It's only fair to point out that Biden is also racist AF. (AF= as ... can't be mentioned on AN, because we're nurses and we don't swear, ever).
The Omicron variant has so far been detected in South Africa, Botswana, Israel, Belgium, Hong Kong, UK, Germany, Italy, and Czechia. But of those countries the US has implemented travel bans on only two of those countries; South Africa and Botswana. In addition to those two, travel bans have been enacted for eSwatini, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Namibia, and Zimbabwe, even though no cases of Omicron have been detected there.
So, our lengthy and contentious discussion started with you getting your feathers ruffled because I said people have stopped listening to Fauci.
Now, after all that you admit you haven't followed his guidance on getting a booster. But, instead of assessed your own risk and have not decided it was necessary at this time.
Amazing.
Isn't this what other people have done? Ohh. Is this one of the fabled hypocrisy that I've been imagining?
Anyone want me to cite a double standard? Well apparently TMB has decided what is best for him based on his own unique experience and situation? However has chastised others throughout these threads for the same? What's the difference? Political party maybe?
They want roof of hypocrisy and double standard, well here it is.
Again...are you asserting that I simply chose not to vaccinate and I was only allowed a 4 week window to accomplish that? That's right. Fauci verbalized the CDC recommendations which do not include a time line for boosting regardless of other circumstances.
So when I quote Fauci that counts as spewing?
I get that Beerman is interested in some type of pissing contest that involves exaggerated response to Fauci's words. When he can show me precisely how I am intentionally non-compliant...without having all of the details of the circumstances and using specific words from Fauci or his preferred covid expert, I'll concede. In the absence of that...he's just blustering.
I think Beerman is holding you to the same scrutiny and criticism you have bestowed on to others. He probably doesn't even disagree with your position. I don't. I think it's sound and makes sense. He is just holding you to the standard that you have to others.
The time line of my booster is my decision influenced by events and circumstances and collaboration. A delay in vaccination with a plan is neither a refusal nor noncompliance.
Exactly. Just like all the conservatives you criticized as "science deniers", "propaganzisised " and in so many words called them stupid and responsible for killing people throughout these threads! but somehow it's perfectly fine for you! Why? Rules are applied differently to you cuz you a Democrat?
I have a friend who's husband died (not from Covid) and offered bedrooms to his brothers to stay at her house for the funeral but requested that they be vaccinated. There were 6 brothers (Midwesterners:) and it turned out that one of the brothers who took the free offer was not vaccinated but didn't say a word until ANOTHER brother died after attending the funeral. One is unable to make this up. So, I'm not going to chastise people who actually ask for proof. We are wallowing in Covid now and getting into an ER is difficult unless it is MI or stroke. We live like this because of a moderately high rate of non-vaxxed and people not understanding that just because you're vaxxed, it doesn't mean you can't go out and life your life normally.
Personal experiences doesn't make one right! Remember??? Intact, I don't believe this story at all.
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2 hours ago, Beerman said:
Nope, that's not what said.
Good day.
You leave that impression with your remarks but don't care to clarify? It sometimes seems that you comment with the intention of generating a reaction rather than to convey a message or to have a dialog...inspite of your insistence otherwise.
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47 minutes ago, Cclm said:
I think Beerman is holding you to the same scrutiny and criticism you have bestowed on to others. He probably doesn't even disagree with your position. I don't. I think it's sound and makes sense. He is just holding you to the standard that you have to others.
Really. What have I said about vaccination or following guidance that compares to this current discussion of my booster status? Please be specific. What standard, specifically, are you stating that I have for others that's not applied to myself? I've answered the questions honestly and endured the comments and assumptions.
Maybe you are imagining a standard that I haven't acknowledged or elevated as appropriate and assigning it to me based upon your feelings about my comments. .
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46 minutes ago, Cclm said:
Exactly. Just like all the conservatives you criticized as "science deniers", "propaganzisised " and in so many words called them stupid and responsible for killing people throughout these threads! but somehow it's perfectly fine for you! Why? Rules are applied differently to you cuz you a Democrat?
So, delaying a booster with a plan for mitigation is the same as refusing to vaccinate and throwing around misinformation about vaccines in your view?
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 hour ago, Cclm said:
Isn't this what other people have done? Ohh. Is this one of the fabled hypocrisy that I've been imagining?
Anyone want me to cite a double standard? Well apparently TMB has decided what is best for him based on his own unique experience and situation? However has chastised others throughout these threads for the same? What's the difference? Political party maybe?
They want roof of hypocrisy and double standard, well here it is.
Apparently you are equating vaccine refusal and spread of propaganda with making responsible decisions and plans when confronted with unexpected circumstances. Perhaps your personal animus is what's reflected in your remarks.
Really. What have I said about vaccination or following guidance that compares to this current discussion of my booster status? Please be specific. What standard, specifically, are you stating that I have for others that's not applied to myself? I've answered the questions honestly and endured the comments and assumptions.
Maybe you are imagining a standard that I haven't acknowledged or elevated as appropriate and assigning it to me based upon your feelings about my comments. .
Anyone regular on these forums know exactly what I speak of. If anyone wants an example they can just read all your posts on the vaccine topics If I have sometime ,I'll get some quotes for you.
Apparently you are equating vaccine refusal and spread of propaganda with making responsible decisions and plans when confronted with unexpected circumstances. Perhaps your personal animus is what's reflected in your remarks.
No I am not. However those with a similar disposition of making a choice of when, or to get vaccinated have been met with your usual accusations of , "vaccine refusal and your favorite, "propaganda ". For the exact same decision you have made. I have seen several positions like yours torn apart in these threads.
Want me to find some? Better start mass deleting because there is plenty.
Again, you decision is sound but hold yourself to the sane standard. For the love of gawdddd
20 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:
So, delaying a booster with a plan for mitigation is the same as refusing to vaccinate and throwing around misinformation about vaccines in your view?
I'm not a Democrat, silly.
A "fiscal conservative "? LOL. Perhaps I should say Brandon I mean Biden voter. Is that more accurate? Come on man.
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4 hours ago, Cclm said:
Anyone regular on these forums know exactly what I speak of. If anyone wants an example they can just read all your posts on the vaccine topics If I have sometime ,I'll get some quotes for you.
Yep. Too lazy to actually substantiate your claims with exact verbiage. The only difference is instead of making claims about Biden or democrats now your blowing smoke about me personally. The pattern of sloppy accusation with nothing but your feelings to back you up.
Anyone who frequents these pages knows exactly what I speak of.
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Nope, that's not what said.
Good day.