CNAS behind Nurses Station more than nurse

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Jan 1, 2005

The last LTC facility i worked at, surfing the net was an automatic termination, unless you were looking up laws on the state nursing board, or researching a med.

webblarsk · Jan 1, 2005

I usually just ask them to move and they do. If I notice that they are always behind the desk I give them a list of things to do. Oral Care, taking residents to the bathroom, washing wheelchairs, etc..................

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Jan 1, 2005

Oh, i hated washing wheelchairs, some of them needed a hammer and a chisel to get the gunk off.

NursesRmofun, ASN, RN · Jan 1, 2005

I work in a LTC facility. The CNA's are sitting behind the nurse's station more than the nurses. We don't even have enough room to sit down and chart! I have had to ask them to move on several occasions (more than I care to count). :angryfire
Are there regulations about who is allowed behind a nurse's station? If so, would someone please show me where to find it????

You must be new to the facility. I would tell you to go ahead and tell them they are only to be behind the nursing station when it's not busy....or whenever you think it is appropriate.

webblarsk · Jan 1, 2005

Oh, i hated washing wheelchairs, some of them needed a hammer and a chisel to get the gunk off.

Ya..............It was never one of my fav jobs. And it seems like they get dirty so quick!

Nurse2be_08 · Jan 1, 2005

I received CNA training in highschool (I spent about a week out of regular classes) and was not prepared when I got a job in a LTC facility. Orientation lasted two days. CNAs need better and longer training. I couldn't even chart when I started. So in my case, it wasn't that I was lazy, I just didn't know what I was doing :chuckle

mimo · Jan 1, 2005

I have seen this kind of patient neglect and disrespect for others from both cna (I have been one for twelve years) and from nurses (nursing student). Thankfully, it has been rare on both parts. However, it seems that ltc's are the worst for all of the above. I worked my tail off from the time I entered the door till break time (if I got one at the ltc) till the end of shift, but there was those few cnas and nurses who refused to acknowledge call lights or were constantly bickering back and forth. IT WAS AWFUL!!! Where was the patients?-at the mercy of all of the staff :angryfire . A SAD SITUATION!!!!! My point is if you have problems with a workers conduct (regardless of there job title) go through the chain and voice your concerns. If that does not work let the powers that be know that patient neglect due to worker's lack of compassion or lack of competence (I hate to say it, but we have all seen it in both areas) could bring major problems for the facility!! The power of one is extremly powerful if approached and applied correctly!!!If that don't work-then it is time to move on. TEAMWORK, RESPECT, AND COMPASSION FOR COWORKERS AND PATIENTS is what it is all about!!!! If those aren't present, and change can't be achieved-new opportunities await :)

allnurses Guide · Jan 1, 2005

I too feel very badly for the residents. My grandmother is in a LTC facility and I'd be spitting nails if she was being treated this way.

In the LTC facility attached to the hospital where I work, there is one long desk for the nurses at the nurse's station and a large table in the break room for the CNA's to chart. There is also another smaller table in the nurses's station that the aids use. Why not try to accomodate all the people who have to chart?

Everyone has a role to play and no one is more important than the other .. . .the focus should be working as a TEAM to make sure the residents are treated with respect. . . . Instead of bickering about who should stand in the nurse's station. Sounds like the days when docs thought nurses had to give up their seats for them.

Everyone should have a place to chart.

steph

matty23 · Jan 1, 2005

I work in a LTC facility. The CNA's are sitting behind the nurse's station more than the nurses. We don't even have enough room to sit down and chart! I have had to ask them to move on several occasions (more than I care to count). :angryfire
Are there regulations about who is allowed behind a nurse's station? If so, would someone please show me where to find it????

I work in a ER...Busy ER usually. I am a 'er technician II' ...paramedic...Most of the staff I work with are wonderfull...I love them and get along with them all great...but I find that there are a couple RNs that work on my shifts that are just plain LAZY. It is very sad to see it. The one does not have to get out of her chair unless a medication is being given--if its something i can push in the field, them the doc will let me do so... I do the IV, lab work, EKG, get the urine spec., everything...Now its one thing if we are super busy..but this would be her only patient and she still does it...I have 17 rooms to deal with on my own as a tech...mind u , we have no transport..thats me...so my job is pretty much non stop from the time i clock in. Most of the time the patients think I am the nurse. (nope, your nurse is at the desk "charting" and eating dinner ) I feel over worked and pulled in about 20 different directions at work when i work with this lazy shift. Its awful. I have went twice to managment. Nothing is done. I love my job. don't get me wrong, but things would be so much easier if everyone did their job equally. It is a sad situation. What makes me the most mad is when she will come outside and hunt me down while i am on a smoke break.

bargainhound, RN · Jan 1, 2005

I cannot imagine how an RN in ER can "sit" and be "lazy". It does not compute.

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Jan 1, 2005

I've seen it ONE time, and it was a VERY slow night at the ER. And it was the charge nurse who was sitting (yet, he's notorious for keeping a desk chair warm).

not now, RN · Jan 1, 2005

Heck, some places i worked at, there wasn't enough room for all the nurses to get back there to chart. They stood like the rest of us.

I was refering to not letting CNA's behind the counter at the nurses station. Where I work charts, the I&O book, the BM book, flow sheets and the food % book are all kept at the nurses station behind the counter. It's so rare that our nurse sits down that getting up for her isn't a big deal, we gladly get up because she's been standing the entire shift.