Community College? You must be stupid.

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So, tonight I was talking about the classes I'll be taking this fall at my local community college (one of which is chemistry which I'm a little nervous about since I've never had a chemistry class before) with my wonderful bachelor's degree holding partner who, in an attempt to ease my anxiety makes the comment "Well, it's just at a community college so the class should be pretty easy." :madface: Wrong thing to say honey...

It did however get me to thinking about the general attitudes that people have towards not only community colleges but also to vocational/trade schools. That those of us who go to such institutions are intellectually inadequate and wouldn't be able to handle the academic rigors of a 4 year college or university. This attitude is completely inaccurate, after all if my classes were so EASY then the 4 year colleges and universities in my area wouldn't have an articulation agreement which honors the credits I take at the community college. It is a different atmosphere in a community college of course, but that doesn't mean I don't have to learn the material and learn it well in order to pass.

I remember in high school when I decided to enter the Practical Nursing program at the vocational school how I received criticism, statements such as "Well, you need to go to a 4 year college, anything less is for people who are stupid." and even now when I tell people I'm an LPN and that I've been at a community college taking classes I'm greeted with a concerned expression, a half smile, and a polite nod. A voice bubble might as well pop up above their head saying, "Well, since you're a failure at life and this is all you have, I'll be happy for you." after all since I'm going to a community college it means I can't handle REAL academics.

It may sound as though I'm jealous of those who get to receive a university education and have a bachelor's degree or above and are the same age as myself. And, yes, at times I am jealous because I would have loved to have had the same experience. But that simply just wasn't my path, one day I will "pull my time" in a four year college, my path will take me there, just not yet.

I believe no matter your credentials, whether you're doctorate degree holding FNP or a certificate holding CNA that you should be incredibly proud. Whether you're bachelor's prepared RN or a diploma holding LPN you should be proud. Because all levels of education should be revered and respected and valued. I don't feel ashamed of not already being a Registered Nurse or a college graduate nor do I have any regret at first becoming a CNA and then becoming an LPN because I still am helping people and I am still living my dream and that dream was to be independent. If you're a BSN or an ADN be PROUD of it no matter what your credentials are because you earned them.

College graduates face really discouraging odds. Many are unemployed, many more are employed in something other than their field of study, and many still are up to their eyeballs in debt. My partner for instance has a bachelor's degree yet works in job making a little over minimum wage. That is why I chose the path I did. When I was 17 and I enrolled in the LPN program, I knew due to my personal and financial circumstances that I couldn't afford to go to college just yet, I needed to be self sufficient and going to a trade school and later to a community college would allow me to do that. It wasn't the right choice for everyone but it was for me, and because of that I can pay for my school one semester at a time while minimizing and most semesters avoiding student loans, not to mention a few years head start on 401k versus my peers and that feels really good.

A dear friend of mine always wanted to be a mechanic, her family, peers, etc were not supportive "only stupid people do something like that" so instead she got 2 bachelor's degrees, is jobless, and owes thousands of dollars in student loans. All this because her dream was too "stupid" in the eyes of her parents and everyone else. Side not, I know many mechanics who make more money than I do and they're all pretty happy. I think the attitude that you go to college to "make a better life for yourself" isn't always accurate. We shouldn't be telling our children that they have to go to college in order to be considered intelligent or successful. We should be telling them that in this world success isn't defined by your credentials or where you went to school or how much money you make, it's defined by getting out of life what you make of it and what you want from it. Do what you love people, whether you're a CNA or a Medical Doctor, do what you love and love what you do and be proud but above all else never assume that someone is stupid simply because their education is different from yours.

Whew... feels good to get that out.

Oh and my partner quickly apologized for what he said. Probably had something to do with the fact I spouted off this little speech in the course of sixty seconds after his comment. :smokin:

Here in NW Indiana, the CC has higher NCLEX pass rates and a reputation for putting out the best new nurses. We have two universities here offering BSNs, but one of them is on probation with the NLNAC because their staff is not educated enough (not enough MSNs teaching the classes) so the CC is the best option and I know many who have received job offers during the final semester, before even sitting for boards....I am proud to be in this ASN program, and I hold a BA from a 4-year university and taught for 10 years before switching to nursing!

*A funny note: my school takes 30 students at a time, and it is very widely known around here that those who cannot get in to the CC, then apply and get in to the 4-year university BSN programs!

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Here in NW Indiana, the CC has higher NCLEX pass rates and a reputation for putting out the best new nurses. We have two universities here offering BSNs, but one of them is on probation with the NLNAC because their staff is not educated enough (not enough MSNs teaching the classes) so the CC is the best option and I know many who have received job offers during the final semester, before even sitting for boards....I am proud to be in this ASN program, and I hold a BA from a 4-year university and taught for 10 years before switching to nursing!

*A funny note: my school takes 30 students at a time, and it is very widely known around here that those who cannot get in to the CC, then apply and get in to the 4-year university BSN programs!

Wow! I must be one of those dumb ones going for my BSN. It's amazing my stupid BSN program had a 100% pass rate 1st time around on the NCLEX for both classes last year. But us stupid BSN CC-rejects will be sure to never ever put you down for going to a CC because that would be awful, right????? There's a word thats called but I can't think of it because I go to a University...

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I like the optimism that everyone thinks a job will land right on there lap after graduation from their programs. Must be nice cause my area sucks and is over saturated. I think that again, depends on your area. ADNs getting hired? Are BSNs getting hired? Which will make you stand out?

I think the goal of all of us is to graduate and start practicing with whatever degree you have, basically what will get you job. So when this cc vs university debate comes up I ask myself those questions above.

Unfortunately my answers are no, yes, BSN. Cost and time aside, honestly I think aiming for the higher education is always the answer. If you can't do it because of other reasons then thats why you can do the cc route. Both are nurses. And in the end, that's all that matters.

HA!!! CC have less rigorous classes. Not one bit, day two you are on the floor. I will never forget the day that our 2yr program and the 4yr were doing clinicals on the same floor and I had to show them how to prime a piggyback ( they were in the 2nd semester of the 3rd year). Those snotty 4yr students thought they were so smart til we were running circles around them with our own patients, and they were doing vitals and hanging meds. Ok you get more class time in a 4yr program, 2yr programs toss your butt out there for real. Who's stupid, I make the same pay check the 4yrs do ;0

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