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Hello all! How do you feel about families using cameras and echo drop in to spy?  Is it even legal to do this without your knowledge or consent? This is in a private home health setting.

Specializes in Psychiatry, Community, Nurse Manager, hospice.

I don't mind this. I think it's probably legal to do in their own home, right? I like it better when families let me know they have a camera on, but I always assume someone is watching me. My first job was in a psych hospital with cameras everywhere so I just got used to that. A lot of my job in home hospice is teaching, and I think it's great if families can go back over what I said or did. 

I always let my coworkers know when there's a camera. 

Thank you for your reply. I am on the fence about it. I kind of understand them wanting to use a camera. But at the same time it's creepy and distrusting. We definitely need to know it's there. And they should be used more as a communication tool for prevention. Not to "catch" someone. If they feel that way they need new nurses that they trust. I take offense to that somewhat. 

Specializes in Psychiatry, Community, Nurse Manager, hospice.
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Thank you for your reply. I am on the fence about it. I kind of understand them wanting to use a camera. But at the same time it's creepy and distrusting. We definitely need to know it's there. And they should be used more as a communication tool for prevention. Not to "catch" someone. If they feel that way they need new nurses that they trust. I take offense to that somewhat. 

I understand. It is distrusting, but I don't blame them for feeling that way. They (or their loved one) are sick and vulnerable and that makes people defensive. Trust comes with time and sometimes never comes at all. And that's not personal against us.

I try to communicate through that stuff with people. What worries you most about me taking care of your mom? Is there anything that you think I might be missing? What do you think mom needs right now? Talk about it openly, on camera. Don't avoid the camera. Go all in. Answer their questions honestly and if you don't know the answer, tell them that too, and tell them you'll call the doc or your boss to get some guidance. 

I've never had a bad experience with a camera. I just do my job and let the chips fall where they may. 

 

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

How specifically do you know the family is trying to catch you at something?

 

I don't really know what they are doing to be honest. It is not specifically for me. Other nurses are there too. I have been with them for over a year and no issues. They just have this echo drop in thing. It just randomly comes on during the day. 

FolksBtrippin said:

I understand. It is distrusting, but I don't blame them for feeling that way. They (or their loved one) are sick and vulnerable and that makes people defensive. Trust comes with time and sometimes never comes at all. And that's not personal against us.

I try to communicate through that stuff with people. What worries you most about me taking care of your mom? Is there anything that you think I might be missing? What do you think mom needs right now? Talk about it openly, on camera. Don't avoid the camera. Go all in. Answer their questions honestly and if you don't know the answer, tell them that too, and tell them you'll call the doc or your boss to get some guidance. 

I've never had a bad experience with a camera. I just do my job and let the chips fall where they may. 

 

You're right. They have every right to have one. But I am not gonna be watched all day. That is just weird. Where else are the cameras? In the bathroom? Trust is important. So if they can't trust us they need to find new nurses or not use us at all.  

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
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You're right. They have every right to have one. But I am not gonna be watched all day. That is just weird. Where else are the cameras? In the bathroom? Trust is important. So if they can't trust us they need to find new nurses or not use us at all.  

Well I work acute psych so am on camera every where accept the bathroom. My husband designs video security systems so camera and on at home as well. He also has a day job with the federal govt so every once in a while I streak sans apparel across a room just to keep things interesting. Our son asked his dad last year to turn off the cameras in his room. There a lot of countries that CCTV on all the time is well. 

Specializes in Mental Health, Gerontology, Palliative.

In a private house as long as people are aware and can choose whether or not they want to be filmed

IMO there is an exception. Cameras in the toilet or bathroom. hell no. and I don't care if its a private house. That just screams a whole level of ick

Where I work we have cameras in the corridors, drug room. Never seen one in the nurses station and the bedrooms don't have them. 

Specializes in Critical Care.
hppygr8ful said:

Well I work acute psych so am on camera every where accept the bathroom. My husband designs video security systems so camera and on at home as well. He also has a day job with the federal govt so every once in a while I streak sans apparel across a room just to keep things interesting. Our son asked his dad last year to turn off the cameras in his room. There a lot of countries that CCTV on all the time is well. 

Wow!  I didn't know this was a thing with psych nursing.  Is it new?  I remember they had cameras in an ICU at a big hospital to watch patients and I've heard of hospitals with remote ICU's using cameras, but other than that this is new to me.  Never heard of cameras in the house.  Would be weird growing up as a kid with a camera in my bedroom.  I know some people like cameras in their house, especially if they have a pet so they can watch it and interact with it if they aren't at home.  I know China uses CCTV, but in people's homes too?

I never say or do anything that I wouldn't do or say if the family was not present. I practice and speak as if I was being recorded. I don't have anything to hide. My behavior is always as if it could be replayed for a Jury. Most important which is what we signed up for as nurses "do no harm".

Specializes in Patient Safety Advocate; HAI Prevention.

Put yourself in the family's shoes.  Perhaps they can't be there all the time, and the camera is also to keep watch on their loved on when you aren't there. You are showing some level of paranoia if you think the cameras are just to watch what YOU do.    I wish I'd had a camera in my mothers place at assisted living.  After a fall, I was promised she would be checked every hour until the next morning, when she was to see their NP.  When I arrived the next morning, she had never been checked.  She was in her day clothes, in her recliner, and things were knocked over beside her...spilled water on the floor, and other items had fallen off that table.  She had no covers on her and she hadn't even been brought breakfast. Also, she was in a very weakened condition, compared to the previous day.  I immediately removed her from that facility, and took her to the ER. She never went back.   So, if I am ever in that position again, that my loved one or myself...needing in home care, I will have cameras. 

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