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Doctors seek better shopping cart design

By LINDSEY TANNER, AP Medical Writer

Mon Aug 7, 12:53 AM ET

CHICAGO - With more than 24,000 U.S. children treated for shopping cart-related injuries last year, the American Academy of Pediatrics says better designs and stricter government regulation are needed.

Most injuries occur when children aren't strapped in and fall while standing in carts. But many shopping carts are designed with a high center of gravity, making them prone to tipping over even when children are properly placed in the seating area, said Dr. Gary Smith, chairman of an academy committee that wrote the new policy.

Falls onto hard grocery store floors can result in head and neck injuries, and fractures also are common, according to the policy published Monday in the August edition of Pediatrics.

Many injuries involve concussions and are life-threatening, said Smith, an emergency room physician at Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio and director of the Center for Injury Research and Policy there.

"Because of that, and because we don't have a standard that adequately addresses the major mechanisms of injury, the best we can do is to caution parents that these injuries are very real, they're very frequent, and if you have a possible alternative" to standard shopping carts, use it, he said.

Alternatives include strollers, wagons, and carts some stores provide that have plastic mini-cars or trucks attached to the front, allowing children to ride much closer to the ground.

Dawn Tolan, a Columbus, Ohio, woman whose 2-year-old daughter fell from a shopping cart in April, said the new policy is needed to make parents aware of the dangers.

Tolan said her daughter, Ellie, stood up in a cart and fell to the floor on her head just as she reached for the child. Hospital tests revealed no serious injuries, but Tolan said the accident "has definitely changed the way I shop."

Now she avoids stores that don't have carts with mini-cars.

According to the academy, about 23,000 U.S. children are treated in emergency rooms for shopping cart-related injuries each year. Last year the total was about 24,200, including 20,700 injuries in children younger than 5.

Smith said injury experts have been aware of the problem for at least 30 years, but no industry standard was adopted until 2004. It is only voluntary, doesn't require specific designs and lacks "clear and effective performance criteria" to address cart stability and prevent falls and tip-overs, the academy policy says.

State and federal laws should be enacted to require minimum safety standards for shopping carts, according to the policy.

In the meantime, pediatricians should warn patients and parents about the dangers, it says.

Children should not be left unattended or allowed to stand up in shopping carts, and shouldn't be allowed to ride in the main grocery basket of the cart or on the outside, the policy says. Seat-belts and other restraints should be worn at all times in the cart, it advises.

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission issued a similar safety alert in May. CPSC spokeswoman Patty Davis said the agency shares pediatricians' concerns, but added: "Our mandate from Congress is to pursue voluntary standards before we take a mandatory route."

Dr. Joseph Russell, a Plainfield, Ill., pediatrician who has treated several children with shopping cart injuries, said he worked with an engineer to create a prototype in which the child's seat area is much closer to the bottom of the basket, making the cart less likely to tip over.

Russell is trying to get manufacturers interested in the design.

"Even if you use a safety strap, it doesn't address the center of gravity," Russell said. "If the child is strapped in and the cart tips over, where is the benefit?"

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Sounds like stupid parents!!!! I can't believe that there were 24,000 shopping cart related injuries!!!! I think maybe rather than redesigning shopping carts there needs to be some parental re-designing. Typical of today's society, let's not blame the real culprit, just make some new rules. :uhoh3: :smackingf :banghead: :selfbonk:

Specializes in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc.

I heard this on the news and just cracked up! I was like OH MY GOD you are serious????

It reminds me of when I was young threads! LOL, all the run we have had on this forum discussing how things were different and we didn't die or suffer life long conditions! Like my parents buying the top of the line childs seat that was made of WOOD and STEEL! One fender bender and I really could have been toast!

Or the fact that I rode a bike through heck and back without a helmet and survived to tell the tale with no chronic injury!

OR the fact my dad owned a Pinto, the one you could hit in the back and it would explode and no one recalled them, or even forked out the cost of the washer it would take to fix that probelm!!!

Or the fact my home as an infant had NO drawer clips, electric outlet safety covers, no baby gates, and a toybox that was so tall that if I fell in there was no getting out! Or the fact my toys could be swollowed, or my Mr. Potato head had a PIPE! OH gasp!!!!!!!

Please...I think the focus should be more on parental responsiblity. Heck most of these carts have seatbelts...lets use them! Or take time to teach children how to sit in one without getting injured, and perhaps get a treat if they sit down with no standing! You know..the things OUR parents did! LOL!!!!! (well I didn't get a treat...I just didn't get spanked! LOL!).

These things just remind me of how stupid some professionals or politicians feel John Q. Public is in GENERAL, especially parents...like without changing things to stop injuries that all our children will die!~ I mean grantid, we in healthcare see some very...ummmm...dynamic characters in our days...but sheesh...not everyone needs to walk around with padded walls or curved edges on everything to assure public safety!

WOW..went a little soap box didn't I...LOL!

Anyway...back to sitting in a chair that I could fall out of and injure myself, on a desk that has corners I could hit, and type on a computer that has small parts that may flip up and choke me! LOL!!!!!!!!

Specializes in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc.

Oh yeah..and I was listening to a radio show that was discussing this...and get this, another group is complaining that homeless people that are allowed to have these may be harming their backs and joints because they have to push/pull/lift these in order to travel with them!!!!!!!

Shall we design them for kids for safety and better center of gravity, and re-design them for homeless people (they are donated to them in some cities as humainitarian aide) who may get injured by more center of gravity on their back/joints???????

Specializes in ER, Teaching, HH, CM, QC, OB, LTC.

triagern_34,

i think we grew-up in the same neighborhood ??? or maybe our parents went to the same parenting prep class .... lol ;)

i agree with the mother who said that if she felt something was unsafe she keep her chid from it.

amen!

let's keep the government out of this before we are buying eletric scooters for the homless... and 1:1 monitors for shopper with small children that don't have alternative carts!!!!!!!!!!!

Specializes in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc.

AMEN fgoff, and yes..we may have grown up in the same neighborhood...did you get a spank if you even EVEN asked for some candy from that sneeky candy section between the check out line! Oh man...I didn't even LOOK or I would get it! LOL!!!!!!!

I agree with that mom too! It is a parental responsiblity..and she chooses not to risk it...kudos!

Heck, when my son was little, and he is still a wandering kind...well I would put him in the seat, buckle him in, and have him hold a non breakable or injury item like bread and gave him the job of keeping it safe! That kept him in his seat! If he didn't and the bread got squished...oh no, boo boo time...no punishment...just oh oh!

I know that my child can unstrap herself in one second flat from ANY grocery cart................it isn't all 'stupid' parenting................

What consequences would you impose if your child did unstrap herself?

Wow...surprised at all the petty remarks here....

My older sister has a 2 1/2 year old and a 3 1/2 month old...she was carrying the 2 1/2 year old (too feisty to put in a cart), and had the 3 1/2 month old in her car seat/carrier thing on the top of the cart , over the front part where older kids sit (there is even a groove carved into car seats so that they fit on here...they are MEANT to go there). As she pushed the cart out of the store, the cart caught a wheel and catapulted the baby in the corificeat headfirst onto the pavement. Luckily, the handle on the carrier was sticking up and it hit the ground, so the baby was not hurt at all, but it was a terrifying experience, and not really preventable, other than by not having used the cart and putting the carrier up there (even though they are intended to fit there). Not bag parenting, just really bad luck. It is obvious there is a problem here, with the statistics in that article. Maybe trying to fix it would be better than mocking it??

Wow...surprised at all the petty remarks here....

My older sister has a 2 1/2 year old and a 3 1/2 month old...she was carrying the 2 1/2 year old (too feisty to put in a cart), and had the 3 1/2 month old in her car seat/carrier thing on the top of the cart , over the front part where older kids sit (there is even a groove carved into car seats so that they fit on here...they are MEANT to go there). As she pushed the cart out of the store, the cart caught a wheel and catapulted the baby in the corificeat headfirst onto the pavement. Luckily, the handle on the carrier was sticking up and it hit the ground, so the baby was not hurt at all, but it was a terrifying experience, and not really preventable, other than by not having used the cart and putting the carrier up there (even though they are intended to fit there). Not bag parenting, just really bad luck. It is obvious there is a problem here, with the statistics in that article. Maybe trying to fix it would be better than mocking it??

Your description about the grooved place in the front of the cart designed to cradle an infant carrier piqued my interest. I've never seen that before....but, on the other hand, I've commonly seen carts that have infant seats permanently attached to that top-spot. They're part of the seat, actually look alot like something you'd sit on in an airport (swoopy blue plastic) but with safety belts (5 point, like car seat).

Do you have those? At least, since it's a part of the cart, it isn't catapulting! Must have been frightening as hell.

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Mine managed to flip backwards out of one. I figured we were ok since I was stopped unloading the groceries. I found out different. Twice in the past month he's also managed to get his arm caught between the metal bars on the front of the buggy. Two different stores. I don't like those big car buggies because they are nearly impossible to move the way you want them to go. They are also wider than normal so you take up more aisle space. I'd like to see better safety belts and a requirement that they be maintained. I have seen many buggies missing half a belt or missing a snap.

Yep, there are consequences but there is no 100% when you are dealing with a child.

Specializes in Cardiac, Post Anesthesia, ICU, ER.

I suppose maybe I'm the exception, but my little girl is IN her corificeat buckled in before I unload groceries, same routine when my wife is with her. And yes, I've seen the arrangement for the baby carrier, but it seemed to me that we usually would set the carrier in the main area, and stack stuff around it. Again, no insult to any of those here who've experienced such an episode, but I don't think the problem is related to the carts.

Specializes in LTC/Behavioral/ Hospice.

I've had my own experience with a tipping cart with my child in it. It scared the heck out of me! I can't believe that 24,000 injuries (and that is only the ones that are reported!) is all bad parenting. I am not in support of government interference, but I would be all for carts that don't tip so easily! There are some styles of carts that I just plain avoid now because I know how unstable they are. Thank goodness my son is now able to walk for quite awhile. When he gets tired, the trip is over.

Specializes in ICU, ER, HH, NICU, now FNP.
I suppose maybe I'm the exception, but my little girl is IN her corificeat buckled in before I unload groceries, same routine when my wife is with her. And yes, I've seen the arrangement for the baby carrier, but it seemed to me that we usually would set the carrier in the main area, and stack stuff around it. Again, no insult to any of those here who've experienced such an episode, but I don't think the problem is related to the carts.

Actually - I leave my child in the cart while I unload - carjackings with the child being taken along with the car are not uncommon around these parts - happened to a friend of mine while she was pumping gas, her 9 month old baby was taken in her car by a carjacker who walked up behind her, clocked her over the head and took off in her car. Thanks to an incredible PD the child was recovered 9 minutes later, but the hell she went through can't even be described.

I don't pump gas with my kid in the car anymore either :( I make it a point to go when I don't when I don't have him with me.

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