Bypass The Retrogresion

Djuna · Mar 28, 2008

Davis usa

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By the way there is no quick way to the US. I am married to a US citizen and it has taken over a year to do NCLEX and immigration stuff and I still don't have a GC.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Mar 29, 2008

Dear suzanne
Is there any way to start working as anurse in US besides Green Card? i do not want citezenship only employment
Sombody wrote here
"If you are a foreign grad nurse who completed their requirements, currently in the USA and has a sponsor go ahead dont let it deter you. You can file your I-140 and I-485 concurrently bypassing the labor cert and will receive your EAD (employment authorization document) first so you can start working already while waiting for the green card. You have a good chance of getting the EAD, but the green card now that is a different question.They have to process first those that have an earlier priority date before you".
Can i get EAD easily? is it enougt to start working in us?
Thank you in advance

I485 is EAD and currently you can not get it as usually have to be in the US already and adjust your visa and the visa allocation has to be current which with retrogression it isn't. . GC does not always result in citizenship but is a route to get it. If you meet criteria for H1b and the hospital does it you can go that route but for normal bedside nursing that is not available usually specialist nurses meet this requirement. There is no quick way to work in the US although for a couple of countries if a citizen there is a slightly different option is E3 or TN which is Australia, Canada and Mexico but again you have to meet their requirements and have passed NCLEX and VSC available

Just my take on things

suzanne4, RN · Mar 29, 2008

The I-485 is actually the petition for the Adjustment of Status, and that is for those that are going thru the AOS process and are in the US with another type of visa and wish to adjust for the green card.

However, and with a very big however, visas need to be current for the US to accept this petition and that is where your problem lies. We are under the retrogression and the thread that you are talking about concerns the labor certificate and nothing more.

There is no way to get any type of visa to live and work in the US for you at this time, there are no shortcutds and no way to bypass the retrogression.

David usa · Mar 29, 2008

EVERY ONE THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSES

I already passed NClEX and IELTS and I am sure that i can find a lot of sponsors with great contracts to offer

Does any one have an idea how an ordinary nurse can meet the criteria for H1b.

What are requerments ? And can these days sponsors be creative enough to obtain a green card thrugh H1b?

Thank you

suzanne4, RN · Mar 29, 2008

You are not listening to what we are telling you. There have not been any H1-B visas for bedside nurses for more than four years or so.

There are very strict requirements to be able to get one of these in the first place, and most of them have a cap on the number per year that are issued. The facilities that you have mentioned are not exempt from the cap.

The petition needs to be submitted in a few days to get a chance at the next group of them, there is no way that any attorney will be able to get it done for you. And you still do not have a Visa Screen Certificate and that is a requirement before they can submit the petition for you. It cannot be done without that. Next time for it to be submitted is in October, 2008 for a start date of April, 2009. Suggest that you have a good read on the USCIS website about the new requirements that are also going into play in the next few days with the H1-B visa.

We keep telling you that there is no short-cut for working in the US, and you are still looking for shortcuts that do not exist. And once again, they cannot be creative enough to get approval on the H1-B, as it is also done by lottery system, and strict requirements need to be met as far as the job. And one specific requirement is that the job require the BSN as a entry level for the particular job and most jobs in the US do not require the BSN. So that takes most jobs out of the running, as well as most facilities have unions and the unions will not permit temorary workers.

And in the future, please post your questions in the same thread to make it easier to follow, not starting a new one for each question. You just go to the bottom and post a reply.

David usa · Mar 31, 2008

our moderators here are very pessimistic about green card due to retrogression!

can somebody explain why a huge number of sponsors are more than ready to apply a petition for nurses? sponsors invest a lot of money, so what they expect to get in return?

what logic stands behind that?

i just started to look for a good contract and i have already 5 of them.

thank you in advance

elkpark · Mar 31, 2008

our moderators here are very pessimistic about green card due to retrogression!
can somebody explain why a huge number of sponsors are more than ready to apply a petition for nurses? sponsors invest a lot of money, so what they expect to get in return?
what logic stands behind that?
i just started to look for a good contract and i have already 5 of them.
thank you in advance

the moderators on the international nursing forum are pessimistic because they are very knowledgeable about immigration issues. you can collect as many contracts as you like; sponsors and agencies do not control or influence immigration and cannot issue you a visa or green card. apparently (i gather from my reading here), nurses in other parts of the world are accustomed to being able to come to work in the us whever they feel like it. that is no longer the case -- immigration policies and practices in the us have changed dramatically in the last few years, and, unless/until things change, you are looking at a delay of several years and might never be able to come to the us. if you're in a hurry, you may want to look at going to another country beside the us.

i encourage you to read some of the other threads on this forum about the experiences other nurses are having in trying to come to the us.

suzanne4, RN · Mar 31, 2008

You are free to do as you please, you came here to ask for advice and we gave it. Just because someone is willing to petition you, and they are not sponsoring you, does not even mean that they will be in business when there are visas available or need the help then. If they change administrators, many times contracts get cancelled, and we have seen that happen over and over again here. And the company may not need any foreign nurses at that time.

And many of these so called agencies, make you foot all of the expenses, it is not something that they take lightly or even spend the money on.

We have answered your questions, but you do not like what we are answering you with. Not sure what else that you want us to do?

But I do demand that you remain respectful here of the moderators, and if you do not like what we are writing, you are free to go to any other site that you want. There is a reason that people prefer this site over others, we give them the most current information.

And any company can make any promises that they want, but the fact remains that they are not the ones issuing visas. Only the government does that, and no company gets any preferential treatment over one another.

suzanne4, RN · Mar 31, 2008

And just for your information, I am the only one that is in the US; my two co-moderators actually have pending petitions and have been patiently waiting for a visa. So we are telling you what is going on in the real world. Sure, they would love to be here and working but the fact is that the US is under a retrogression.

And one of them had the facility cancel a contract when they were in the later stages of processing as they were not going to be petitioning foreign nurses any longer and she had to start the process from scratch as if nothing were ever done.

So this is not something that we are making up to you just to get our jollies. As I stated above, you are welcome to go to another site if you do not like what we are posting here. The retrogression is in effect, and we expect it to last for sometime, it will not be over until visas are current.

You can do as much reading as you want, just like we do. And you will ultimately come up with the same answers that we are giving here.

suzanne4, RN · Mar 31, 2008

And please use your terms correctly, for the green card one gets petitioned, they do not get sponsored.

David usa · Mar 31, 2008

dear moderators you are wonderful and i do not want to dare your experience. i just want to understend what motivate sponsors to invest these days.

thank you very much for your responses