Check Your Wall Clocks - Hidden Cameras

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From the "L.A. Times"

November 18, 2004

Nurses Find Hidden Cameras at Hospital

Good Samaritan workers fear intrusive monitoring. Officials cite security concerns.

By Jia-Rui Chong, Times Staff Writer

It was the wires dangling from a wall clock that first caught the eye of the nurse, who was taking a breather after a stint in the labor and delivery unit of Good Samaritan Hospital.

A closer inspection revealed a tiny, pea-sized camera lens above the numeral "9."

Within minutes, nurses at the hospital just west of downtown Los Angeles hit the phones, alerting colleagues about the device in the break room and asking them to check other clocks for hidden cameras. In all, they found 16 tiny devices hidden within timepieces placed on the walls of lounges, a fitness center, a conference room and a pharmacy, among other locations.

"We feel they have violated our rights and our privacy," said Sussette Nacorda, 50, a nurse in the coronary care unit, who found a camera in a lounge.

Hospital officials said they installed the cameras over the summer as part of a security effort. They said they had intended to put up signs to notify people about the cameras but had not had an opportunity before the devices were discovered. The cameras had not yet been turned on, they said.

"Our goal is not at all to spy on" nurses, said Sammy Feuerlicht, the hospital's vice president of business. "Our goal is to make employees feel more comfortable, not less comfortable."

Feuerlicht contends that the hospital installed the cameras after employees expressed concern that some break rooms and other facilities were vulnerable to burglaries.

"There had been some thefts occurring in break rooms in the past," he said, adding that the plan was for security officers to review the footage if someone reported a theft.

Nurses said they were particularly incensed because they believed some of the cameras had partial views of locker rooms and a visitors' area commonly used by mothers to breastfeed. Break rooms are often used by nurses to change clothes, they said.

Hospital officials countered that the rooms should not be used for changing clothes and that they did not consider them private areas.

Jim Lott, a spokesman for the Hospital Assn. of Southern California, said it was standard practice for hospitals to install cameras and that these were the first complaints about privacy he had heard.

Hospitals have grown more concerned about security since a man killed two employees and a patient on a shooting spree at West Anaheim Medical Center about five years ago, Lott said.

"I don't know that it's wrong, bad or problematic [to have cameras] in a break room so long as people are aware that they are there," Lott said.

Cameras have also sparked controversy at Bakersfield Memorial Hospital, where nurses discovered cameras last month.

"We don't know where all the surveillance equipment is yet," said Chris Swanson, a labor representative at the Bakersfield hospital. "We have discovered surveillance cameras near some nurses' stations."

She said she believes hospital management has made inappropriate use of the cameras by monitoring the nurses' work habits.

A spokesman for the hospital said that about five cameras have operated for three years in hallways and common areas around nursing stations at Memorial Center, a satellite campus that treats patients with psychiatric disorders and chemical dependency.

"They are security cameras," said hospital spokesman Ken Keller. "They are not cameras to monitor workers or anything along those lines."

Keller said the hospital has put up signs warning visitors and employees that cameras may be operating. He said the hospital has not installed any cameras in break areas.

"That's a line we don't want to cross," he said.

If the hospital is watching people in a clandestine way, they have clandestine motives.

Please tell me the cameras are outside of the doors and not inside. Please?

Tweety I can tell you that Parisian Department Stores have cameras INSIDE their dressing rooms. I can't speak for other stores but I would bet quite a few others do as well. My mother used to work security there and I have been back into the camera rooms. They told me it was legalbecause women watch the women's dressing rooms and men watch the men's. Well, that is absurd if you ask me. :angryfire

This makes me wonder now about where I work. Our night supervisor was telling us about a nurse that was stopped as he was about to leave because he had a Vicodin in his pocket. He said he had forgotten it was there. When us nurses asked how management knew he had it, she just smiled and shrugged her shoulders. Maybe we have a camera in our med room?!! I will have to check the clock.:rolleyes:

If the cameras were legitimately for the "protection" of the staff, why did they need to be hidden in clocks,etc.?

bingo! and how long does it take to have someon print off a sign alerting personnel to the cameras? That's bull crap. If you want to "prevent" crime with cameras then the criminals better d@mn well know they are there so they can think twice! How are cameras going to discourage theft and assault when the potential criminal has know idea he/she is being recorded?

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

So...we're 'not doing our job the way we're supposed to' if we don't wish to be spied on without our knowledge?? I hope that's not what you're implying.

Did i say that? No i did not. I stated how i felt if i were the one being filmed, and my objections to it.

What i'd said is not an implication of anything.

Did i say that? No i did not. I stated how i felt if i were the one being filmed, and my objections to it.

What i'd said is not an implication of anything.

I agree w/ mattsmom81

Specializes in Med-Surg.
My issue with hidden cameras is patient privacy.

They could film me all they want to at work, because i do my job the way i'm supposed to, and that's that. But i feel that hidden cameras violate pt. privacy.

They can film me all they want to as well. I have nothing to hide. Just be open about it. Sometimes I'd like to have private converstions, or when I run into the breakroom stuffing my face with a donut in 2 seconds flat, I'd rather not be filmed. If I know I'm being filmed I won't be so piggish about it. :rotfl:

Seriously, I don't mind being filmed, but why be secretative?

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Some people (note i said SOME did not say all) might change their actions if they know they're being filmed.

Don't some states have laws against this sort of thing?

After working nights I often change into street clothes in the break room. I don't even go to the market in uniform.

One employee tests glucose and may inject insulin.

Specializes in MS Home Health.

Irritating.

renerian

...."Protection of the staff".........."They weren't yet turned on"........"We had signs to post and we were too busy".......Oh give me a break here!!! When I go back to work, I'm checking the clocks!!...........But they were in the break room???????? Tell me, who in the heck has TIME to take a break????

Yes, I know that 'big brother' is here, but I don't buy this 'cock-n-bull' story about wanting to protect us. We have battery clocks in all the patients rooms.....what next, 'protecting' the patients?? Well, I must admit that that is a very real thing, protecting our patients, but does the word INVASION OF PRIVACY mean anything anymore???

If the big corps would start treating their nurses, techs, etc better, they would find that THAT IS THE ULTIMATE FORM OF PROTECTION in the workplace.

Specializes in ICU,ER.

I don't know where else to put this but it does involve cameras and privacy. We have had a huge influx of visitors bringing camera phones into our hospital and specifically into our surgery holding area while they wait with their loved one to go to the OR. Patients get their cute blue bonnet on and all of a sudden, mom and dad want a pic---they whip out the camera phone and snap a pic before you can say "cheese". My hospital has strict rules concerning no cell phones in ICU & ER but none in the OR holding. My NM doesn't seem to think this is all that serious because patients are separated by curtains (which are only closed on 2 sides if at all). My worry is that its going to take someone filing a HIPPA violation complaint and until that happens my hospital doesn't thinks its a problem.

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