maybe its just me, but i get very bothered when someone says "i'm a nurse," and their not, their a cna, or nurse aid, or have no schooling at all and just worked their way up in a clinic. i work at a local emergency clinic 30 hours a week to gain experience in my field, and i just got accepted in ns, and i'v worked darn hard to get here! and i find it bothersome when one of the girls at work say "i'm the nurse" or something along those lines...i feel that when i graduate and pass my nclex that, only then, will i be able to say "i'm a nurse." the other day my doctor said "jamie, will you get a nurse?" i said "im sorry doc, i dont think we have any of those working here." he actually laughed and said "you know what i mean"......but is this just me?????
Totally agree with everyone.... I'm a nursing student 8 weeks away from graduating and still refuse to call myself a nurse. Patients mistake me as a nurse ALL THE TIME and I explain that the nurses wear a different color and have different responsibilities... if they need something I can help them with I will... but if it's a nurse they want I go find one. I don't think people understand how difficult becomming a nurse is and if they did they sure wouldn't call themselves a nurse!
I am sorry if you found my post upsetting. Taking a deep breath and relaxing is what is wrong with our profession. We have allowed others to take skills away from us. Handing them over to unlicensed individuals in an attempt to save money, by our employers. And in some states, we have allowed state legislatures to creat new cerificates, and naming them as Level One or Two CNAs. We are the only profession, that I am aware of, that has three entry levels, for the same skill set. We tend to make light of others calling themselves nurses, when they are not.
And we wonder why we are not treated as professionals by others. I am no longer able to practice nursing but I have not given up on my profession.
Woody:balloons:
1 No I didnt find you upsetting, very little if anything upsets me. I refuse to empower anything to upset me.
2. Deep breatheing and relaxing is beneficial to our profession. We are by nature of our profession to remain calm. While others don't.
3. We have had nothing taken away from us.
4. We do not have 3 entry levels. There is only one entry level. RN. Now there are several educational levels but only one entry level.
5 I tend to make light of most people in this world, From GWB on Down.
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
1 No I didnt find you upsetting, very little if anything upsets me. I refuse to empower anything to upset me.
2. Deep breatheing and relaxing is beneficial to our profession. We are by nature of our profession to remain calm. While others don't.
3. We have had nothing taken away from us.
4. We do not have 3 entry levels. There is only one entry level. RN. Now there are several educational levels but only one entry level.
5 I tend to make light of most people in this world, From GWB on Down.
Perhaps I should reword it. We are the only profession, that I am aware of, that has three different education levels, that allow all three to sit for the same licensing examination to be a professional nurse. There is no other profession that allows that, except P.A.'s. They two can work after obtaining an associate, a B.S. or and M.S. depending on which program they choose. But since you apparently see nothing wrong with this, then you also mustn't mind the lack of respect that we get, as a profession, from P.T., O.T., M.D. And it mustn't be all that important that no one apparently respects you or what you do or what you think. After all, you are just a body, handing out medications, aren't you.
Funny, I take my politics seriously. Have ever since 1968, the first year I voted. And I find very little about what Bush has done to our country as laughable. I guess I don't have a sense of humor.
Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
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4. We do not have 3 entry levels. There is only one entry level. RN. Now there are several educational levels but only one entry level.
Pray tell, then what are LPNs? Chopped liver or other people pretending to be nurses? Inquiring minds want to know. This seems like another LPN bashing in the works.
Pray tell, then what are LPNs? Chopped liver or other people pretending to be nurses? Inquiring minds want to know. This seems like another LPN bashing in the works.
I'm sure it was more an oversight from the two people discussing the "three entry/education" levels to becoming a nurse rather than a deliberate LPN bashing. I understand that must be frustrating when that happens (all too often I'm sure).
It's no wonder people get confused though when there are three educational paths to the RN and one for the LPN, so four ways to be earn the right to be called "nurse". I hope I didn't forget anyone.
I'm of the opinion of the majority on this one that only LPNs and RNs should be presenting themselves as nurses. CNA/Nurse Techs/Students/MA's, etc should state their title clearly and it's not "I'm you're nurse today" or try to pass themselves off as nurses in the general public.
Pray tell, then what are LPNs? Chopped liver or other people pretending to be nurses? Inquiring minds want to know. This seems like another LPN bashing in the works.
I never bashed LPNs in any way, shape or form there.
Perhaps I should reword it. We are the only profession, that I am aware of, that has three different education levels, that allow all three to sit for the same licensing examination to be a professional nurse. There is no other profession that allows that, except P.A.'s. They two can work after obtaining an associate, a B.S. or and M.S. depending on which program they choose. But since you apparently see nothing wrong with this, then you also mustn't mind the lack of respect that we get, as a profession, from P.T., O.T., M.D. And it mustn't be all that important that no one apparently respects you or what you do or what you think. After all, you are just a body, handing out medications, aren't you.
Funny, I take my politics seriously. Have ever since 1968, the first year I voted. And I find very little about what Bush has done to our country as laughable. I guess I don't have a sense of humor.
Woody:balloons:
A.... I see an RN as a RN. We are RNs. It doesnt matter to me at all whether its AD, BS, MS. Programs are a matter of choice and for what you hope to achieve in the future. Its personal choice, and I respect that.
And personally as an RN I get a lot of respect. I have worked for it and I have earned it. Now if you see Nursing as a field with a lack of Respect. I just can't see this. I find nursing very respectable. I feel most do as well. If you feel a lack of respect in nursing, I cant answer that for you. I dont understand it.
b.... And yes I generally find life very amusing. I find politics very amusing and laughable even. I usually find something to laugh at every time GWB opens his mouth. I even find humour in the general Human Condition in general. Then I go to the golf course.
Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
I'm sure it was more an oversight from the two people discussing the "three entry/education" levels to becoming a nurse rather than a deliberate LPN bashing. I understand that must be frustrating when that happens (all too often I'm sure).
It's no wonder people get confused though when there are three educational paths to the RN and one for the LPN, so four ways to be earn the right to be called "nurse". I hope I didn't forget anyone.
I'm of the opinion of the majority on this one that only LPNs and RNs should be presenting themselves as nurses. CNA/Nurse Techs/Students/MA's, etc should state their title clearly and it's not "I'm you're nurse today" or try to pass themselves off as nurses in the general public.
Yeah, it did seem that, yet again, we were the forgotten ones
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
A.... I see an RN as a RN. We are RNs. It doesnt matter to me at all whether its AD, BS, MS. Programs are a matter of choice and for what you hope to achieve in the future. Its personal choice, and I respect that.
And personally as an RN I get a lot of respect. I have worked for it and I have earned it. Now if you see Nursing as a field with a lack of Respect. I just can't see this. I find nursing very respectable. I feel most do as well. If you feel a lack of respect in nursing, I cant answer that for you. I dont understand it.
Now I believe I understand. Some view nurses, regardless of the degree of their education, as basically the same. They see no advantage to requiring a higher degree of education because, why, because it is a matter of personal choice. They are correct, in one aspect, the desire to learn is definitely a matter of personal choice. But there any similarity ends. Nurses that have an MSN. definitely do posses more knowledge, more skills, then one with a BSN. And a nurse who holds a PhD, definitely has more knowledge and skills then either a MSN or a BSN. Even a BSN has more knowledge and skills then an A.D. or diploma graduate. The only thing that unites the three lower levels of education, is that they must all meet the minimum standard of education that their BON has agreed on, in order to be licensed.
As for respect, it is not automatically given or earned. But the other occupations, which have just one entry level, appear to be granted respect based solely on their education. However, in most occupations, the more education an individual has, the more respect they will have, based purely on their advanced knowledge.
b.... And yes I generally find life very amusing. I find politics very amusing and laughable even. I usually find something to laugh at every time GWB opens his mouth. I even find humour in the general Human Condition in general. Then I go to the golf course.
I hope you enjoy your golfing. The rest of us will take our country and our world more seriously. Someone has to, or you will shortly not have any place to golf.
In my case, name tags made NO difference. The corporation made up the designation of CMA!! There is no such thing in the state of Virginia. There was no education involved - just a made up title. The scariest part for me was, and still is, the very young and uneducated parents that are being make to think they are being cared for by trained individuals - they aren't!
Meri333
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Totally agree with everyone.... I'm a nursing student 8 weeks away from graduating and still refuse to call myself a nurse. Patients mistake me as a nurse ALL THE TIME and I explain that the nurses wear a different color and have different responsibilities... if they need something I can help them with I will... but if it's a nurse they want I go find one. I don't think people understand how difficult becomming a nurse is and if they did they sure wouldn't call themselves a nurse!