Can you bring your family

Silverdragon102, BSN · Nov 18, 2008

Hi THere
Well your knowledge on the NCLEX is not bad ,and many thanks for your help; but I must correct you on a couple of areas if I may; the H1- B e was a previous cycle of alloted work visas from the past like was the HI-A; In 2007 it evolved into the H1-C work visa according to my immigration attorney out of arizona and yes you are correct that they usually come up for application by the immi attorney for their required numbers from the lottery around each april,that's what I meant by cycle;and yes you may be dead on target regarding the allocation numbers;and the country of elegibility may be also important wth regard to greencard lotteries, but the north of ireland is an exception in the uk,.
Now I was informed that even the south of Ireland which traditionaly favoured well with the previous lotteries of greencards applications is like with that of England, out of the running favourites this year of 2008.
Now there are exceptional cases for such specialized nurses,and I have forgotten the current tag for these;But it might well be the HI-C visa since the criterion has under the clinton administration been upgraded eliminating past inferior creditials.
But I am lead to believe that it may possible to just apply for a greencard if one is from the north of ireland and keep it simple.
You have raised a very important issue, and whilst you might be well informed,and somethings are not swinging; the state board from what I understand is to test the competency of nurses coming into work as a nurse to the us in that particular state under their unique conditions and requirements.
It would, if my contact is correct, test the level of knowledge of those nurses who have degree's regardless of how many years their degrees are;
That may render three year degrees equal to four year degrees if such claims are true.
It is'nt really important as the State board test rectifies that problem given that is what it is supposed to do in the first place.
Now , you say that there are no such things as the state boards tests, I must also recheck this along with the other information you say is no longer pertinent;You have put me in the picture alot, especially with the information that conflicts with I am lead to believe, so It is time for recheck;
In fact, I ask myself has all this info I gained only a year ago really changed that much.
Once again many thanks for this brainstorming recheck, and please feel free to check anything I have believed was the case.
I really do appreciate the knowledge from nurses.
I will , thanks to you once again, get current updates on this.
But I will be impressed if what you say about the subject of the state board is no longer , as it was only a year ago in the state of az , I was informed the two must be attained, one the NCLEX and the other was the state board, each for their own reasons.
You seem to say that the NCLEX has replaced the State Board's contents to streamline them:typing.
Much confusion, if this is all true,then all has changed in one year.

Your immigration lawyer is the one that is confused. H1c is only for nurses in certain areas (only 14 hospitals have that honour) and usually areas that they find hard to employ local nurse probably due to issues like where the hospital is situated and security/safety.

H1b is something totally different

Looking at countries not accepted for the GC lottery and Ireland isn't mentioned as being exempt http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/T1026V-DV-2010bulletin(3).pdf

H1b

The US H1B visa is a non-immigrant visa, which allows a US company to employ a foreign individual for up to six years. As applying for a non-immigration visa is generally quicker than applying for a US Green Card, staff required on long-term assignment in the US are often initially brought in using a non-immigrant visa such as the H1B visa.

http://www.workpermit.com/us/us_h1b.htm

H1c

The petition must include an “attestation” which has been reviewed and stamped as approved by the Department of Labor. (There is no USCIS adjudicative role in the attestation process, we merely verify that it contains the DOL stamp.) An attestation for purposes of an H-1C petition is a guarantee signed by the facility which will employ the registered nurse that:

• The facility is located in a “health shortage area” and is otherwise “qualified” as defined in section 212(m)(6) of the Act;

• The proposed H-1C employment will have no adverse effect on wages and working conditions of nurses at the facility;

• The wages offered to H-1C nurses are the same as those offered to U.S. citizen or resident alien nurses at the facility;

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=06077402d4db5aa9d3b61021d24804cb

As mentioned NCLEX is a national exam and everyone who wants to work as a nurse in the US has to sit and pass it. It has taken the place of the state boards

allnurses Guide · Nov 18, 2008

Ireland (as a birthplace) is not exempt for the diversity visa lottery, but Northern Ireland is.

The only board exam is the NCLEX, and this has not changed in the past year but several years ago. There is no other "state board" exam.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Nov 18, 2008

Seamusglas, just wondering what nurse training and what experience do you have?

H1c visa is only for 3 years and can not be renewed. Even if you go this route at the moment you can not adjust your visa to GC and stay. With retrogression only I140 can be filed so if your 3 years are up and PD doesn't match yours ie your PD is later than what is being processed then you will have to leave the US and wait.

H1b is applicable to some nurses and they must meet H1b requirements and can only be renewed to 6 years and again if you have applied for GC and your PD is not in date then you will have to leave.

Also wondering why you are looking at H1 route when you do not appear to have applied for licensure and passed NCLEX?

suzanne4, RN · Nov 19, 2008

The H1-C visa is only offered by 14 facilities out of the entire US. It is not found all over and there are also very strict requirements as well. There is no cycle with the H1-C, there are only 500 out at any one time. And one must pass the NCLEX-RN exam for the specific state where the facility is as well as have a Visa Screen Certificate in hand before one can apply for these temporary work visas. That will take you to next summer or close to it to get all of this done. The H1-C visas are set to expire in 2010 and we do not expect them to be renewed. All is pointing in that very direction.

Even with the 14 facilities that are able to use the H1-C, for several of them, we have not seen them use it in more than 18 months. The H1-B visa is under a cycle and applications are submitted in April for a start the following October. But these are quite limited and have very strict rules for them. The US government is actually going thru and reevaluating each and every one as they were supposed to go to specialists and only 11% have been issued as such.

Also be very aware that if one penny is paid to the attorney by you for one of these temporary visas, then it is automatically denied by immigration. Major requirement is that 100% be paid by the employer and they do check up on this.

What a do find quite odd is that all of us are very aware of how the H1-B and the H1-C work and have worked for sometime; but it is you that is coming here and telling us that we have no idea of anything, but your one attorney does. That makes me question lots of things that you have posted. And be aware that with these temporary visas, sure the family can come, but they cannot get a visa that will permit them to work in any way. They can come only as dependents and most spouses are not going to enjoy that. It is one thing not to have to work, but when you are told that you cannot, that makes things quite different.

Best of luck to you, you are going to need it. I would highly recommend that you spend sometime reading on this forum and you will find that I do know what I am speaking about.

jayden · Nov 20, 2008

hi.. i read this thread and silvergragon mentioned that a few hospitals use h1b visa to hire foreign nurses to work in the us. i would like to ask if you have a list of these hospitals and if you may post them in here... thanks:nurse:

Silverdragon102, BSN · Nov 20, 2008

hi.. i read this thread and silvergragon mentioned that a few hospitals use h1b visa to hire foreign nurses to work in the us. i would like to ask if you have a list of these hospitals and if you may post them in here... thanks:nurse:

It isn't a matter of posting the hospitals, H1b is a specialist visa and most nurses do not meet requirements and they are more than often used for other specialities like IT. Even if you go to the US on a H1b you can not adjust status

suzanne4, RN · Nov 21, 2008

And for the original poster to this thread:

Not sure if you have seen the list of the 14 facilities out of the entire US that are even permitted to offer the H1-C visa; you will find that there is not one listing for any facility in Arizona.

H1-C visa also does not have a lottery system, that also shows that you are speaking of the H1-B visa as well.

But the bigger issue is that you must have an actual license in hand as well as the Visa Screen Certificate and that is going to be impossible to have done by April. Other issue is that an employer cannot even offer a job until one has passed the NCLEX-RN exam and has proof of passing. And you have not started the process as of yet, you do not even know if your credentials will meet US requirements for licensure as a start.

Please take the time to do some reading on this site, and use the search engine that we have here, there is much information that you need to be aware of; and it was written by nurses that are aware of what is happening with nursing here in the US.

Also would advise that you take the time to read the Primer that can be found in a sticky at the top of this forum, there is much there that will answer all of your questions. And it contains information that you truly need to know.

seamusglas · Nov 21, 2008

Not sure if you have done anything with even applying for licensure to a state BON in order to get permission to sit for our licensing exam; but you need to be aware of the fact that it is usually four months plus before you will get permission. And then add in the time of taking the test and waiting for the results and having to get a Visa Screen Certificate that is needed in hand for any of the temporary visas and there is almost no way that you would make the deadline of the first of April with having all of that done for the H1-B.
Noticed that you have a couple of posts buried in threads about the NCLEX exam; it is a licensing exam for the US and we have always had one. And it is not an exam to test English skills at all. If anything the CGFNS exam does more of that. The majority of countries actually have licensing exams, many more do than do not. All that wish to work in the US as an RN, even if they are American and trained here, must write and pass this exam to get registered in the state that they wish to work in.
I would highly recommend that you take the time and read some of the stickies on this forum to get information that you need to have that is correct and not what a friend of a friend told you. If the attorney is actually an immigration attorney there is no waiting to check on the cycle of the H1-B visas. It is a very well known fact that the lottery applications are every April with a start date in October. But again, unless you already hold a four year University degree, then you will not meet the basic requirement to even qualify for this visa. And the attorney should have informed you of that as well. The visa also requires that one is a specialist in their field as well and not a relatively new grad either. The US government is currently reviewing each and every H1-B visa as many went out to people that were not qualified for them in terms of work experience and being a specialist in their field.

Suzanne, what is an MSN, BON, and on the visa requiremnet, you are correct I believe, but I believe according to my attorney, there are exceptions to the 4 yr degree if the nurse falls into a higher desireable category.

Many thanks

5cats · Nov 21, 2008

Master of Science in Nursing

Board of Nursing (State Board of Nursing)

5cats

suzanne4, RN · Nov 21, 2008

Suzanne, what is an MSN, BON, and on the visa requiremnet, you are correct I believe, but I believe according to my attorney, there are exceptions to the 4 yr degree if the nurse falls into a higher desireable category.
Many thanks

Your attorney has already given you considerable amount of incorrect information as a start. Next thing that you may not be aware of is the fact that with the H1-B visa, the expenses for the attorney as well as other associated fees must be paid for 100% for the employer. Anything paid for by the nurse and the visa is automatically denied. I would listen first to what we are telling you here, not what they are telling you. I can assume that they have not done much work with nurses if they are telling you about the H1-C, that has no hospital able to use that in AZ as well as the specific requirements for the H1-B. And that your spouse will be unable to do anything in the US, other than remain at home or care for your children.

You need to even see if your credentials are accepted first for licensure in the US, I would focus on that; before worrying about anything else.

The other concern is that most facilities in AZ do not employ under the H1-B visa either. It takes a full-time staff of three to handle all of the paperwork. And just because an attorney files the documents for it, it most certainly does not guarantee that one will get the visa.

You have still not answered some questions that were posed to you in a previous post here, such as what experience do you actually have as well as which documented certifications? Without knowing what your specialty is one cannot give a viable answer to your question.

I actually lived and work in AZ for years so I am well aware of almost every facility in that state. Again, I would recommend that you spend sometime reading here before doing a thing; there is much information that you do not know but are expected and responsible to know before you start with anything. Same would go for any nurse wishing to work in any other country. You are not going to be able to get the requirements completed to be submitted in April for next year; it is not feasibly possible. You do not have enough time, no matter what anyone may have promised to you.

Start first with the Primer at the top of this forum, all of your questions would have been answered there.

seamusglas · Dec 2, 2008

As long as the family members are included in your application (DS230) then you can take them with you once you get a work visa. Currently depending on where you was born depends on how many years it will take for you to be processed and receive a work visa, look for threads on retrogression. If the children are aged over 21 then there will be issues and they can not go at the same time as you. Due to retrogression expect to see more and more employers looking for experience not just before but whilst waiting for the move. Orientation well that will depend on you and the hospital
Moved to the International forum and retitled

Would you please clarify what is a thread and what is a post, and where do you find retrogression.

I thought a post was the same as an email.and perhaps a thread [similiar to as in writing a novel would constitute a thread.

If I am mistaken I would be infinitely grateful if you could at last clear up this one ambiguios little puzzle.

So if I move to the international forum,why would you want me to retitle quote,and how do I do this, many thanks for your assitance Suzanne. :uhoh3: :uhoh3: :bugeyes: :bowingpur

Silverdragon102, BSN · Dec 2, 2008

Would you please clarify what is a thread and what is a post, and where do you find retrogression.
I thought a post was the same as an email.and perhaps a thread [similiar to as in writing a novel would constitute a thread.
If I am mistaken I would be infinitely grateful if you could at last clear up this one ambiguios little puzzle.
So if I move to the international forum,why would you want me to retitle quote,and how do I do this, many thanks for your assitance Suzanne.:uhoh3::bowingpur

A post is a comment made by you whether it is a question or a reply to something that has been asked. This, that I am replying to, is a post and my reply is a post. A thread is a collection of posts (this collection of posts is a thread). Your initial post 'Can you bring family' is the start of this thread and people post after it with replies/questions/comments.

the website has many forums covering many subjects and if a staff member feels that your thread/question would be better suited to another forum to gain the more appropriate answers then it is moved. The same can be said if members notice it and felt it would be better somewhere else then they report it using the red triangle top right of the post with a suggestion to which forum it needs moving to. Only staff members can move threads/posts. In the same way only staff members can retitle a thread so if you say make a spelling mistake in the title and you have already submitted it you can ask a staff member to retitle either by reporting it or sending a private message(PM) requesting change.

Any questions regarding registration and immigration to another country we request is posted in the International forum and if no one can answer usually it has been asked before and using the search facility you can look for previous threads/posts asking similar question using keywords. The search facility is easy to use and you have option of searching just the one forum, several forums or the whole site

Hope this helps to clear some things up