A new case study in which the patient, H.T. an 82-year-old Hispanic man presents to his primary care clinic with cough, malaise and confusion. How well do you know your way around a cough?
Updated:
Provided by caregiver: "My grandfather is confused and pretty sick. He was up most of the night coughing.”
H.T. is an 82-year-old Hispanic male who is widowed and a retired grocery store owner. His 28-year-old granddaughter lives with him. He uses a walker and takes daily walks in the neighborhood with her. He can perform most ADLs, but his granddaughter prepares his meals. He presents to the clinic with his caregiver who reports that about a week ago, Mr. T. came down with a cold and had a runny, stuffy nose. He visited the curandero and has been drinking gordolobo tea with honey, lemon and a generous dollop of tequila. He appeared to be getting better, but then several days ago he developed a cough. Over the last two days, the cough has become worse and he can't seem to catch his breath. He was confused last night and nearly fell getting out of bed.
The patient's age is consistent with that reported. He is well-groomed and neat, uses a walker for ambulation and walks with a pronounced limp. He is lethargic, frail and thin oriented to self only. Patient is coughing and using accessory muscles to breathe. Appears uncomfortable and in moderate respiratory distress.
(+) for HTN and cancer, (-) for CAD, asthma, DM
Penicillin (rash)
Okay, super sleuths, what are all the possible reasons for a cough? What's causing his confusion? I think the most fun way to play is to imagine you only get 5 questions. With that limit in mind, what information could you ask for that would give you the most information for a diagnosis? What labs do you want? What other diagnostic tests should we run? Ask me some questions!
UPDATE ON MR. T!
Your first order of business is to tell the granddaughter to have Mr. T stop taking the tea, or at least to leave out the Tequila!
Use https://www.drugs.com/interaction/list/ to check drug interactions. Noting that ETOH can cause BP to drop when taken with atenolol and HCTZ. ETOH and aripiprazole can cause dizziness, confusion and drowsiness and of course taking ETOH with ASA can irritate the lining of the stomach and increase the risk for stomach ulcers.
Gordolobo tea is made with Mullein flowers. You can read more about it here https://www.drugs.com/npc/mullein.html
There isn’t a lot of information out there about interactions, dosing or side effects and minimal scientific support that it works.
Review of Systems: only abnormal values presented
Vital signs:
Laboratory Test Results:
Arterial Blood Gas
Imaging: Chest X-ray shows consolidation of inferior and superior segments of RLL and LLL. Developing consolidation of RUL and LUL
Pleural effusion (-)
Heart size WNL
Sputum analysis: Gram stain: TooNumerousToCount/TNTC neutrophils, some epithelial cells, negative for microbes
Try this algorithm for respiratory problems: https://accessmedicine.mhmedical.com/content.aspx?bookid=1088§ionid=61697703
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Mr. T has community acquired pneumonia (CAP), but what kind? How severe is it? Does he need to go to the hospital?
Refresher - pneumonia is a common lung infection where alveoli become inflamed. They can fill with fluid, pus, and cellular debris. It can be caused by viruses, fungi, or bacteria, but it looks like Mr. T. has bacterial pneumonia, the most common type of CAP.
The two most common causes of pneumonia are bacteria and viruses. The flu is one of the most common causes of viral pneumonia in adults, though post-flu complications can also cause bacterial pneumonia. Viral pneumonia is more likely to affect healthy people with strong immune systems. Bacterial pneumonia can be more aggressive and difficult to treat than viral pneumonia. In bacterial pneumonia, there will likely be a much more visible presence of fluid in the lungs than viral pneumonia. Bacterial pneumonia is also more likely to enter the blood stream and infect other parts of the body.
You may have read that you can tell what pathogen you’re infected with by the color of the mucus. White means a cold, yellow or green are bacterial, but that’s actually not true. Both viral and bacterial upper respiratory infections can cause similar changes to the type and coloration of nasal mucus. During a common cold, nasal mucus may start out watery and clear, then become progressively thicker and opaque, with a yellow or green tinge.
The timing of symptoms may offer a clue as to the type of germs present. Thick, colored nasal mucus more often occurs at the beginning of a bacterial illness, rather than several days into it, as occurs with a viral infection. In addition, symptoms due to a bacterial infection often last more than 10 days without improvement.
In a few cases, a bacterial infection may develop on top of a viral cold, in which case symptoms may get better and then worse again. Under these circumstances, an antibiotic may lessen the severity of symptoms and shorten the duration of the illness.
Try this tool to answer: the Pneumonia Severity of Illness site will calculate mortality risk and hospitalization recommendation.
https://www.mdcalc.com/psi-port-score-pneumonia-severity-index-cap
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References
This patient has pneumococcal pneumonia caused by Streptococcus pneumonia.
The most common symptoms of bacterial pneumonia are:
Other symptoms that may follow include:
Older adults will share all the symptoms with younger adults but are much more likely to experience confusion and dizziness. Older adults may also be less likely to have a fever.
Bacteria pneumonia is caused by bacteria that works its way into the lungs and then multiplies. It can occur on its own or develop after another illness, like a cold or the flu.
Streptococcus pneumonia is the leading cause of bacterial pneumonia. It can enter your lungs through inhalation or through your bloodstream. There is a vaccination for this type.
Haemophilus influenzae is the second most common cause of bacterial pneumonia. This bacterium may live in your upper respiratory tract. It doesn’t usually cause harm or illness unless you have a weakened immune system.
Other bacteria that can cause pneumonia include:
Environmental and lifestyle risk factors
People over the age of 65 and children 2 and younger are at a higher risk for developing pneumonia. Pneumonia for these groups can be life-threatening.
How is bacterial pneumonia diagnosed?
Most cases can be treated at home with antibiotics. A healthy person may recover within one to three weeks. Someone with a weakened immune system may take longer.
Some cases of bacterial pneumonia will require hospitalization for treatment. Young children and the elderly are more likely to need intravenous antibiotics and rehydration as well as respiratory therapy.
Without treatment, pneumonia may develop into:
Bacterial pneumonia itself is not contagious, but the infection that caused bacterial pneumonia is contagious. It can spread through coughs, sneezes, and contamination on objects. Practicing good hygiene can help prevent the spread of pneumonia or the risk of catching it.
Here are the responses from members who came to the Admin Help Desk to submit their diagnoses for the 4th Case Study Investigation (CSI): What's Causing This Cough?.
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QuoteCOPD exacerbation due to Pneumonia?
QuoteMy guess for the diagnosis for the article "What's causing this cough?" is pneumonia with sepsis.
QuoteURI progressing to Exac COPD with pneumonia -? aspiration pneumonia, failure to thrive as underweight. Needs homecare referral for followup education meds, disease process.
QuoteDiagnosis guess pneumonia complicate by respiratory alkalosis
emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B
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All of the above. Add a cmp. If he was febrile, draw lactate & procalcitonin.