DallasRN 249 Posts Specializes in ICU/ER/Med-Surg/Case Management/Manageme. Mar 24 klone said: I think Hoosier is saying that people with no healthcare or nursing background who are in hospital leadership positions (or at least, frontline leadership) look at it from a business/finance perspective only, and not a patient care and safety perspective. The best of both worlds is if they actually taught business courses in nursing leadership master's degree programs. I can tell you that half the clinic leaders in my organization do not have a healthcare background - they have MBAs or MHAs. Thank you for the clarification. I agree that nursing managers with NO healthcare background would be detrimental on many fronts. My point was that having a manager with SOME nursing/bedside experience and background but with an advanced business degree would benefit nurses. I appreciate your "best of both worlds" scenario. As noted, I've been out of the patient care environment for a long time. I find it interesting half of your clinic leaders have no healthcare background. I think the biggest issue is total lack of respect for the profession from the highest level of management (any organization) down to the very lowest. And that includes patients. My eyes were opened wide when reading comments pertaining to the illegally received licenses....comments from many healthcare providers and MANY in the general public...they've been doing the job so just let them keep doing it. Total dismay. So...now I'm off to my very low-paying, no stress, no-responsibility, no thought required, non-nursing job that helps me pay my electricity bill in my "retirement" years! 🤣 Great day wishes to all!