, it's bad news for patients and colleagues. but the students' conduct does suggest that the business outlook may be good for local malpractice and personal injury lawyers--and possibly even those who work in the criminal justice system!

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Never have gotten one back.

Never have gotten one back.

IMHO, you didn't miss much. I'll post it here...

" I share your concerns about the MedShow 2005, and I have conveyed my

profound disappointment to the participants. I want to assure you, first

of all, that the inappropriate skit does not reflect a widespread

disrespect for the nursing profession, but rather a poor decision by a

small group of students. Their actions are inconsistent with our

University values. Indeed, our curriculum increasingly reflects an

emphasis on teamwork within the health professions and a respect for

other knowledge sets.

I have discussed the matter with our Vice-President (Academic) Carl

Amrhein, and we agree we will not tolerate such abuse of privilege.

Graduates of the University of Alberta Faculty of Medicine must adhere

to the university's values of respect and tolerance.

Accordingly, I have discussed this matter in depth with the students

involved, and they have written to the Dean of Nursing. I have also

agreed with the Dean of Nursing that in the fall, nursing students will

speak to our medical class to ensure they fully understand the impact of

this type of behavour.

Sincerely,

Thomas Marrie

Dean, Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry

Thomas J. Marrie

Dean

Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry

2J2.01 Walter C. Mackenzie Health Sciences Center

8440-112 Street

Edmonton, AB, T6G 2R7

[email protected]

780-492-9728

780-4927303 fax "

Just a canned response...

Specializes in Rodeo Nursing (Neuro).

Got the same reply. At least we know they got our e-mails. Whether they read them remains to be seen.

The docs I've seen do not behave like this. At least in public.

Got the same reply. At least we know they got our e-mails. Whether they read them remains to be seen.

The docs I've seen do not behave like this. At least in public.

I've worked with some pretty ignorant MD's in my time, but nothing like this. This is hitting a new low, IMHO.

I understand that 60% of the medical class involved is female, and females were involved in the singing of the song. The med students also defend their actions by stating that the song about doctors was just as bad (claims of dropping babies, etc). Still, there was no tact in in this and I'm very surprised that ANYONE would attempt to sing these lyrics in public.

Have a look at the July 15th entry:

http://fidius.blogspot.com/

I'm not at all shocked that something like this happened. Things like this make me seriously question my career choice, as I do not want to be subjected to this kind of disrespect. Nurses do not recieve enough credit for their education and intellect.

I actually read the article that was written about this event. Somebody posted (on the news website) that nurses are just a hypersensitive special interest group and that this was only a joke. :angryfire A joke? Even some of the most regressive, sexist men I know would think this was crossing the line.

This is exactly the kind of behavior that alienates nurses and drives the nursing shortage! If everyone (besides nurses) is so deeply concerned about the global nursing shortage, why is this kind of thing still tolerated? This "concern" is ultimately a bunch of lipservice!

If this song were directed towards a racial or religious group, it would be prosecutable!!!

If this song were directed towards a racial or religious group, it would be prosecutable!!!

Oh yeah, big time.

These students only pulled this stunt because they knew they could get away with it. As far as I know, there will be no far-reaching consequences for those involved. (i.e., something going on their academic permanent records, which sounds reasonable if you ask me!) Of course, this only tells future students that while some people may get upset, this type of behavior is really okay, and that they may freely engage in it without worrying about any major consequences.

By the way, the fact that the Dean of Medicine refuses to discipline these students in any meaningful way speaks volumes about him AND the university.

I guess we can thank Arnie the Guvernator for dubbing nurses a 'special interest group'.

The idea that the female student docs took part in this just makes me want to vomit.

I would love to see women's groups picketing this college....any feminists up in those parts up to organizing this?? I might even fly up to take part....

I guess we can thank Arnie the Guvernator for dubbing nurses a 'special interest group'.

The idea that the female student docs took part in this just makes me want to vomit.

I would love to see women's groups picketing this college....any feminists up in those parts up to organizing this?? I might even fly up to take part....

From a Canadian perspective, a little east of Alberta, this issue seems to be meeting with mostly apathy. It bugs me that the RN's that I work with are more concerned about their coffee breaks.

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These students only pulled this stunt because they knew they could get away with it. As far as I know, there will be no far-reaching consequences for those involved. (i.e., something going on their academic permanent records, which sounds reasonable if you ask me!) Of course, this only tells future students that while some people may get upset, this type of behavior is really okay, and that they may freely engage in it without worrying about any major consequences.

By the way, the fact that the Dean of Medicine refuses to discipline these students in any meaningful way speaks volumes about him AND the university.

and there you have it; the crux of a huge problem with the lack of respect for nurses everywhere.
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Keep writing those letters.

And thank you Karen for calling this to our attention. :)

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