So we recently admitted a male patient who identifies himself as female. We don't get many patients like her. A nurse in particular let's his political views get in the way of work and has been calling this patient "it".
Now, let's fast forward to the dilemma. During medication pass, he addressed the patient as "it" out loud and other staff and patients started laughing; next thing you know, we had a behavioral emergency on our hands.
I filled out an incident report because several other nurses and I have spoken to this nurse prior to the event happening. One nurse even brought it up the chain of command. Not only is it unprofessional but it's endangering the safety of others - clearly, it's one of her triggers. Has anyone ever dealt with this type of conduct?
I don't want to take anyone's voter rights, my un-ignorable comment had nothing to do with actually banning but you all can make it to be something to take issue with.
I sure wouldn't defend someone's integrity whom I strongly disagree with on pretty much everything and then want to take away her civil right.
Considering the serious political nature of the topic, I couldn't in good conscience let her comment slide -joke or not. I've heard intolerant folks from every political spectrum utter similar comments about denying the vote to opponents and personally, I don't find it funny. Especially, since many of my ancestors protested, fought and died for the right to vote.
Good conscience? Your ancestors? Good grief.
You weren't being sarcastic as you tried to back pedal, it was righteousness, you could've just owned it.
Though I think it's weak to use someone for your misdirected soapbox.
You weren't being sarcastic as you tried to back pedal, it was righteousness, you could've just owned it.
Though I think it's weak to use someone for your misdirected soapbox.
Call me what you want. As I said, you made a remark that I felt strongly about and I commented as such. If you have a problem with that, it's okay. I'll live.
Specializes in Float Pool-Med-Surg, Telemetry, IMCU.
That's true. But everyone has a right to their opinion. They're allowed that. And as you've seen here, people can have their own opinion or view of the LGBT community and not let it affect how they treat or care for those individuals.
I'm sorry but if a person honestly believes that GLBT folks are somehow mentally ill, sinful or what have you I highly doubt it doesn't affect how they treat or care for "those individuals". And they can call me a close-minded lefty but if that's what they believe I wouldn't want them treating me or my loved ones. And that's MY opinion.
But when the "tolerant" left starts talking about how people who disagree with them should be disallowed from earning a living, voting, speaking in public.....I don't let that go.
I'm actually glad that this all got hashed out like it did. It proves that reasonable, mature, compassionate people, and good nurses, come from all walks of life and belief systems. We don't all have to fit some cookie cutter mold, and people who disagree can still like and respect one another. Or at least get along.
I can be a bit left leaning myself, and then people do the "they don't agree with me so they are a bigot!" And I just want to facepalm. We all have our own village of idiots.
I'm sorry but if a person honestly believes that GLBT folks are somehow mentally ill, sinful or what have you I highly doubt it doesn't affect how they treat or care for "those individuals". And they can call me a close-minded lefty but if that's what they believe I wouldn't want them treating me or my loved ones. And that's MY opinion.
By this logic there wouldn't be any one allowed to work in a psych hospital or a prison. I have cared for people who have murdered children and even their own parents. I know that I gave them good care and trust me I was a hundred percent convinced that they were completely crazy and sinful. Does that mean I didn't give them good care? Furthermore should someone who thinks they are a hundred percent okay and great the way they are be allowed to take care of them?
Are you comparing GLBT people to murderers? Poorly done.
Didn't mean to like your comment. I knew someone was going to say this. The poster wasn't comparing the LGBT community to murderers; the poster was simply making a point about nurses. Sometimes we feel a certain way about different types of people, but we don't let it affect our ability to provide the best care that we can deliver. You completely skipped over the message the poster was saying.
The whole concept of "love the sinner, not the sin" is an important concept. Not saying that sexuality is a sin, but we all deal with people we disagree with on a daily basis. It didn't make them less human.
I get where this is coming from but I fundamentally disagree. I don't think we, as nurses or as fellow human beings, get to decide what is "too much" for someone. I don't think we should pass judgement on someone when something we view as innocuous makes then break down. It's not our job or our right, because we haven't been there and we don't truly know what it's like to be them.
So, putting someone down for being hurt by something that's happened or that someone has done to them, or saying they "shouldn't be" hurt, to my eyes, is kind of like rubbing salt in their wound. Be compassionate that they are wounded in the first place; validate their pain and their right to feel it; be gentle and aware of the possibility for further harm. No need to judge them for what they are feeling.
It's blaming the victim.
Getting a little off topic here, but I'm very aware of the pain words can inflict. I moved to a new school in 7th grade; had gone from a DOD school where my dad was stationed, to this itty bitty dot on the map in Wisconsin when he retired. I was shy and a bit awkward, but I'd always had a handful of friends, and no problems with the kids who I wasn't friends with. At my new school I was verbally taunted every day. I was occasionally physically attacked also--I had a volleyball overhand-served to my head, I was spit on, one kid sneaked up behind me in art class and poured rubber cement on me. By far, the most painful was the words. The boys were meaner to me than the girls were, so it wasn't even some kind of "Mean Girls" scenario; actually those 3 physical examples were from boys. I have no idea why; I'd never done anything to them.
But anyway, I was suicidal off and on for a couple of years. I also started having belly pain and syncopal episodes. My parents took me to the dr. to get that evaluated, but when all the tests came back negative and the dr. diagnosed it as panic attacks... well, apparently I didn't need help because it was all in my head. I self-injured for a while, but when my parents found out, they yelled that I'd have to go to an "insane asylum" and I would bankrupt the family because it wasn't covered. Oh, and I'd start a house fire and burn my sister to death, after burning myself with matches. Sensitive, huh?? (Later they did acknowledge that they'd handled it horribly.)
So anyway, that's the effect words had on me as a 12-14 yr old girl. After a couple of years of that, it did get better enough that I was able to function, get good grades again, etc.
But years upon years of harassment...and from a NURSE? How damaging that must be. Regardless of one's stance on LGBT issues, nobody deserves cruelty--especially from those who are supposed to be helping them--and every person has inherent worth as a human being. To call someone "it" is to deny that worth.
I self-injured for a while, but when my parents found out, they yelled that I'd have to go to an "insane asylum" and I would bankrupt the family because it wasn't covered. Oh, and I'd start a house fire and burn my sister to death, after burning myself with matches. Sensitive, huh?? (Later they did acknowledge that they'd handled it horribly.)
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I don't want to take anyone's voter rights, my un-ignorable comment had nothing to do with actually banning but you all can make it to be something to take issue with.
I sure wouldn't defend someone's integrity whom I strongly disagree with on pretty much everything and then want to take away her civil right.