Conflict with Manager - suggestions please!

alintanurse · Jul 16, 2005

Hopefully you have an exit interview where you can vent or put it in writing and send it to the director or ceo.

gypsyatheart · Jul 16, 2005

Why don't you just call the manager and confront her? Tell her, short and sweet, what you've said here...you're an excellent nurse who works full time hrs on her unit,you have been passed over for the FT position, you gave her the opportunity to make you FT, she chose not to, now you're moving on. Tell her you just want to clarify the circumstances under which you are leaving....you know, so there is no "confusion" as to what is really going on. Other than that I wouldn't waste another minute worrying about it. These types of managers never learn!

talaxandra · Jul 16, 2005

Moondancer's suggestion is good. If she's been telling other ward staff that she offered you a job, quietly but fimly correct this when they tell you - "No, she didn't." The truth will get around the department at least as fast as her spin does!

TypicalFish · Jul 16, 2005

Moondancer's reply is good; i would consider writing a very well-worded, non-judgemental letter to management, letting them know what happened, why you left, and not only did this manager cost the facility an excellent nurse, she is now slandering 'your good name' to other employees.

But also bearing in mind how many bridges you care to burn (so to speak)... I can see your point about leaving and starting over-I believe quite a bit in Karma, fate whatever. I had two managers in completely different jobs that were mean and vindictive to myself and other employees, I left both jobs (years apart), and eventually heard that fate came 'round and bit them both in the _ _ _.

I, too would want to say my side, and try and fix things, but you may not be able to, and you may end up feeling like you just got into 'my word against hers' argument. Also bear in mind that, since you heard it from a 'source' of why she was behaving the way that she was, and since you have spoken to other emlpoyees about why you left, many people already realize what this manager is like, saving you having to tell 'your side'; and the ones who already believe her version of what happened may not be too likely to change their minds.

I hope that this makes sense. I guess I just mean, that if you really need to vent to management, do it in a well-spoken, non judgemental way, otherwise hold your head high, mark it off to experience (document as it happens next time) and move on. Good Luck, and enjoy your new job.

Euskadi1946 · Jul 16, 2005

:angryfire

I have been working on my unit for 3 years as a part time nurse with full time hours. Basically, I work with no set schedule, no benefits, but more than a full timer because I don't get paid vacation time. I hardly ever call in sick, am always diligent in my work, and generally well liked by my peers. My manager however, is known for being a scatter brain and lacks communication skills.
I applied for a full time position on my unit when 2 became available (and full time here doesn't become available very often). She chose not to hire from within the unit part time pool because (and this is only speculation, but information from a 'source' close to the manager confirmed this): myself and 2 other part timers who work full time hours don't have kids, therefore, we can continue to do these crazy hours and be called for last minute switches/fill ins. We have already gone to the union over this.
2 more full time positions opened up, and I applied again. I asked to speak with my manager about my place on the seniority list, my chances of getting full time, etc...she ignored me for 3 weeks. She kept saying she was too busy to discuss the issues, and would talk to me later (which might be true, as she does seem to be very busy). However, in the meantime, I applied for a job elsewhere (full time) and got it. I called her 2 weeks ago to tell her I was leaving. A 2 minute conversation and that was all that was discussed.
Now, I've heard that she is telling people that she offered me a full time job, but I turned it down. This makes me very angry!!! :angryfire It makes me look like a whiney little kid: I complain that I can't get full time, but then turn it down when it is offered. I asked her about this, and she claims that during our phone conversation when I told her I was leaving, she offered me a full time position. AAHHGG!!
Suggestions on what to do next please!! I am still leaving for full time elsewhere, but I feel insulted by this. I'm starting to conclude that any action would not be of use, and it's better to leave and start over.

If I were an uncivilized and unruly person I would suggest that you punch her lights out!!! But since I am a civilized person and follow the rules, probably the best thing for you to do is schedule a meeting with her and as her point why she did not hire you. If you don't get satisfaction then go up the chain of command and if you still don't get satisfaction then go somewhere else. I certainly would not work in a place like that. No job security not benefits and especially with a boss like this person... :angryfire

markjrn · Jul 16, 2005

I have been working on my unit for 3 years as a part time nurse with full time hours. Basically, I work with no set schedule, no benefits, but more than a full timer because I don't get paid vacation time. I hardly ever call in sick, am always diligent in my work, and generally well liked by my peers. My manager however, is known for being a scatter brain and lacks communication skills.
I applied for a full time position on my unit when 2 became available (and full time here doesn't become available very often). She chose not to hire from within the unit part time pool because (and this is only speculation, but information from a 'source' close to the manager confirmed this): myself and 2 other part timers who work full time hours don't have kids, therefore, we can continue to do these crazy hours and be called for last minute switches/fill ins. We have already gone to the union over this.
2 more full time positions opened up, and I applied again. I asked to speak with my manager about my place on the seniority list, my chances of getting full time, etc...she ignored me for 3 weeks. She kept saying she was too busy to discuss the issues, and would talk to me later (which might be true, as she does seem to be very busy). However, in the meantime, I applied for a job elsewhere (full time) and got it. I called her 2 weeks ago to tell her I was leaving. A 2 minute conversation and that was all that was discussed.
Now, I've heard that she is telling people that she offered me a full time job, but I turned it down. This makes me very angry!!! :angryfire It makes me look like a whiney little kid: I complain that I can't get full time, but then turn it down when it is offered. I asked her about this, and she claims that during our phone conversation when I told her I was leaving, she offered me a full time position. AAHHGG!!
Suggestions on what to do next please!! I am still leaving for full time elsewhere, but I feel insulted by this. I'm starting to conclude that any action would not be of use, and it's better to leave and start over.

Her loss, move on.

I'm wondering though, if you should have received a position because of your seniority? Do you have the right to file a grievance? Have you spoken with your union rep?

Lalage · Jul 16, 2005

Thank you for all the suggestions! This matter has been annoying me more than it should...and I think a well written letter to her and upper management might be the solution. I did met with her to clarify 'the story' and she firmly believes that I turned down her offer. Maybe she really is delusional! Also, as talaxandra said, news did fly around the unit quickly, and most people have been supportive of my version of events. I could grieve this to the union...found out that many people have grievences against her, but they don't get very far because she never returns calls or attends meetings setup by the union. Big surprise there! :rolleyes:

hollyster · Jul 16, 2005

Moondancer's reply is good; i would consider writing a very well-worded, non-judgemental letter to management, letting them know what happened, why you left, and not only did this manager cost the facility an excellent nurse, she is now slandering 'your good name' to other employees.
I hope that this makes sense. I guess I just mean, that if you really need to vent to management, do it in a well-spoken, non judgemental way, otherwise hold your head high, mark it off to experience (document as it happens next time) and move on. Good Luck, and enjoy your new job.

I agree. Put it in writing with a copies to the NM, the DON, HR, and the hsp CEO.

Gabie Baby · Jul 17, 2005

I have been working on my unit for 3 years as a part time nurse with full time hours. Basically, I work with no set schedule, no benefits, but more than a full timer because I don't get paid vacation time. I hardly ever call in sick, am always diligent in my work, and generally well liked by my peers. My manager however, is known for being a scatter brain and lacks communication skills.
I applied for a full time position on my unit when 2 became available (and full time here doesn't become available very often). She chose not to hire from within the unit part time pool because (and this is only speculation, but information from a 'source' close to the manager confirmed this): myself and 2 other part timers who work full time hours don't have kids, therefore, we can continue to do these crazy hours and be called for last minute switches/fill ins. We have already gone to the union over this.
2 more full time positions opened up, and I applied again. I asked to speak with my manager about my place on the seniority list, my chances of getting full time, etc...she ignored me for 3 weeks. She kept saying she was too busy to discuss the issues, and would talk to me later (which might be true, as she does seem to be very busy). However, in the meantime, I applied for a job elsewhere (full time) and got it. I called her 2 weeks ago to tell her I was leaving. A 2 minute conversation and that was all that was discussed.
Now, I've heard that she is telling people that she offered me a full time job, but I turned it down. This makes me very angry!!! :angryfire It makes me look like a whiney little kid: I complain that I can't get full time, but then turn it down when it is offered. I asked her about this, and she claims that during our phone conversation when I told her I was leaving, she offered me a full time position. AAHHGG!!
Suggestions on what to do next please!! I am still leaving for full time elsewhere, but I feel insulted by this. I'm starting to conclude that any action would not be of use, and it's better to leave and start over.

:chuckle :rolleyes:

aileenve, ASN, RN · Jul 17, 2005

I have been working on my unit for 3 years as a part time nurse with full time hours. Basically, I work with no set schedule, no benefits, but more than a full timer because I don't get paid vacation time. I hardly ever call in sick, am always diligent in my work, and generally well liked by my peers. My manager however, is known for being a scatter brain and lacks communication skills.
I applied for a full time position on my unit when 2 became available (and full time here doesn't become available very often). She chose not to hire from within the unit part time pool because (and this is only speculation, but information from a 'source' close to the manager confirmed this): myself and 2 other part timers who work full time hours don't have kids, therefore, we can continue to do these crazy hours and be called for last minute switches/fill ins. We have already gone to the union over this.
2 more full time positions opened up, and I applied again. I asked to speak with my manager about my place on the seniority list, my chances of getting full time, etc...she ignored me for 3 weeks. She kept saying she was too busy to discuss the issues, and would talk to me later (which might be true, as she does seem to be very busy). However, in the meantime, I applied for a job elsewhere (full time) and got it. I called her 2 weeks ago to tell her I was leaving. A 2 minute conversation and that was all that was discussed.
Now, I've heard that she is telling people that she offered me a full time job, but I turned it down. This makes me very angry!!! :angryfire It makes me look like a whiney little kid: I complain that I can't get full time, but then turn it down when it is offered. I asked her about this, and she claims that during our phone conversation when I told her I was leaving, she offered me a full time position. AAHHGG!!
Suggestions on what to do next please!! I am still leaving for full time elsewhere, but I feel insulted by this. I'm starting to conclude that any action would not be of use, and it's better to leave and start over.

You need to have an appt. with the director of nursing and ask what the policy is on hiring from part-time to full-time staff. Since there is a nursing shortage and they had 2 full time positions available it would seem to me that they would want an experienced nurse and one familiar with their facility. But, as you well know, managers do what is easier for THEIR schedule, that is call you when they need you! I would still let them know what she did, a lot of times the director has no idea what is happening on the units! I would still keep the new position, if it is better for you.

grandee3 · Jul 17, 2005

I don't trust thos kind of managers,she has no right telling your fellow nurses.I had a manager that told certian people things about other nurses that was related to their job. She had a few of those people reporting back to her. when she was finished with them she spit them out.

Please follow chain of command and report this person.