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Why hello there!
How are you all?
I'm a recent College grad of my local Community College's RN program, and even more recently, I've become a licensed Registered Nurse! I passed the NCLEX in 75 questions!
I want you all to consider something before you pay hundreds of dollars for these NCLEX preparation courses (Kaplan, Hurst, or otherwise). I also want you all to know things about me so you can compare yourself, to myself, which is I'm telling you all, I'm a Community College graduate. I think it would be helpful for you to compare yourself to myself so that you can see that:
Point three is a big one. You are likely smart enough to pass the NCLEX! I know this, and so do all of these "preparation" test corporations.
Lastly, the main goal of this post is to decrease stress/anxiety among everyone who thinks they will be taking the NCLEX. The very close second goal of this post is to persuade you not to take any "preparation" course, especially if you (like myself) don't have much money to spend.
(skip this part if you don't care to compare my normalcy to your awesomeness!)
About Me
[*]I did study countless hours throughout the program. I'm not sure you could get through without studying for many hours.
[*]I dropped out of high school in the 10th grade with a 1.x GPA.
[*]I am a normal human being!
Why You Should Consider NOT Paying For A "Preparation" Course
Alright, here we are! I'm going to present an argument for you all, and you can either accept it, as I do, or say, "huh, this dude is a little cray-cray." Either way, I wish you luck! Also, this is mostly directed to Kaplan as that is what I've had most exposure to.
Let me lay out some premises for you:
(P.S - I was just assuming these two premises were true but if you look here: https://www.ncsbn.org/Table_of_Pass_Rates_2015_(3).pdf, it actually is true.)
Now then, what is Kaplan's guarantee? Let me recite it for you:
Now let's notice some things about their marketing:
With that in your mind, let's make some more assumptions:
From that, let's draw some conclusions:
I think that last point is CRUCIAL. They CANNOT turn a loser into a winner with any real success, which is why they don't give a money back guarantee for those who have failed before. What are you paying for these courses for? You're paying them because you believe that they will increase your chances of winning! Well I'm here to say that based on how they treat past failures, they don't believe that they can increase your chance of passing with any real or significant success! They don't believe they can improve you much, and if they don't believe they can improve you much, neither should you!
And before I end this, here's one thing I always hear. Something like, "If they help me pass, I'll be making a lot more money as an RN sooner then if I fail because I didn't take the course."
To that, I say, "Ahh yes. You're assuming that they will increase your chances of passing, yes? And even if the improvement is marginal, which it probably is based on the way they treat previous failures, if they help you win 5% more of the time, it's worth it because you'll be making a lot more money sooner right? Well, if you consider that if you say... STUDY yourself and do practice questions w/rationals and understand these reasoning's you will gain that same 5% increase in chance WITHOUT paying $500, does it make sense?" - I hope it doesn't...
You understand you are paying them to give you work! Work you already have! Look at your text books! Go to a library/Barnes and Noble and study for free. They don't know anything more than what your text books have already told you.
And you want to know their "key strategy"? It's called the Kaplan decision tree. Literally just Google "Kaplan decision tree" and there you go.
And as for some cheap anecdotal evidence, everyone of my colleagues have told me it was a waste of their money.
They don't have "secret" information that will all of a sudden make you better. They don't have a strategy that's going to make you better than the next random RN graduate. They are trying to sell you magic, and you know what? Magic doesn't exist. If you want to increase your chance of passing the NCLEX, study hard throughout your program and study after you graduate and DO PRACTICE QUESTIONS from books w/rationals and UNDERSTAND them! Understand why they are right, and why they are wrong! And know your labs! Paying $500 isn't going to substitute for simply putting in the hours that it takes to study. Don't pay $500 for magic because only work will get you where you want to be.
You and I are average my friend, and average is all it takes!
I apologize for any spelling mistakes. If you'd like to know any more things about my average self, just ask! I'd also love some opinions and counter arguments if you disagree with me!
Thanks for reading,
-ThatNursingDude
Congrats on passing NCLEX!
You don't need to stress if you graduated from your program. You are likely smart enough to pass the NCLEX.
You are likely smart enough to pass the NCLEX! I know this, and so do all of these "preparation" test corporations.
Not necessarily so. Plenty of graduates from reputable nursing schools do not pass the NCLEX for whatever reason whether they use they use Kaplan/Hurst/etc or not.
This post is helpful for those who want to validate not taking review courses. But NCLEX is such a subjective experience.
I paid for the live Hurst review and have no regrets. It helped me improve on core content and soothed my anxiety. I passed with 75 questions. Many bemoan the prices of review courses like Kaplan and Hurst, but I would rather pay for the review course now than pay for the NCLEX retake later.
Since no one I know has a magical crystal ball (would that we did!!) we really can't say how anyone would have fared on the NCLEX if he/she hadn't taken the course....or how he/she would have done if he/she HAD taken it. Psychic ability NOT on my resume![]()
Amazing insight!
What we do know is that for some people, uber-preparations make them feel more confident, and in those cases, they SHOULD do whatever they feel they should in order to best be ready to test. Do they all NEED all that review coursework? Maybe not....maybe....it's really an individual thing.But is it a WASTE, in every single one of those cases where people spend money on commercial courses to prepare for NCLEX? Absolutely not. For SOME, I do believe it was quite necessary, as their nursing programs were lacking. Not every school churns out students ready to take the exam, so....they have to prepare themselves.
I agree, some people do need a lot of preparation to make them feel good, but what I also said in my post is that, if you are looking to save a couple hundred dollars anyways, go to the library or even buy books cheaply and study those.
My school did not use computerized testing, it was pencil and paper and filling in bubbles on occasion. I had never experienced anything like what I would face on the NCLEX UNTIL I paid for a Kaplan program that included the Q-Bank stuff as well as classroom review time.
If you can pass Nursing school, you shouldn't be intimidated about the thought of clicking on the correct answer in a computer format. Plus the NCLEX gives you a demo that you can take over and over again for free before you take the actual exam.
The classroom time was good in that it gave me a new instructor to listen to, hear strategies from, etc. I didn't learn a single thing that I didn't already know. But I wanted to make sure :)
Great! It adds to the evidence that you learning nothing new in Kaplan!
Now...the ONLINE part of the program, the Q-Bank, Trainer Tests, etc....that was PRICELESS in my own personal opinion. The computer format was set up to exactly mimic the actual NCLEX I would see at a PV testing site, I became comfortable with the style of testing, and the clock ticking down time (yes, even that was helpful, as I was so anxious about that initially).By the time I sat for the actual exam, and the screen opened to my REAL test, it looked for all the world just like one more Training exam. Right down to the clock and the colors/fonts
Can't tell you how much that gave me confidence, calmed me because "hey, I've DONE THIS, no big deal at all".
Again, I don't think you should be intimidated about clicking the right choice on a computer if you got through Nursing school.
Ultimately, whatever any one person thinks he or she needs in order to feel ready is what he or she needs, period. No, it isn't going to magically transform someone who fails into someone who passes, but for those who are perhaps on the line...or THINK they are on the line....it sure can't hurt!Good luck to everyone who still needs to test, however you get there :)
Absolutely! If someone needs more things to study, all I'm saying is save a couple hundred bucks and buy some books or even just browse the internet.
That is awesome! Congrats!
But what I was also talking about is you can get the same preparation if you simply put in the study hours on material far cheaper than those "courses". It's about saving money, and decreasing anxiety.
EDIT: Sorry, first time really trying to work this site... This comment was addressed to TheCommuter.
Just paying $500 won't make you pass NCLEX. Actually putting in the time to study the material and learn the decision tree and do all the practice questions & trainers does. I personally felt that Kaplan was very beneficial. Our school gifted us with a "scholarship" for it, so I only had to pay $100 instead of $525.Nothing is one-size-fits-all. What works for one person, might not work for others. Congrats on passing the NCLEX :)
I agree, it's more about studying a lot and not really spending a lot.
Congrats on passing NCLEX!Not necessarily so. Plenty of graduates from reputable nursing schools do not pass the NCLEX for whatever reason whether they use they use Kaplan/Hurst/etc or not.
This post is helpful for those who want to validate not taking review courses. But NCLEX is such a subjective experience.
Well, it is correct necessarily. That's why I added the data from the NCLEX site on passing rates for first time test takers. "Plenty" fail in the sense that a lot of people fail, but it's not the case that "plenty" fail if you look at it in terms of percentages. And I think percentages is the correct way to look at it...
I guess however, if you know your school has bad passing rates, you may be right to be more fearful. But in general, on average, this is necessarily true according to the data.
Thanks by the way!
Thank you for your post, I LOVE the way you said it, the reality/rationality was awesome! I'm a grad from 2012 from IOT here in Salem. I had taken the NCLEX 2 times and failed both times just barely under the fail line I suppose I could use that analogy. I had to stop studying for the NCLEX-PN due to the fact that my husband was DX W/Stage4 NSCLC Adnenocarcinoma(sp) on Aug.2 2013. his first round of chemo meds he was on was Alimpta(sp) and Cisplatin q21 days then cancer had metastasis to the brain in late April of 2014, so he had 10rounds of radiation, then back on chemo that time he was on, I can't think of the med he was on. I do remember them giving it via "push" over about an 8-10minute time period they pushed it threw a port they'd put in above his heart after his 1rst chemo meds did a number on his veins. Then last October 2014, the chemo medication he was taking wasn't affective on his type of cancer like it was when he first went on it, which was shortly post radiation. And to this day 7/30/2015 he has been w/o any type of treatments what so ever. He has lost a significant amt of wt BUT he is still able to function, he is a lot slower but can still walk, talk for himself, he's capable of making up his own mind and making his needs known. I still let/allow him to do whatever he wants except drive, I'm scared whenever he drives, so that's why I do all the driving. But if we aren't going far and he wants to drive, then I'll let him. He is not at the point in this ordeal where I have to do everything, and while he still can I'll let him do whatever he wants.....the reason I am writing is that I want/need to get myself back into studying for my NCLEX. OSBN only allows 3yrs post graduation which i'm like 7mths past BUT I've talked with WSBN and they have no time restrictions on graduated nurse's, so I will take my NCLEX threw WA state instead of OR. I'd really like it I could find someone that could come to the house or met somewhere close to the house just in case, to re-educate me on things I need to know for the NCLEX. I have no, zero idea who or where to look, and if that doesn't work out, I'd like to know if my school books, materials are still good enough to use. I got them 4yrs ago and a lot may have changed I'm sure since then. I want to be licensed so bad, but I have to make sure I know my materials first..Thank you!
Hi thank you very much for the very inspiring message. I am also not good student when i was in my college days. I don't even remember that i've got an A. I am bad at studying also even i study hard my confidence pull me down. That's why it's been 10 years after I graduated from nursing and until now I have fear to get the NCLEX. I tried to review last 2013 but got disappointed from the score that I always got it's below 50 so I think you will know how bad my brain is hehe. I never take NCLEX, if so this is my first try but i'm still figuring out how to study and what Are the right materials to use. U inspired me so much that i think I can do it. I thought before that NCLEX is just for smarty people only. Now I will try my very best with God's help. FightingðŸ‘ðŸ»
I enjoyed this post. I graduated in May from an ADN program with poor pass rates and right now my class is at a 100% pass rate! We did Kaplan and Rayfield as a class (we had to pay for Kaplan but Rayfield was provided to us for free). I did not find Kaplan to be helpful at all, and we had been using the testing portion the entire year before we were given the review course. I found the NCLEX to be more straightforward than Kaplan. I did the entire qbank and all of the trainers earlier in the semester to prepare for our Kaplan exit exam, but I did not use Kaplan again to study for the NCLEX. I took it last Wednesday and passed with 75 questions. Did not use a single Kaplan strategy. I'm sure it is helpful for some, however I found Rayfield's content review and Lacharity's PDA book to be of much more help to me while studying. Everyone is different though :) congrats on passing and good luck to everyone!
StuffedBear
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I totally agree with the OP here.
Personally I took Kaplan Review...throughout all those sessions I felt like I can do this on my own. They aren't really teaching you anything new except for the decision tree which they cover briefly I felt. Also, they give you a ton of work....work you can easily get for much cheaper from books or free from library.
To tell you the truth, readers....I never finished Kaplan Review's modules or completed their couple thousands of questions. I dropped it because I was lazy...that was my own fault, wasted resources and ppl's money. Dumb of me.
However, I can tell you I also passed my NCLEX the first try, and I never really quite went back to Kaplan's methods. To add, I waited 1 yr after graduation to take it too and did Kaplan in early post-grad.
Check out a post that I made in the forum for details on how I pass and my story...should encourage those who are still struggling.
So to conclude, believe in yourself, give yourself more credit!!
You do not need Review Preps that cost $500. All you need is confidence, diligence to study, and most a free review book from the library with a CD. If not available, buy one used for less than $50.
Good luck folks.