CA BRN New Requirements For NCLEX RN international students

sallyp911 · Apr 15, 2012

I posted on the CA Board of Nursing thread, but in the case others have not yet read this:

Saturday, April 7, 2012

US labor market tough for Filipino Nurses until 2020[/h]

ABS-CBNnews.com

Filipino nurses may have difficulty entering the US labor market until 2020, according to party-list Rep. Arnel Ty.

“Right now, they have ample supply of US-educated nurses,” said Ty, the representative in Congress of the Liquefied Petroleum Gas Marketers’ Association (LPG-MA).

In a statement, Ty cited statistics from America’s National Council of State Boards of Nursing which show that the US produced close to a million nurses from 2006 to 2011.

Ty said the US demand for Filipino and other foreign nurses may start to recover in 8 years when thousands of US-based nurses would have retired.

The US first encountered a shortage of nurses in 1998. This created a surge in number of Filipino nursing graduates hoping to get a career in the US.

However, the gap has since been filled by the large increase in the number of American nurses, plus a deluge of foreign-educated practitioners.

Due to the huge oversupply of nurses in the Philippines, both the Commission on Higher Education and the Professional Regulation Commission have been urging high school graduates to shun nursing.

Late response

Ty blamed regulators for their late response to labor market conditions.

“They should be more aggressive in researching and projecting future labor market conditions, both here and abroad, to help guide young Filipinos as to potential career paths,” he said.

“Regulators are just reacting to what is already happening, such as the apparent glut of nursing graduates. Their late advisories would be more valuable once these are predictive and instructive, rather than merely reactive,” Ty said.

From 1995 to 2011, Ty said a total of 145,081 Filipino nurses sought to practice their profession in America by taking for the first time (excluding repeaters) the US licensure exam, or NCLEX.

However, Ty said that “from 2006 to 2011 alone, a total of 938,552 US nursing graduates also took the NCLEX for the first time.”

Special jobs plan

Ty said he has been pushing for a new law that “would establish a special local jobs plan for idle Filipino nurses, now estimated at more than 300,000.”

He has filed House Bill 4582, which seeks an expanded version of the Nurses Assigned in Rural Service or NARS, “the short-lived Philippine government project that enlisted nurses to improve healthcare in poverty-stricken towns.”

Ty’s said the Special Program for the Employment of Nurses in Urban and Rural Services (NURSE) “would mobilize a total of 10,000 practitioners every year."

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Apr 15, 2012

posters have been warning IEN since 2007 the shortage is over.Why this is news now is a mystery.

kayakoto · Apr 15, 2012

I got same dilemma too. so to make my burden and story short I think.. CA BON treat applicants differently. Coz for ex. if the applicant is already RN in their country (for ex. PHIL) they'll not ask for more requirements. Compare to un-licensed one, they ask for many crap and stuff then after you stated the reason why you're not holding a license they still ask for many paperworks and yet denied you at the end? I just apply this March 2012 and recieved my checklist to be done but I'm thinking if Im gonna still pursue my RN career.

@ westcoastguy...CABON doesnt treat each applicant differently license or not in the Phil.they will still ask for the Copy of our Clinical cases..I know because Im one of them BSN grad.RN in the Pil.,1st time to take NCLEX but my application was denied..

kayakoto · Apr 15, 2012

I receive a letter today about I need a copy of my schedule rotation for all required cases: assisted-actual deliveries, cord care and major-minor surgery. I am quite confuse..are they asking about the time and dates on my duties regarding my OB and OR, or they asking about the cases of OB and surgeries we passed to the school and PRC for our local exams. I am here in california, and most of my friends who applied here for nclex were not asked about that. its only me, who only applied for license of endorsement since my old license was from vermont. could post a copy of what this schedule rotation look like? thanks u so much

@ cheguapa...the reasons some of your friends were not asked for the copy of their cases was maybe because they apply prior to the new reinforcement of the new rules of CABON asking for another requirements(Copy of Clinical Cases).and now even if it just endorsement they will still need you to submitt the cases.Thats why there is no sense even if some of us try to apply licensure in other state and have it endorse in California for it will not work.

CABON suggested either to take LVN exam or to study to complete the deficiency or apply to another state and work there.

che_guapa · Apr 16, 2012

1. clinical rotation schedule for all clinical cases completed (actual and assisted deliveries, cord dressings, major/minor procedures) reflecting exact dates clinical coursework was completed, locations rotations were completed. instructor signature. etc.
2. academic calendar which reflects exacts dates each semester, all holidays and all break begin and end

these clinical rotation schedule is giving me headache..I graduated last march 2005, and sad to say I dont have these anymore. 7 years had passed.. I dont even know if my school kept or even had he copy of my clinical rotation.. these academic calendar, does it have to be these year? or the years that i was still a student?

anybody here wo lost her/his clinical rotation schedule? who grarduated here around 2005 like me?

mjhay · Apr 16, 2012

@che_guapa how about ur RLE checklist, maybe u have still those..actually, that was i did, since id lost mine too, so, i photocopied my clinical cases from there, and have it signed as a certified true copy by our dean,.unfortunately, i was still denied by the CABoN..

honeyjade · Apr 16, 2012

I have the same problem with the CA BRN. Now I am looking for community colleges and universities that would accept me to complete Med-Surg and OB. I also applied for the BVNPT and I was wondering if they also have a concurrency problem? My problem is not just the deficiency in Med-Surg and OB but my Human Anatomy was taken with the NCM 101 which was supposed to be taken prior to taking the major subjects. Do you think that it would be a problem? And another thing, in my school we didn't have a pharmacology course but we they did taught us how to administer, calculate drugs and its adverse effects like any other Nursing Schools in the Philippines. Would that also be another problem? Please help!

honeyjade · Apr 16, 2012

I am planning on getting into an ADN Program while in the process of my LVN application. But I heard that in the near future, CA BRN will not be accepting applicants to take the NCLEX with an Associate Degree. They would have to be a Bachelor Degree holder in order to take the NCLEX. Does anyone know if thats true?

By the way, who had the same problem with the CA BRN but applied for the BVNPT and got their eligibility? Or is there any reason to get denied by the BVNPT?

Thanks!

kayakoto · Apr 16, 2012

I have the same problem with the CA BRN. Now I am looking for community colleges and universities that would accept me to complete Med-Surg and OB. I also applied for the BVNPT and I was wondering if they also have a concurrency problem? My problem is not just the deficiency in Med-Surg and OB but my Human Anatomy was taken with the NCM 101 which was supposed to be taken prior to taking the major subjects. Do you think that it would be a problem? And another thing, in my school we didn't have a pharmacology course but we they did taught us how to administer, calculate drugs and its adverse effects like any other Nursing Schools in the Philippines. Would that also be another problem? Please help!

I think it will not be an issue for the BVNPT because when my eligibility was denied for NCLEX-RN by CABON they suggested that I can take LVN exam and they told me that concurrency issue will not be a problem since BVNPT is not after it.and about ur PHARMACOLOGY course ur school knows what to do with it,I think its integrated in one of our NCM class.Dont stress yourself too much kababayan everything will be ok.

kayakoto · Apr 16, 2012

I am planning on getting into an ADN Program while in the process of my LVN application. But I heard that in the near future, CA BRN will not be accepting applicants to take the NCLEX with an Associate Degree. They would have to be a Bachelor Degree holder in order to take the NCLEX. Does anyone know if thats true?
By the way, who had the same problem with the CA BRN but applied for the BVNPT and got their eligibility? Or is there any reason to get denied by the BVNPT?
Thanks!

kababayan you are a Bachelor Degree holder.I also apply for LVN exam

and Im still waiting for my papers to be process by my school.

BennyRNCA · Apr 16, 2012

I am planning on getting into an ADN Program while in the process of my LVN application. But I heard that in the near future, CA BRN will not be accepting applicants to take the NCLEX with an Associate Degree. They would have to be a Bachelor Degree holder in order to take the NCLEX. Does anyone know if thats true?
By the way, who had the same problem with the CA BRN but applied for the BVNPT and got their eligibility? Or is there any reason to get denied by the BVNPT?
Thanks!

That's what many are hearing now (rumors) about the minimum requirements to take the NCLEX in the near future may be a Bachelor's Degree, a certain degree called the BSN (Bachelor of Science in Nursing). These courses are more into the harder sciences of mathematics and physiological in nature.

I think that same Bachelor's degree, however, must meet the same CA BON requirements, if you plan to get a license in CA. If so, then I think the same endorsement policies that the CA BON still enforces today applies if you get your license from out of state and try to come back into CA.

If your current overseas Bachelor's degree is not being accepted by the CA BON, it would seem to reason that you need to go after a BSN that meets CA BON minimums. The usual BSN program in CA is a four-year degree and like most BSN nursing programs in the States are very heavily impacted with a long waiting list.

You will find that in many cases, CA hospitals are now mostly hiring BSN's (preferred) today and if you have 3.50 GPA, your chances are better, but not guaranteed. You can skip over to the CA nursing forum here and read all about it. One day, hospitals may change that to BSN's "only", like they have been proposing in NY. If that law passes in NY, CA will not be too far away.

I know that the majority of you guys here already have your overseas BSN's, congrats! Just wanted to post up of the current hiring situation of new grads in the States.

It seems to me that if your overseas college were to re-do their course and class structure such as those now having to find a local community college here to complete your deficiencies, without having to re-take classes in the States, you would qualify under the CA BON requirements? Or am I missing something (not being a local citizen or of your country)?

westcoastguy · Apr 17, 2012

If you don't mind who's your Analyst?? So that I have idea to my application. so you think even I passed my checklist they still denied me?