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Over the last couple of years I have donated to 2 crowd-funding appeals. Both were folks that I (somewhat) knew and both were for dire, life-altering reasons.
Lately, these types of "give me $$" appeals seem to be multiplying like crazy. Folks are asking for money for any and everything. I saw one on Facebook recently that was asking strangers to pay her entire way through nursing school
I don't know why this bothers me. Maybe it's the unspoken assumption that if I've worked my way into a position in life where I might have a few bucks to spare, I'd be happy to part with that money to help someone else not have to work as hard as I did. Obviously, I don't have to pay any attention to the appeals if I don't want to. It just seems so......nervy, I guess. As in, it takes a lot of.
What does everyone else think?
While I understand the desire for inexpensive, good-quality training, be careful not to romanticize it. Those schools allowed students no life to speak of outside of nursing. Therefore it's pretty much a no-go for non-traditional students or for those with families. As I understand it, students worked crazy hours/shifts for no pay, thus the "free" training.
That may have been in the 1960 to early 1970's at the most.
I came out of the system in 1982 and that was not how my diploma program was run.
I and my cotemporaries were not used as 'staff'- we had lots of clinical but the instructor was there.
We were turned 'loose' to work independently as a 'staff nurse' for January of our senior year to experience what real life nursing was like.
We partied frequently. People got married, had babies, were divorced and unwed parents in our school system.
So, where you got your information from I don't know.
I lived the experience.
I've seen a couple people here talk about how giving money to street beggars is a good thing. This is a misconception. Don't enable! Please instead give to a charity/food bank/etc.
That may have been in the 1960 to early 1970's at the most.I came out of the system in 1982 and that was not how my diploma program was run.
I and my cotemporaries were not used as 'staff'- we had lots of clinical but the instructor was there.
We were turned 'loose' to work independently as a 'staff nurse' for January of our senior year to experience what real life nursing was like.
We partied frequently. People got married, had babies, were divorced and unwed parents in our school system.
So, where you got your information from I don't know.
I lived the experience.
Did you pay tuition for this program?
My reference was to the diploma programs prior to yours, where very few expenses/tuition payments were required.
I've worked with several grads of the earlier diploma programs as described, and I stand by those descriptions. Your dismissal of my post is irrelevant, since you addressed a different era/program.
A question was posed and we are all free to respond, so long as the response is respectful. Some of you feel that people (myself included) are being judgmental. When you're asking for crowd funding for non- essentials, expect to receive some negative feedback.
Many of us have struggled with finances and not resorted to crowd funding. Take a semester off and work. Plan a budget ahead of time. Request government aid. There are options aside from appealing to strangers.
Did you pay tuition for this program?My reference was to the diploma programs prior to yours, where very few expenses/tuition payments were required.
I've worked with several grads of the earlier diploma programs as described, and I stand by those descriptions. Your dismissal of my post is irrelevant, since you addressed a different era/program.
You did not initially state a time frame but I did.
It makes quite a difference in the discussion.
When you're asking for crowd funding for non- essentials, expect to receive some negative feedback.Many of us have struggled with finances and not resorted to crowd funding. Take a semester off and work. Plan a budget ahead of time. Request government aid. There are options aside from appealing to strangers.
when you criticize others for not doing things exactly the way YOU would, expect to receive some negative feedback.
when you criticize others for not doing things exactly the way YOU would, expect to receive some negative feedback.
If someone wants to give negative feedback to those of who behave responsibly, work hard, budget, and decline to beg on the 'net, go for it.
I was a skinny homely nerd in high school. I have been insulted by the best, the worst and everything in between. And I'm still alive and responsible..... And many of those that insulted me are bankrupt or in jail.
Nay...
I worked full time and supported myself through both of my degrees, bought my own condo, my own vehicle, etc... I worked hard for what I do have. Why should I work hard so someone else can get a free ride instead of earning what they want?!
A friend recently showed me his friends "Go Fund Me" page because he was asking people to donate money towards a down payment so he can buy a house! I wanted to write go work two jobs like the rest of us and earn it yourself!!!!! Nothing like the newer lazier generations we have, no work ethic at all!
I will not enable someone to be lazy, especially since here I am working about 70-80 hours a week so that I can pay for my RN-BSN as I go and still afford other bills.
Not happening.
FYI people before you donate to things like the Wounded Warrior Project and the Susan G Koman Foundation check out how much the CEOs of these charities make!!
Donate your money to a local animal shelter.... or keep it. Those big charities blow so much money on paying their higher ups and on advertisements! I am a member of the NRA, but will not donate any money to them because I get mail from them just about every day asking for more money, if they stopped mailing crap every other day to people they wouldn't need all that extra money!!
HPRN
If someone is crowd funding for school, rather than applying for aide, I would hope that they cut out non essentials such as cable tv, eating out, and extra cell phones at least.The problem is, we have no idea just how the recipient is living which is why, unless it's a registered charity, I would not donate.
...or god forbid applying for all the free money for school that is out there ie. Scholarships! Doubtful that they are, young people want things just handed to them!
HPRN
While I understand the desire for inexpensive, good-quality training, be careful not to romanticize it. Those schools allowed students no life to speak of outside of nursing. Therefore it's pretty much a no-go for non-traditional students or for those with families. As I understand it, students worked crazy hours/shifts for no pay, thus the "free" training.
Sorry! I didn't mean for my post to come off as trying to "romanticize" my mother's and my Aunt's Nursing education.
Their training was brutal.
Their education was not inexpensive.....it was free! The Hospital picked up every cost. And you are absolutely right! Hospital-based Nursing training was extremely restrictive. They lived in dorms, ate in dorm-style cafeterias and needed permission to come and go. But, the program was always full and they recieved better training than most Nursing programs today, IMO.
That style of education is definitely not for everyone. I'm pretty sure most people on this board would hate it. Personally, I would have loved it. I wish that style of training had been an option for me when I was young, single and broke. No student loans, no housing costs, no crazy part-time job hours and hands-on training every day.
I would have loved it.
roser13, ASN, RN
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While I understand the desire for inexpensive, good-quality training, be careful not to romanticize it. Those schools allowed students no life to speak of outside of nursing. Therefore it's pretty much a no-go for non-traditional students or for those with families. As I understand it, students worked crazy hours/shifts for no pay, thus the "free" training.