Published Dec 21, 2014
taylor92
54 Posts
Hello!
It has been a while since I have posted, but I am stuck in a predicament. I was accepted to Chamberlain College of Nursing in Phoenix, and was looking forward to starting in January. I am all set to start there. However, Friday night I got an email I had been anticipating for over a year. I finally got placed into the GateWay community college 4 semester traditional nursing program, also starting Spring 2015. I am now trying to decide what option will be better for me. Chamberlain costs an arm and a leg, but I will get done and have a BSN in 2 and a half years. GateWay is much more affordable, however I would only be getting my RN, and would need to continue on to get my BSN anyway. I have also had the question in the back of my mind, is Chamberlain really a recognized school? I wondered if a hospital would hire a university grad over a Chamberlain grad, so this thought also worries me. I do not know what to do! If anyone could give me some sort of insight or advice, it would be GREATLY appreciated! I just do not know which path to take!!!
TheCommuter, BSN, RN
102 Articles; 27,612 Posts
My advice is probably going to go against the more popular grain, but I advise you to attend the community college and abandon your plans of attending Chamberlain.
A general rule of thumb is to never borrow more student loan money than you'll reasonably expect to earn in one year. The last time I looked, the tuition for Chamberlain's BSN program cost in the $80k to $85k range. RNs do not start at $85k in Phoenix, regardless of what you've been told. In addition, your student loan repayments will be in the $1,000+ range per month for the next 10 years.
Save yourself some financial heartache by attending the community college.
is Chamberlain really a recognized school?
Thank you for your response. I had a friend also told me that hospitals are not even hiring RNs at all anymore? My other thought was possibly getting a job as an RN in a hospital after graduation as I do the online RN-BSN program through one of Arizona's universities. I will not be working when I am in the program because I want to be dedicated and focused on nursing school, however if it is true that hospitals do not hire RNs, that will put me out of work for another year until I am able to complete the RN-BSN portion. Is it true that hospitals are not hiring RNs anymore? I find this odd, I know they are hired few and far between but if they weren't being hired, they wouldn't have just an RN program, right?
Is it true that hospitals are not hiring RNs anymore?
ASN degree holders who have passed NCLEX are RNs. BSN degree holders who have passed NCLEX are RNs. I have an ASN degree and I am a fully licensed RN according to the states where I have nursing licensure.
Perhaps you intended to ask if hospitals no longer hire ASN-educated RNs. The answer to this question is dependent on your geographic location. Many major city hospitals in the Northeast have resorted to BSN-only hiring, and the trend is true for some major West Coast cities.
MrChicagoRN, RN
2,605 Posts
Chamberlain is a legit, accredited school and has a good reputation, but more expensive. In 2.5 years you will be done, but in debt.
The community college will get you out there about 6 months sooner, with an ADN vs BSN, & much less debt.
You may also have more difficulty finding initial employment with the ADN. You can talk to both schools and request job placement rates. But you better hurry, only a few days before they shut down for winter break
mrsboots87
1,761 Posts
I would say to go to GWCC. Chamberlain has a pretty good rep in AZ and s properly accredited. But it is terribly expensive. Much more than you would expect to make in a year. Also, many hospitals do hire ADNs around here. In clinical, I would venture to say almost half the new grads I met had only their ADN. Some were going for their BSN and some were not. SOme were CNAs there, and some were not. So yes, you can still be an RN in a hospital with just an ADN. But it will help tremendously if you have a BSN.
To get your BSN would only take 1-2 semesters longer if going to gateway and be easily half the total cost. Through the MCCCD programs, NAU offers their RN-BSN classes startin block 3 as long as you are maintaining a 3.0 and passing your nursing core. There are 10 or 11 classes. You can take a couple in block 3 and a couple in block 4, you can even take them over summer. Then there are 3 that can only be taken after you have your RN, so depending on how many you complete while in the nursing program, you would have 1 to 2 semesters left after graduating. I know someone who took 2 classes in block three, one over summer, and 2 in block 4. She then took the rest over 2 semesters after graduation. Just something to think about.
Also, if you dont have your CNA, get it and try to work part time during the program. It does not guarantee a job after graduation, but it definitely helps and will at least usually get you interviewed for jobs. Good Luck
Oh, and like another said, hospitals all hire "RNs" because RN is a license not a degree. What you were trying to say was the difference between an ADN and a BSN trained RN. RN= Registered Nurse. Whether you are ADN or BSN, you take the same licensure exam and are and RN just the same. The difference is the amount of theory education behind your degree.
Wow! Thank you all so much for all of the information. Yes, I did mean the ADN vs the BSN, sorry for the confusion. I was concerned about time too, which is why I was leaning towards Chamberlain where I would earn a BSN, whereas GWCC I would have an ADN. I didn't know that NAU offered that RN-BSN option starting in Block 3. I will definitely look into that! I was interested in the CEP program, but once you are accepted you can't apply for it and I didn't want to defer from this opportunity. Do you know if ASU and GCU offer the same program that NAU offers starting in Block 3? I will most definitely be looking into this! Thank you everyone again!
KatRNStudent
31 Posts
Well, I was accepted into two BSN programs and one ADN program. Personally, where I live in the Midwest they are no longer hiring RN's with just their Associates degree. They want RN's with their Bachelor's degree OR they will hire an RN with just their Associates and making them sign agreements they will complete their BSN within a certain time frame. Hand's down I did not go the ADN.. I chose Chamberlain for the BSN program.. the accreditation's they have and the fact that every hospital around here takes Chamberlain grads. My own personal opinion is to really think long and hard.. do you want to get your RN and be very limited who will hire you.. or just go in for the two years and be complete.
kbrn2002, ADN, RN
3,930 Posts
Tough decision when you are accepted for both programs. I'd say it should boil down to the financials. Chamberlain is very expensive, you will be taking on a huge student loan obligation. Look into the ASN to BSN bridge programs in your area, it might take a little longer to get the BSN than if you went to Chamberlain but it will be much more affordable. You can also fast track it a bit by taking more of the general ed and pre-reqs for the bridge program while going through the ASN program. Check with an advisor for the ASN program to see if they have an affiliated bridge program that makes the process easier.
Red Kryptonite
2,212 Posts
Do you know if ASU and GCU offer the same program that NAU offers starting in Block 3? I will most definitely be looking into this! Thank you everyone again!
NAU, GCU, and ASU currently participate in the CEP program with Maricopa Community Colleges. I thought I heard something about U of PHX being added but don't know if that happened yet. GCU seems to be only the new MSN option though. Also mentioned in the link is Franklin Pierce University which I hadn't heard of before.
https://asa.maricopa.edu/departments/healthcare-education-at-the-maricopa-community/maricopanursing-programs/concurrent-enrollment-programs-cep
EternalFeather
103 Posts
I have been lectured by my professors and classmates about applying to the right nursing school.
You have to be careful with what school you register. You need to look at the accreditation.
Many fly-by schools (schools that arent community college or university) have no accreditation or the accreditation gets suspended every few or so years because their new graduates nclex pass rate fluctuate too much every year because they basically accept anyone into their program and charge expensive tuition unlike the competitive community colleges and state unversities.
If i were you, Id apply to the community college because the tuition is cheaper or if youre going to apply to a fly-by nursing school like chamberlain, why not apply to a private legit university? the tuition is basically no different.
Just make sure you do your research. Graduate schools and some employers look at the accreditation of the schools an applying candidate came from. graduate from a school with Longer maintained, unsuspended accreditation = better chances of being accepted.