BSN requirement for new grads in acute care

[nursel56]

The information that I have found that points towards better/safer care for patients were on nurses that obtained their RN to BSN, not just initial BSN, or ADN for that matter. Some of these studies don't diferentiate between the two. Example: The nurses could have been working as an ADN or Diploma for the past 20 years and then got their BSN and all of the sudden, they're providing better/safer care because of it!

I haven't seen any studies that look specifically at RN to BSN outcomes vs any other model. The most oft-cited study of outcomes does not factor in various ways nurses earn their BSN. Do you have links to those studies that point toward better/safer care from RN to BSN educated nurses?

[PMFB-RN, RN]

I believe it's 80% BSN for magnet by 2020.

*** You are mistaken. The 80% by 2020 is an IOM recommendation (you know the group that is STILL putting out false propaganda and a severe nursing shortage).

New Magnet requirements is that hospitals have a plan in place to meet IOM's suggestion.

[AJJKRN]

I used CIHNAL through my school program for the journal search with RN to BSN being the key words. I truly was just looking for articles on RN to BSN students when I came across a few trends. The articles were geared more towards the education piece comprehension with post-graduate students being able to apply concepts learned because of past work experiences and knowledge bases that any undergraduate nursing student just doesn't have the opportunities to draw from yet.

[AJJKRN]

*** The fly in that ointment is that the BSN program doesn't include and information or knowledge about nursing.

I did my BSN at a well respected state university that has a large school of nursing with programs from traditional BSN to DNP and PhD and several APN offerings. There was nothing about nursing in my program with the exception of one community nursing class that only re-covered ground taught in the ADN community nursing class.

I would never do it again and strongly recommend other ADN RNs not do an RN to BSN program. I pretty much consider them obsolete now. If I had it to do over again, and what I recommend for others, is to do RN to MSN and skip the BSN altogether. The one exception of course is ADN RNs who plan on going to CRNA school.

For the price I would not do it again!!!

My school is a private university with classes half in classroom and the other online. Except for gen eds, the core classes are all nursing. Yes, tons of APA papers but the good part is that the students can generally focus on the topic they want to and research from there so it helps to have control on what we want to increase knowledge on depending on our specific field along with learning topics outside of our comfort zone.

I initially chose the RN to BSN because I wanted to do NP next. Know I'm undecided and burnt out from school so we'll see...

[nursel56]

Oh I see . . .I just thought that since you wrote a paper on the topic you would have the links as part of it. It certainly makes sense that someone with nursing experience would assimilate the new information in the BSN course of study more easily due to familiarity with both the nursing process and knowledge base. Thanks for the reply!

[PMFB-RN, RN]

For the price I would not do it again!!!

My school is a private university with classes half in classroom and the other online. Except for gen eds, the core classes are all nursing. Yes, tons of APA papers but the good part is that the students can generally focus on the topic they want to and research from there so it helps to have control on what we want to increase knowledge on depending on our specific field along with learning topics outside of our comfort zone.

I initially chose the RN to BSN because I wanted to do NP next. Know I'm undecided and burnt out from school so we'll see...

*** My program was free and I got to do quite a bit of the "work" on paid time. I still wouldn't do it again. I would do RN to MSN.

If I was an ADN RN who wanted to become and NP I would consider skipping the BSN and going directly to MSN NP program while there are still some around.

[pinksteth]

If I was an ADN RN who wanted to become and NP I would consider skipping the BSN and going directly to MSN NP program while there are still some around.

Anyone know of any schools besides Frontier Nursing University that offers this route?

[PMFB-RN, RN]

Anyone know of any schools besides Frontier Nursing University that offers this route?

***There a number of RN to MSN NP programs. You just have to search for them. That is how I found them.

Masters In Nursing | RN To MSN | Masters Of Nursing | Walden University

Xavier University - Nursing (Graduate) - RN to MSN Program

ECU College of Nursing - Homepage

RN to MSN - Clarkson College

Found with a quick Google search. Google is your friend.

[Palliative Care, DNP]

Old Dominion University where I completed my BSN offers RN to MSN.

[SE_BSN_RN, BSN]

*** The fly in that ointment is that the BSN program doesn't include and information or knowledge about nursing.

I did my BSN at a well respected state university that has a large school of nursing with programs from traditional BSN to DNP and PhD and several APN offerings. There was nothing about nursing in my program with the exception of one community nursing class that only re-covered ground taught in the ADN community nursing class.

I would never do it again and strongly recommend other ADN RNs not do an RN to BSN program. I pretty much consider them obsolete now. If I had it to do over again, and what I recommend for others, is to do RN to MSN and skip the BSN altogether. The one exception of course is ADN RNs who plan on going to CRNA school.

The BSN program doesn't include information or knowledge about nursing? Really? Mine sure did!

[SE_BSN_RN, BSN]

*** You are mistaken. The 80% by 2020 is an IOM recommendation (you know the group that is STILL putting out false propaganda and a severe nursing shortage).

New Magnet requirements is that hospitals have a plan in place to meet IOM's suggestion.

Why would the IOM put out 'false propaganda'?

[PMFB-RN, RN]

The BSN program doesn't include information or knowledge about nursing? Really? Mine sure did!

*** It didn't include any knowlage or information about nursing that had not previously been covered in the ADN program.