Multiple vaccine incentives are now being offered to those getting vaccinated this month to meet the CDC/President Biden's goal of 70% adult vaccination by July 4th, 2021.
Those vaccinated at CVS pharmacy or by CVS pharmacist @ covid clinic/ SNF, can enter to win numerous prizes -- including Feb. 2022 Super Bowl Trip! Of course, they weren't permitted to give vaccine yet to general public when I or sons vaccinated in PA --so I'll try their mail-in address per website. Will need to find a Krispy Creame for my free doughnut (damm the diet)!
Arkansas: lottery tickets and gift certificates for hunting and fishing licenses
California: $1.5 million each for 10 Californians; $50 gift cards either for general use or for specific grocery stores to the next 2 million people who get shots started May 27th, 21
Delaware: $5,000 in cash and additional prizes in twice-weekly drawings conducted by the Delaware Lottery
West Virginia: college scholarship, a Ford F-150 pickup truck, custom hunting rifles and shotguns, or cash rewards with a grand prize of $1.58 million and a second-place award of $588,00
Washington: Four residents - $250,000 plus one winner — $1 million.
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26 minutes ago, Feelgood RN said:
Wish I lived in West Virginia. I literally told someone the other day I'd get the vaccine if they gave me a Desert Eagle .50. Guess we'll see how far that goes! ?
Back to the original question "What do nurses think of these incentives???"
I don't see anything wrong with offering incentives to encourage people to do what is in their best interest and the best interest of their community.
Years ago my employer offered incentives to employees to improve their health. It started small.
Each year they added ways to the earn the incentive and increased the monetary value of the incentive.
They eventually offered a way to earn points for each healthy activity (pap, colonoscopy, dental cleaning, PSA, vaccination, nutrition and healthy eating class, hour of exercise, mammogram, smoking cessation class, stress management class, etc.) If you earned enough points one year, you got $165/month off your insurance premium the next year. That got me. I was already doing a lot of healthy things, but I could do better. When I was too tired to go work out, I would think of the $1980/year I was going to save on insurance. I'd go exercise.
An added bonus was these good behaviors became habits. When I changed jobs, I kept the good habits even though I wasn't getting a monetary benefit any more.
These incentives aren't going to cause someone to do something they are strongly opposed to. They will nudge people who "can't find time" or who are on the fence to do something good for themselves and others.
I have mixed feelings about this. First of all I think it’s kind of ironic to offer people alcoholic beverages and junk food when attempting to promote public health.
17 hours ago, ddeburger said:
Correct, but let’s figure out why. Could it be that we have a high rate of obese citizens in this country compared to other countries. We all know what obesity does to a body (or should) and how Covid affects someone that is already obese. Now we’re offering junk food on top of it to entice people to get this vaccine? Get real!
I think I’ve already posted what I think of offering junk food as an incentive.
Obesity is one risk factor for a serious Covid outcome. I think that researchers of various disciplines will be kept busy for quite some time trying to figure out why some countries have been affected worse than others and which strategy to combat the effects of the pandemic is the most effective. One thing we can likely be sure of is that there are many different factors in play.
People should get the vaccine because they want it, and people should have the right to not get it without being stigmatized and shamed. There's more shaming for not getting this vaccine than there was before a vax and people refused to wear masks at the height of the pandemic. Why? What about the people who can't get vaxxed because it's contraindicated? What about the people who got vaxxed and still got sick because it's lost effectiveness or there was a different strain?
agree 100 percent.
incentives do work to some degree, so let them offer the darn incentives
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On 6/6/2021 at 4:01 PM, NurseBlaq said:
I'm uneasy about vaccines being monetized. They didn't do this when parents were gung ho about not vaccinating their children resulting in a resurgence of thought to be eradicated diseases/viruses. What makes this one so special? There's just something not sitting right about this. We've seen this before in history and here it is repeating itself. If they're so sure of these vaccines, why make it so the companies can't be held liable for future issues if they arise? I'm not comfortable with throwing money at people desperate enough to not think things through for a little bit of money.
Not to mention, if they had this money to throw at people all along why wasn't it used to help people when things were shut down? All I see are companies who held out when people needed it the most and are now using it as bargaining tools to control people. People should get the vaccine because they want it, and people should have the right to not get it without being stigmatized and shamed. There's more shaming for not getting this vaccine than there was before a vax and people refused to wear masks at the height of the pandemic. Why? What about the people who can't get vaxxed because it's contraindicated? What about the people who got vaxxed and still got sick because it's lost effectiveness or there was a different strain?
There are far more questions than answers and yet people out here allowing greed to supersede any logical thought out of desperation. I don't like it.
Yes to all of this!
On 6/5/2021 at 5:46 AM, macawake said:
I have mixed feelings about this. First of all I think it’s kind of ironic to offer people alcoholic beverages and junk food when attempting to promote public health.
Having to pay/bribe people to do something that is in theirown best interest and helps keep the society that theyareapart of safer for all, to me just reflects poorly on the human race. There is also the risk that some people might wonder if there are hidden risks or a hidden agenda when the authorities resort to bribing them to do something they wouldn’t have done otherwise. I just wish we had an educated populace instead who got the vaccines because they understood that it’s the best choice, both for them and the people around them. I wish that people would trust science and actually give a crap about other people who they share this planet with. And yes, I do realize that I do sound extremely elitist and more than a tad condescending. But still, it’s how I feel.
But at the end of the day, I’m a pragmatist. If this helps increase vaccine uptake, the end result will benefit us all.
I’d be shocked if this were to happen in my own country, but it appears that several other countries have chosen the same route.
(MODERATOR EDIT) Why is it beyond your comprehension that someone could weigh the evidence (from the CDC & the vaccine companies themselves) and make their own personal decision about risk vs the benefit of the vaccine & Covid & choose not to get the vaccine? Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are not educated.
(MODERATOR EDIT) Why is it beyond your comprehension that someone could weigh the evidence (from the CDC & the vaccine companies themselves) and make their own personal decision about risk vs the benefit of the vaccine & Covid & choose not to get the vaccine? Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are not educated.
There's an important difference between considering the facts and applying your own personal values, priorities, etc and misrepresenting the facts about Covid and the vaccines.
Whether a Covid infection poses a higher risk of death or severe illness than the vaccines do is not an opinion. To use the risk of thromboembolic events as an example, it's not an opinion whether 12% is a larger number than .0000002%.
I may have a different view than someone who acknowledges that getting beyond Covid without widespread vaccines will take many years and millions of lives but that they like living in a Covid world and they want people to die, but I can't argue with their grasp of the facts.
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On 6/12/2021 at 5:32 PM, love2banurse89 said:
Yes to all of this!
(MODERATOR EDIT) Why is it beyond your comprehension that someone could weigh the evidence (from the CDC & the vaccine companies themselves) and make their own personal decision about risk vs the benefit of the vaccine & Covid & choose not to get the vaccine? Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are not educated.
Because the evidence to support getting the vaccine is enormous and credible and the evidence to support not getting vaccinated is comparatively small and not credible. If you were a gambler your money would be with the odds and odds are that vaccination is the way out of this pandemic in the short term.
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On 6/12/2021 at 6:21 PM, toomuchbaloney said:
Because the evidence to support getting the vaccine is enormous and credible and the evidence to support not getting vaccinated is comparatively small and not credible. If you were a gambler your money would be with the odds and odds are that vaccination is the way out of this pandemic in the short term.
(MODERATOR EDIT) Because after researching the vaccine & considering info from the CDC, NIH & the vaccine sites & their research reports, I decided that I will wait. Why can’t you comprehend that we can have different opinions from the same information? Why can’t you comprehend and respect that a different opinion is OK?
(MODERATOR EDIT) Because after researching the vaccine & considering info from the CDC, NIH & the vaccine sites & their research reports, I decided that I will wait. Why can’t you comprehend that we can have different opinions from the same information? Why can’t you comprehend and respect that a different opinion is OK?
If you've looked at the data and evidence and concluded that the vaccine poses a greater risk to you than Covid then that's not an 'opinion'.
Whether the little dots in the night sky are stars and other celestial bodies is a fact, whether they are pretty is an opinion.
Again if you're deciding to wait because you think prolonging Covid-19 is good for society or that we'd be better off with a few million less people on earth then I can't argue with your understanding of the facts, I would just disagree with your opinion.
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1 hour ago, MunoRN said:
There's an important difference between considering the facts and applying your own personal values, priorities, etc and misrepresenting the facts about Covid and the vaccines.
Whether a Covid infection poses a higher risk of death or severe illness than the vaccines do is not an opinion. To use the risk of thromboembolic events as an example, it's not an opinion whether 12% is a larger number than .0000002%.
I may have a different view than someone who acknowledges that getting beyond Covid without widespread vaccines will take many years and millions of lives but that they like living in a Covid world and they want people to die, but I can't argue with their grasp of the facts.
Seriously, you’re saying that because I CHOOSE not to get vaccinated (believe me, I’ve considered the risk of the illness and I’m willing to take the risk rather than get vaccinated) I “like living in a COVID world”?
I’m the infection control nurse in a long term care facility & the Covid world sucks. And you know what? The residents who CHOSE to get vaccinated were fully vaccinated by Feb. and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING changed regarding visitors, going out, dining & activities until MAY. Even if we get 100% vaccinated, things will not get back to normal. There’s way too much money to be made by the people who make the tests & have made the vaccines. we will be “living in a COVIDworld” for a long time.
Seriously, you’re saying that because I CHOOSE not to get vaccinated (believe me, I’ve considered the risk of the illness and I’m willing to take the risk rather than get vaccinated) I “like living in a COVID world”?
I’m the infection control nurse in a long term care facility & the Covid world sucks. And you know what? The residents who CHOSE to get vaccinated were fully vaccinated by Feb. and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING changed regarding visitors, going out, dining & activities until MAY. Even if we get 100% vaccinated, things will not get back to normal. There’s way too much money to be made by the people who make the tests & have made the vaccines. we will be “living in a COVIDworld” for a long time.
I would agree, it could be frustrating if for some reason you were under the impression that all mitigation measures would end after only about 1% of US population was vaccinated, which is where we were in February. And I could see how someone in the general public might have had that misunderstanding, but not someone who claims to be a facility's infection control nurse, that's disturbing.
Vaccines aren't 100% effective (not that they need to be) particularly in those of advanced age or with chronic health conditions that make it less likely the immune response will be strong enough to impart strong T-cell immunity. In addition to being vaccinated themselves, residents of long term care facilities rely on the staff and visitors of the facility being vaccinated, since that greatly reduces the chance they will spread Covid to them.
The basic premise behind vaccines in these scenarios is that once we reach a certain threshold, typically understood to be at least 70% of the population, then that prevents the ability of the virus to spread through a chain of contacts, effectively snuffing out the epidemic with the exception of isolated, rare cases, that's how we get back to 'normal', allowing for a steady-state spread due to poor vaccination levels is what keeps things how they are.
What's this I hear? Houston hospital employees lawsuit thrown out because they compare getting the vaccine mandatorily to Nazi experiments?
They should be sacked! If you don't believe in the science, why are you working in a scientific environment? What other voodoo practices do they believe in?
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Why can't you move to West Virginia?