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seamusglas seamusglas (Member)

I need to know from someone out there if a foreign nurse who wanted to come to work as a nurse in the USA would be able to bring children into the country along with her spouse on the strength of a nurse work visa.Is there an orientation period for such nurses.Do new foreign nurses whom wish to work in he usa need to be of a certain experience level or would newly qualified nurses who have recently completed their nursing degrees meet adequate requirements.

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 32 years experience.

As long as the family members are included in your application (DS230) then you can take them with you once you get a work visa. Currently depending on where you was born depends on how many years it will take for you to be processed and receive a work visa, look for threads on retrogression. If the children are aged over 21 then there will be issues and they can not go at the same time as you. Due to retrogression expect to see more and more employers looking for experience not just before but whilst waiting for the move. Orientation well that will depend on you and the hospital

Moved to the International forum and retitled

seamusglas,

Additional information:

1.Spouse and unmarried children (21 yrs old and below) can accompany you or follow to join you at a later date (as long as their visas are still valid) when they are included in your DS230 form as Silverdragon has mentioned.

2. For children who are more than 21 yrs old, they will have to be petitioned by you under the Family based category F2B after you received your green card. The waiting line in terms of years for F2B category is 8 years for Rest of the World, China and India while its 11 yrs for Philippines and 16 yrs for Mexico based on the current Visa Bulletin.

3. For marrried children, you can only petition them after you become a US citizen under the Family based F3 category. They in turn will be able to bring their spouse and children(age 21 yrs old below and unmarried). The waiting line for this F3 category is the same for F2B category except for Philippines which is 17 years.

ghillbert, MSN, NP

Specializes in CTICU. Has 20 years experience.

With retrogression, you can't even bring yourself!

:bugeyes:

With retrogression, you can't even bring yourself!

Hi There, okay what is retrogression,and what do you mean that'one cannot even take themselves'' many thanx for your help, Ghcss

There are no visas available for one to come to the US and work as an RN. There are no green cards and no way to get the visa at this time. That is why it was stated that you cannot even bring yourself.

There are no visas available for one to come to the US and work as an RN. There are no green cards and no way to get the visa at this time. That is why it was stated that you cannot even bring yourself.

HI there, Suzanne I hope, firstly many thanks for your reponse,and yes you maybe correct, but the operative clause you mentioned was that there are no work visas at the moment; but what I omitted to mention, was that I have immigration attorneys through a friend in the states who have an eye on the ground when the cycle of HI-C visas I believe come around.

I believe it is based on an allotments,and which country is in line.Immigration favours the bold,in this case Ireland and especially the north,with the south now and again.

She is a different animal than her southern sister. But please feel free to communicate with me again regarding this topic.

Would you know how long the NCLEX test takes to do , and is there a trial test a nurse can do n order to get used to what are the conditions.

Tell me Suzanne, do you know much about the state board exams

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 32 years experience.

HI there, Suzanne I hope, firstly many thanks for your reponse,and yes you maybe correct, but the operative clause you mentioned was that there are no work visas at the moment; but what I omitted to mention, was that I have immigration attorneys through a friend in the states who have an eye on the ground when the cycle of HI-C visas I believe come around.

I believe it is based on an allotments,and which country is in line.Immigration favours the bold,in this case Ireland and especially the north,with the south now and again.

She is a different animal than her southern sister. But please feel free to communicate with me again regarding this topic.

Would you know how long the NCLEX test takes to do , and is there a trial test a nurse can do n order to get used to what are the conditions.

Tell me Suzanne, do you know much about the state board exams

There are no delays in getting a H1c so no need to wait for a cycle to come round. Only 14 hospitals have the status allowing them to use H1c and that is due for review in 2010 with no indication that that type of visa will be renewed. In which case if you have one and they do run out in 2010 and not renewed then you will have to leave the US

H1b is a specialist nurse and in most cases is capped and no guarantee that you will get one, also will be fighting for one along with many other types of specialists like IT. Mostly filed application in April and all have gone in hours. Very few hospitals now use H1b although there are some

Neither visas are not allocated on place of birth but go into one central pot.

GC is allocated by birth and currently processing times are varying from 200-2005 depending on place of birth. If born in in India or China then the wait is much longer than someone from the Philippines or rest of world except Mexico although they can use the TN visa. Visa bulletin will keep you up dated on what GC visas are being processed and allocated.

NCLEX is questions ranging from 75-265 and can take anything up to 6 hours.

HI there, Suzanne I hope, firstly many thanks for your reponse,and yes you maybe correct, but the operative clause you mentioned was that there are no work visas at the moment; but what I omitted to mention, was that I have immigration attorneys through a friend in the states who have an eye on the ground when the cycle of HI-C visas I believe come around.

I believe it is based on an allotments,and which country is in line.Immigration favours the bold,in this case Ireland and especially the north,with the south now and again.

She is a different animal than her southern sister. But please feel free to communicate with me again regarding this topic.

Would you know how long the NCLEX test takes to do , and is there a trial test a nurse can do n order to get used to what are the conditions.

Tell me Suzanne, do you know much about the state board exams

There is no such thing as a cycle with the H1-C visas; you have it mixed up with the H1-B visas. There are only 14 hospitals out of the entire US that can sponsor under the H1-C and there are only a total of 500 of them, they are not cyclical and we do not expect them to be renewed in 2010 as it is.

What you are speaking of is the H1-B visa and the next cycle is next April, but there are only 65,000 per year and the chances of getting one as an RN are quite slim. One also must possess a full year four year Bachelor's training to even meet the requirements for either of these temporary work visas. Most from your country only have the three year and that will not work. Also having an attorney look at things for you is completely useless for this type of visa, it requires an employer start things as well.

And yes, I know much about the NCLEX exam, we do not have state boards in the US and have not had them in many years. Our exam is actually national and we have a specific forum for it under the student tab.

You were asking about bringing family with you when coming to the US; be aware that with the temporary visas, they can come, but they are not permitted to work in any shape, or form. And be aware that any of these temporary visas are subject to being cancelled at any time per the whim of the US government or the employer and there is not anything that anyone can do about it.

Very bad idea if you have a family.

There is no favoratism with the H1-B visas in any way, it is strictly by lottery but one is required to meet the basic requirements for it. For the green card, it goes by country of birth, and not where one is residing. At this point in time, the retrogression is more than two years old without signs of letting up. Want for the green card far exceeds the number of visas.

Not sure if you have done anything with even applying for licensure to a state BON in order to get permission to sit for our licensing exam; but you need to be aware of the fact that it is usually four months plus before you will get permission. And then add in the time of taking the test and waiting for the results and having to get a Visa Screen Certificate that is needed in hand for any of the temporary visas and there is almost no way that you would make the deadline of the first of April with having all of that done for the H1-B.

Noticed that you have a couple of posts buried in threads about the NCLEX exam; it is a licensing exam for the US and we have always had one. And it is not an exam to test English skills at all. If anything the CGFNS exam does more of that. The majority of countries actually have licensing exams, many more do than do not. All that wish to work in the US as an RN, even if they are American and trained here, must write and pass this exam to get registered in the state that they wish to work in.

I would highly recommend that you take the time and read some of the stickies on this forum to get information that you need to have that is correct and not what a friend of a friend told you. If the attorney is actually an immigration attorney there is no waiting to check on the cycle of the H1-B visas. It is a very well known fact that the lottery applications are every April with a start date in October. But again, unless you already hold a four year University degree, then you will not meet the basic requirement to even qualify for this visa. And the attorney should have informed you of that as well. The visa also requires that one is a specialist in their field as well and not a relatively new grad either. The US government is currently reviewing each and every H1-B visa as many went out to people that were not qualified for them in terms of work experience and being a specialist in their field.

There is no such thing as a cycle with the H1-C visas; you have it mixed up with the H1-B visas. There are only 14 hospitals out of the entire US that can sponsor under the H1-C and there are only a total of 500 of them, they are not cyclical and we do not expect them to be renewed in 2010 as it is.

What you are speaking of is the H1-B visa and the next cycle is next April, but there are only 65,000 per year and the chances of getting one as an RN are quite slim. One also must possess a full year four year Bachelor's training to even meet the requirements for either of these temporary work visas. Most from your country only have the three year and that will not work. Also having an attorney look at things for you is completely useless for this type of visa, it requires an employer start things as well.

And yes, I know much about the NCLEX exam, we do not have state boards in the US and have not had them in many years. Our exam is actually national and we have a specific forum for it under the student tab.

You were asking about bringing family with you when coming to the US; be aware that with the temporary visas, they can come, but they are not permitted to work in any shape, or form. And be aware that any of these temporary visas are subject to being cancelled at any time per the whim of the US government or the employer and there is not anything that anyone can do about it.

Very bad idea if you have a family.

There is no favouritism with the H1-B visas in any way, it is strictly by lottery but one is required to meet the basic requirements for it. For the green card, it goes by country of birth, and not where one is residing. At this point in time, the retrogression is more than two years old without signs of letting up. Want for the green card far exceeds the number of visas.

Hi THere

Well your knowledge on the NCLEX is not bad ,and many thanks for your help; but I must correct you on a couple of areas if I may; the H1- B e was a previous cycle of alloted work visas from the past like was the HI-A; In 2007 it evolved into the H1-C work visa according to my immigration attorney out of arizona and yes you are correct that they usually come up for application by the immi attorney for their required numbers from the lottery around each april,that's what I meant by cycle;and yes you may be dead on target regarding the allocation numbers;and the country of elegibility may be also important wth regard to greencard lotteries, but the north of ireland is an exception in the uk,.

Now I was informed that even the south of Ireland which traditionaly favoured well with the previous lotteries of greencards applications is like with that of England, out of the running favourites this year of 2008.

Now there are exceptional cases for such specialized nurses,and I have forgotten the current tag for these;But it might well be the HI-C visa since the criterion has under the clinton administration been upgraded eliminating past inferior creditials.

But I am lead to believe that it may possible to just apply for a greencard if one is from the north of ireland and keep it simple.

You have raised a very important issue, and whilst you might be well informed,and somethings are not swinging; the state board from what I understand is to test the competency of nurses coming into work as a nurse to the us in that particular state under their unique conditions and requirements.

It would, if my contact is correct, test the level of knowledge of those nurses who have degree's regardless of how many years their degrees are;

That may render three year degrees equal to four year degrees if such claims are true.

It is'nt really important as the State board test rectifies that problem given that is what it is supposed to do in the first place.

Now , you say that there are no such things as the state boards tests, I must also recheck this along with the other information you say is no longer pertinent;You have put me in the picture alot, especially with the information that conflicts with I am lead to believe, so It is time for recheck;

In fact, I ask myself has all this info I gained only a year ago really changed that much.

Once again many thanks for this brainstorming recheck, and please feel free to check anything I have believed was the case.

I really do appreciate the knowledge from nurses.

I will , thanks to you once again, get current updates on this.

But I will be impressed if what you say about the subject of the state board is no longer , as it was only a year ago in the state of az , I was informed the two must be attained, one the NCLEX and the other was the state board, each for their own reasons.

You seem to say that the NCLEX has replaced the State Board's contents to streamline them:typing.

Much confusion, if this is all true,then all has changed in one year.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN

Has 41 years experience.

State Board test is the NCLEX it is the same exam for all states. You only need to go to school for 2 years and it is the very basic nursing requirements. To qualify for advanced practice you need a MSN and often have to take a credentialing test. These tests are for NPs or midwife.

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 32 years experience.

Hi THere

Well your knowledge on the NCLEX is not bad ,and many thanks for your help; but I must correct you on a couple of areas if I may; the H1- B e was a previous cycle of alloted work visas from the past like was the HI-A; In 2007 it evolved into the H1-C work visa according to my immigration attorney out of arizona and yes you are correct that they usually come up for application by the immi attorney for their required numbers from the lottery around each april,that's what I meant by cycle;and yes you may be dead on target regarding the allocation numbers;and the country of elegibility may be also important wth regard to greencard lotteries, but the north of ireland is an exception in the uk,.

Now I was informed that even the south of Ireland which traditionaly favoured well with the previous lotteries of greencards applications is like with that of England, out of the running favourites this year of 2008.

Now there are exceptional cases for such specialized nurses,and I have forgotten the current tag for these;But it might well be the HI-C visa since the criterion has under the clinton administration been upgraded eliminating past inferior creditials.

But I am lead to believe that it may possible to just apply for a greencard if one is from the north of ireland and keep it simple.

You have raised a very important issue, and whilst you might be well informed,and somethings are not swinging; the state board from what I understand is to test the competency of nurses coming into work as a nurse to the us in that particular state under their unique conditions and requirements.

It would, if my contact is correct, test the level of knowledge of those nurses who have degree's regardless of how many years their degrees are;

That may render three year degrees equal to four year degrees if such claims are true.

It is'nt really important as the State board test rectifies that problem given that is what it is supposed to do in the first place.

Now , you say that there are no such things as the state boards tests, I must also recheck this along with the other information you say is no longer pertinent;You have put me in the picture alot, especially with the information that conflicts with I am lead to believe, so It is time for recheck;

In fact, I ask myself has all this info I gained only a year ago really changed that much.

Once again many thanks for this brainstorming recheck, and please feel free to check anything I have believed was the case.

I really do appreciate the knowledge from nurses.

I will , thanks to you once again, get current updates on this.

But I will be impressed if what you say about the subject of the state board is no longer , as it was only a year ago in the state of az , I was informed the two must be attained, one the NCLEX and the other was the state board, each for their own reasons.

You seem to say that the NCLEX has replaced the State Board's contents to streamline them:typing.

Much confusion, if this is all true,then all has changed in one year.

Your immigration lawyer is the one that is confused. H1c is only for nurses in certain areas (only 14 hospitals have that honour) and usually areas that they find hard to employ local nurse probably due to issues like where the hospital is situated and security/safety.

H1b is something totally different

Looking at countries not accepted for the GC lottery and Ireland isn't mentioned as being exempt http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/T1026V-DV-2010bulletin(3).pdf

H1b

The US H1B visa is a non-immigrant visa, which allows a US company to employ a foreign individual for up to six years. As applying for a non-immigration visa is generally quicker than applying for a US Green Card, staff required on long-term assignment in the US are often initially brought in using a non-immigrant visa such as the H1B visa.

http://www.workpermit.com/us/us_h1b.htm

H1c

The petition must include an “attestation” which has been reviewed and stamped as approved by the Department of Labor. (There is no USCIS adjudicative role in the attestation process, we merely verify that it contains the DOL stamp.) An attestation for purposes of an H-1C petition is a guarantee signed by the facility which will employ the registered nurse that:

• The facility is located in a “health shortage area” and is otherwise “qualified” as defined in section 212(m)(6) of the Act;

• The proposed H-1C employment will have no adverse effect on wages and working conditions of nurses at the facility;

• The wages offered to H-1C nurses are the same as those offered to U.S. citizen or resident alien nurses at the facility;

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=06077402d4db5aa9d3b61021d24804cb

As mentioned NCLEX is a national exam and everyone who wants to work as a nurse in the US has to sit and pass it. It has taken the place of the state boards

ghillbert, MSN, NP

Specializes in CTICU. Has 20 years experience.

Ireland (as a birthplace) is not exempt for the diversity visa lottery, but Northern Ireland is.

The only board exam is the NCLEX, and this has not changed in the past year but several years ago. There is no other "state board" exam.

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 32 years experience.

Seamusglas, just wondering what nurse training and what experience do you have?

H1c visa is only for 3 years and can not be renewed. Even if you go this route at the moment you can not adjust your visa to GC and stay. With retrogression only I140 can be filed so if your 3 years are up and PD doesn't match yours ie your PD is later than what is being processed then you will have to leave the US and wait.

H1b is applicable to some nurses and they must meet H1b requirements and can only be renewed to 6 years and again if you have applied for GC and your PD is not in date then you will have to leave.

Also wondering why you are looking at H1 route when you do not appear to have applied for licensure and passed NCLEX?

The H1-C visa is only offered by 14 facilities out of the entire US. It is not found all over and there are also very strict requirements as well. There is no cycle with the H1-C, there are only 500 out at any one time. And one must pass the NCLEX-RN exam for the specific state where the facility is as well as have a Visa Screen Certificate in hand before one can apply for these temporary work visas. That will take you to next summer or close to it to get all of this done. The H1-C visas are set to expire in 2010 and we do not expect them to be renewed. All is pointing in that very direction.

Even with the 14 facilities that are able to use the H1-C, for several of them, we have not seen them use it in more than 18 months. The H1-B visa is under a cycle and applications are submitted in April for a start the following October. But these are quite limited and have very strict rules for them. The US government is actually going thru and reevaluating each and every one as they were supposed to go to specialists and only 11% have been issued as such.

Also be very aware that if one penny is paid to the attorney by you for one of these temporary visas, then it is automatically denied by immigration. Major requirement is that 100% be paid by the employer and they do check up on this.

What a do find quite odd is that all of us are very aware of how the H1-B and the H1-C work and have worked for sometime; but it is you that is coming here and telling us that we have no idea of anything, but your one attorney does. That makes me question lots of things that you have posted. And be aware that with these temporary visas, sure the family can come, but they cannot get a visa that will permit them to work in any way. They can come only as dependents and most spouses are not going to enjoy that. It is one thing not to have to work, but when you are told that you cannot, that makes things quite different.

Best of luck to you, you are going to need it. I would highly recommend that you spend sometime reading on this forum and you will find that I do know what I am speaking about.

hi.. i read this thread and silvergragon mentioned that a few hospitals use h1b visa to hire foreign nurses to work in the us. i would like to ask if you have a list of these hospitals and if you may post them in here... thanks:nurse:

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 32 years experience.

hi.. i read this thread and silvergragon mentioned that a few hospitals use h1b visa to hire foreign nurses to work in the us. i would like to ask if you have a list of these hospitals and if you may post them in here... thanks:nurse:

It isn't a matter of posting the hospitals, H1b is a specialist visa and most nurses do not meet requirements and they are more than often used for other specialities like IT. Even if you go to the US on a H1b you can not adjust status

And for the original poster to this thread:

Not sure if you have seen the list of the 14 facilities out of the entire US that are even permitted to offer the H1-C visa; you will find that there is not one listing for any facility in Arizona.

H1-C visa also does not have a lottery system, that also shows that you are speaking of the H1-B visa as well.

But the bigger issue is that you must have an actual license in hand as well as the Visa Screen Certificate and that is going to be impossible to have done by April. Other issue is that an employer cannot even offer a job until one has passed the NCLEX-RN exam and has proof of passing. And you have not started the process as of yet, you do not even know if your credentials will meet US requirements for licensure as a start.

Please take the time to do some reading on this site, and use the search engine that we have here, there is much information that you need to be aware of; and it was written by nurses that are aware of what is happening with nursing here in the US.

Also would advise that you take the time to read the Primer that can be found in a sticky at the top of this forum, there is much there that will answer all of your questions. And it contains information that you truly need to know.

Not sure if you have done anything with even applying for licensure to a state BON in order to get permission to sit for our licensing exam; but you need to be aware of the fact that it is usually four months plus before you will get permission. And then add in the time of taking the test and waiting for the results and having to get a Visa Screen Certificate that is needed in hand for any of the temporary visas and there is almost no way that you would make the deadline of the first of April with having all of that done for the H1-B.

Noticed that you have a couple of posts buried in threads about the NCLEX exam; it is a licensing exam for the US and we have always had one. And it is not an exam to test English skills at all. If anything the CGFNS exam does more of that. The majority of countries actually have licensing exams, many more do than do not. All that wish to work in the US as an RN, even if they are American and trained here, must write and pass this exam to get registered in the state that they wish to work in.

I would highly recommend that you take the time and read some of the stickies on this forum to get information that you need to have that is correct and not what a friend of a friend told you. If the attorney is actually an immigration attorney there is no waiting to check on the cycle of the H1-B visas. It is a very well known fact that the lottery applications are every April with a start date in October. But again, unless you already hold a four year University degree, then you will not meet the basic requirement to even qualify for this visa. And the attorney should have informed you of that as well. The visa also requires that one is a specialist in their field as well and not a relatively new grad either. The US government is currently reviewing each and every H1-B visa as many went out to people that were not qualified for them in terms of work experience and being a specialist in their field.

Suzanne, what is an MSN, BON, and on the visa requiremnet, you are correct I believe, but I believe according to my attorney, there are exceptions to the 4 yr degree if the nurse falls into a higher desireable category.

Many thanks

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