CRNE exam OCTOBER 8, 2008

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Specializes in meg/surg, pediatric, wound care.

Hi, Susan

From school, we reviewed theories such as communication and conflict resolution. we also did a lot of case studies on what nurses would do during ethical case scenarios using the best practice guidlines from CNO (e.g. what a nurses would respond to clients who refuses treatment )

I would encourage you to study the code of ethics and best practice guideline from the provincial association. I think those kind of help with my studying for the psychosocial questions and gave me an idea on what they are looking for in the answer ( for example, values such as respect and client needs). I hope this will help with your studying!

Good luck with your studying!!

P.S. o i used the arnolds & Boggs 's interpersonal relationship from school.. dont know if that will help

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I wrote the october CRNE exam. No doubt it was really tough. I think the people who prepared the questions worked harder than the people who wrote the exam because the questions were too tricky and confusing. A very few number of nurses are working in the community health nursing then i dont know they why they are asking so much community health based questions. There were not many questions from the medical surgical nursing.I dont think the crne exam is really testing nurses knowledge or capabilities to work as a nurse and i think these kind of questions is not relevant to the real practice. (except a couple of questions were checking your knowledge.) There is no real good stragegy for the exam, any way we have to face it. Wait and see. Good Luch for all. God Bless you.

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Hi ,we all have the same opinion but I think there is a book or more ,a site or more ,where are the answers.Somebody said that almost every canadian student uses Potter &Perry.Few days after exam I said that it is time to start studying again so I borrowed that Potter & Perry.I almost finished the part about community ,comunication but I still do not have the answers at the questions from the exam(those that are not forgotten yet).There must be something else.I would ask those who think that they did better this time,to give their opinion,to give advice about what books they think that were helpful.Maybe there is something logical in the exam but we do not see because we did not read the right book.

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tonson...i feel the same way as you...like i said in my other posts...this was my 2nd time writing..and i'm not sure that i passed...i have been very negative..and emotional about this exam...but there is still hope in me. you don't know that you failed for sure yet...so dont give up hope...how do you know that what you used to study for this exam didnt work for you...without knowing your results? give yourself a few more weeks and see if you passed or not before you make up your mind. keep your fingers crossed and i hope that we all passed

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

I hate hearing about how difficult the CRNE was, how tricky and seemingly pointless the questions were and how convinced you all are that you didn't pass. It didn't used to be that way. When I wrote, many years ago when it was called the CNATS exam, the questions were clinically important, the knowledge tested very appropriate for the work we'd be doing and much more like the NCLEX. In fact, I used an NCLEX study guide and passed with 651 questions correct out of 700. But things have really changed. The biggest contributor to this change is the change in focus of nursing education from clinical to academic. When the Canadian Nurses' Association started lobbying for the minimum educational requirement for entry-to-practice being the Baccalaureate degree in the mid 90's, the slide toward circumstances as they are now began. The aim of university nursing programs historically was to educate managers and community health personnel, so that's the way the exam evolved. If one examines the content of nursing education syllabi in Canada these days, one would see that the emphasis above all is academic, the courses structured to provide a strong background in report writing, crucial conversations, research and management skills. The nursing has been taken out of nursing education here. Clinical skills have taken a backseat to the APA format and letter-perfect papers on issues and trends in nursing, which nobody truly understands. Nursing faculty at universities may never have put on a uniform and provided direct care to a single patient even once in their long and illustrious careers so they have no clue what reality is or how to teach it. They leave that work to the clinical instructors they hire at local hospitals. When a graduate of a university nursing program starts a career never having had a patient load of more than two, and never having to actually do the entire job of caring for even those two, it's no wonder they're overwhelmed and unprepared.

It's been said on other threads that there really is no good way to study for the CRNE and I'm afraid that's probably true. The best one can do is use the CNA study guide and work through as many practice exam questions as one can find. At least then there's a tiny sense of familiarity with the types of questions, the way they're worded and what the expected answers are.

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Specializes in meg/surg, pediatric, wound care.

i think most answers for community nursing questions,are in the stamler and yiu 's community health nursing book.

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Specializes in med/surg.

Jan you are soooooooo right! The same is happening in the UK - soon they'll be turning out nurses who have no clue as to what to do when it comes to looking after a real patient! Tell a lie - they already are!

Never mind at least we'll all be able to hold our pts hands & say nice things like "tell me more about how you fel about this....." as they drift into V-TACH!!

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

I love it!! But guess what? We have at least a dozen nurses who don't recognize PVCs at all in our pediatric cardiac ICU... Think that's a problem?

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Specializes in Geriatrics, Med-Surg..

As a relatively new grad RPN and likely to return for RN, I couldn't agree more that less class work and more clinical time is just what is needed. Certainly by the end of the last term, before consolidation, all RN and RPN students should be taking on a full patient load, however this just doesn't happen.

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Specializes in oncology, acute rehab.
... soon they'll be turning out nurses who have no clue as to what to do when it comes to looking after a real patient! Tell a lie - they already are!

Personal experience has taught me that nursing school is one thing and the job of nursing is another. It's unrealistic that any new grad RN is ready to function independently or perform as well in every situation as an experienced RN. This is why we have, or should have, new grad residencies/internships with ongoing preceptor/mentor relationships to develop and encourage the beginning nurse for at least two years.There should be additional pay for the experienced nurses offering this leadership while also fulfilling their own job duties.

If a nursing program is truly producing unsafe graduates, perhaps the accreditation process needs to be reviewed. If we can move toward "universality" of nursing education, board exams such as CRNE (Oct '08) can truly be used to test all candidates' readiness for licensure.

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personally i did take on a full patient load during my final placement. i liked doing that; however, i felt taken advantage of. my preceptor basically dumped everything on me. she made me feel like i was extra help more than actually teaching me a lot of the skills or ways of doing things on the unit. i mean there is a difference between teaching your students responsibility and then making them do tasks that you personally dont want to do! i went from a full 1 1/2 year of community nursing in school to acute care...so i was clueless!! so i didn't have a lot of the knowledge that you would require on an acute floor...but neither did she! so thats why it makes me wonder if the nurses that are working out there...really have the knowledge to be competent...or did they just pass the exam out of luck? thats why i think that the crne isnt a good way of indicating who is capable of being a good nurse and who isnt.

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The on-line practice exam is a lot easier than the actual crne.

Tomorrow will be the 4th week since our exam. I think i read somewhere that the results will be out between 4 to 8 weeks. Or am i dreaming?

Would CNO have the results before we do? I hope the results come soon. Feels like my entire life is on hold until then.

Anyone know how they arrive at the passing score? Do they vote on it? I hope they take into consideration that this exam was really difficult.

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