I'm wondering if any one has heard of Brandman University. They have a new ABSN program in San Diego, CA that i'm looking into. My grades are not competitive but i want to get into my career soon.
Has anyone been to this school, and if so, how did you like it? Do you think I'll be able to land a good job as an RN if I were to apply and attend? I'm nervous, since it is a new program! Such as, what if they end up closing and the degree won't be valid ?
May I ask who’s your enrollment coach, I feel like mine is not doing his job.
Deann Placencia. I feel like she’s helping but not giving it her all. I’m sure it’s stressful at this time, but also for us as well. Brandman univeristy is waiting on one of my colleges official transcript. However, it’s just sitting in the mail waiting for them to collect as I didn’t have the option to send electronically from that college. So I let my coach know and she said turn in an UNoffical transcript and fill out the unofficial transcript agreement. So I did, and I wasn’t able to download or save my unofficial transcript online so I sent a screenshot to the appropriate email the coach provided me with. Then the coach says that’s unacceptable. So I was like I don’t know what else you want me to do. I can’t download or save the unofficial copy. You guys have my official transcript in office. I shouldn’t have my application jeapordized by something that is out of my control. Then I asked well I can’t print it and send a pic and she says IDK if that will work but you can try...those words just showed me all that I need to know..very discouraging so know I contracted my school via email to see if they can send electronically urgent. It’s been a day and haven’t heard back and now I see that they are accepting people for fall 2020 when the deadline is May 15th and not all applicants haven’t been received. I’m just stressed now LOL
@acarson7 Hi, I thought we were being notified on early June for the Fall 2020 program, but now I'm confused too. I thought the others were getting accepted to another Class because they've applied earlier? At least that's what my coach told me as well.
My coach told me notifications if accepted or denied will take after application deadline which is May 15 but didn’t give me too much on that. My coach is keeping things very short with me unfortunately ?
@acarson from what I know, I thought Fall was August. I applied for Summer 2020 (May) and I will start my nursing core in January 2021. I Have my enrollment coach meeting next Thursday. I will keep you updated.
No those of us who just got accepted to start in May applied for the Spring 2020 session. So the people who are getting accepted right now aren’t those who applied for fall 2020
For those asking about start dates vs applications deadlines. You are asking 2 different questions. Your applications is due to apply into a program for a specific time line, let's say Fall start (may deadline) That means they take all apps and review them and weed out who they don't want or do want. They contact you and if you need classes they start you on track in Fall with what you need to take, as you finish courses they keep checking off those pre-reqs. Once those are done they start your core nurse classes and that is dependent only on passing grades in the above courses first.
Summer applicants, start Summer or fall based on what they need. From what I gathered if you needed nothing, you start nurse core in Fall and basically skip Summer. If needing courses you start in Summer and then move into Fall. They take a whole new set of people in Fall also, but those are a totally different cohort.
Thank you all for your responses and help! I was very worried for a moment there cause I thought people were getting accepted for the cohort that I applied for, but you just cleared it up @Chunkybubblz3 Thank you! Hoping everyone for the best outcome!
This school seems to be very unorganized and misleading. My enrollment coach made it sound as though I would get into the program for Summer 2020. I was denied and waitlisted. I asked him why, he said "there may have been an error in your evaluation." A week went by so I emailed him today (after reading a new group of people were getting accepted).
The enrollment coach then told me I was not accepted to the program due to my Anatomy, Physiology, and Microbiology courses not being transferable. I took my Anatomy, Physiology, and Microbiology at California State University San Marcos (with straight A's), I even told this to the enrollment coach prior applying. I have also read people in this forum running into issues with City College courses. Not accepting course work from CSU's or City College sounds off to me. Although the enrollment coach did mention in the near future the Director MIGHT accept courses from those universities.?
The enrollment coach also stated that Brandman's Anatomy, Physiology, and Microbiology courses were upper division courses (300's). I have been researching Anatomy, Physiology, and Microbiology courses at UC's, CSU's and City Colleges, none have those courses list as upper division. Correct me if I am wrong but it sounds as though those who applied and were accepted are basically retaking science courses, in addition to the Brandman specific G.E. type courses (even if you have a prior bachelors degree). Making students pay for 2-3 additional semester before starting their clinicals, sounds like a money pit to me and not like an ABSN program. I have never heard of an ABSN programs making you take a year of course work before starting clinicals.
My reason for applying to the program was to avoid the TEAS test LOL, start clinicals ASAP (Summer 2020) and be finish 16 months later. However, It sounds like Brandman sales the program under that sales line but that is inaccurate. I have heard the 16 months turn to 18 months then 24 months from my enrollment coach. Now a year of G.E. (even with a CSU Bachelor's degree) prior to the ever changing time line of the nursing core and clinicals. I regret not taking the TEAS and applying to other schools. I really wish Brandman was open and honest from the beginning!
I applied for a similar reason as you ABSN_SD - because I was told my 30 year old sciences were acceptable and it saved me retaking them, and I wanted to be done in 16 months (I have a Masters, am finishing Doctorate, have been a licensed acupuncturist for almost 30 years so it's not like I don't know a lot of this stuff . . .). Prereqs at Cal State San Marcos not acceptable? I am being asked to come up with course syllabi for classes 30 years ago - don't think it's happening, and like you say, who has upper division A&P?
But I did hear from my enrollment coach today that they are still "pushing through additional Summer 2020 spots." But I don't know if it's worth having to repeat Chemistry and Biology too if they don't even accept those. I was also told "If you are not assigned a spot by May 4th, you will be notified about how to move your application to Fall 2020 and any additional documents (course syllabi, etc) will be needed by May 15th."
It would be unusual for any school to take 30+ year old science courses. At the best I've seen for medical school or PA school they have done 7 years vs the standard 5 years. Many even expire out gen ed courses like Freshman English or Pyschology etc at a 10 yr time limit. I found it frustrating also, for many people they have higher degrees and those courses were done in those degrees. And each one takes a few years to complete from BS level. 3 years for the masters to finish then another 2-3 sometimes more depending on field for phd. It went into medicine you had BS done then med school at 4 yrs and residency. All courses then are technically expired. But that is also why I'm seeing many of those require MCAT or GRE or MBA exams that cover those materials and the scores you end up with show what you have retained from those past courses. In accupuncture, your not using Chemistry or physics or even biology even in your career. You had a basic knowledge when taking classes but your specialty is where you use "acupuncture" skills and there is not any formulas or Chemistry being done. It is a body knowledge and that is also based on a chinese/eastern philosophy vs western medicine in nursing. It would be entirely different if your degree was in biomedicine or you worked as and anesthesia assistant where they do utilize Chemistry in their job and anatomy and physiology just to work on patients.
As for upper level division AP or anatomy courses. Some people like myself do have those as I had to along with Micro and Bio. My past career and degree I had to retake them although I had them at community college also, they didn't count as they were required to be upper level 300+ level classes to count. It sucked but the 2nd time around esp Statistics I admit was a lot easier.
Hopefully that helps answer some questions. It seems to me they took people that applies that already had all these classes (recently) and gave preferential treatment to those with a BS degree already or higher also. All others either got declined or waitlisted.
They really should have had a more detailed catalog for applying so students knew what to expect. Granted it is a new program and has had many kinks along it short journey. I think this program esp because it's called ABSN which at every other school is for students with a second Bachelors degree and zero healthcare experience. They tend to be accelerated and less time because of that other degree. The direct entry (pre-license) BSN programs most places are 3 years not 2 like this one. And still require all the science pre-reqs, but not a degree already. They also a lot of time have their own allotted seats for students bridging in with a LVN or are ADN to give them their Bachelors degree, those are also shorter programs because they give them credits for transferring in as nurses already.
This school just hasn't quite situated itself enough yet to have that many subcategories. Give it time, I bet it will considering it has the post grad programs in place and those are not new to the school.
the 3-4 of us who have been accepted in the past week are to start May and our nursing cohort starts Jan 2021.
I start in September for nurse core classes. I was accepted in May term. So not everyone starts in January. I think it depended on what you took already and what was accepted. I don't have anything else to take but nurse classes. But I have taken science courses as lower division and upper division so mine are very recent and A grades and I do think GPA was a big deal in choices of applicants since they didn't have TEAS test required for this school. Although I did already have mine so maybe that helped also.
Yes, I agree. I think it was the Chemistry and Bio that shocked me so much. I did expect to have to have to repeat the A & P. Regarding acupuncture in California, we are primary care practitioners. We can order labs and imaging studies. This is part of the required training:
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Deann Placencia. I feel like she’s helping but not giving it her all. I’m sure it’s stressful at this time, but also for us as well. Brandman univeristy is waiting on one of my colleges official transcript. However, it’s just sitting in the mail waiting for them to collect as I didn’t have the option to send electronically from that college. So I let my coach know and she said turn in an UNoffical transcript and fill out the unofficial transcript agreement. So I did, and I wasn’t able to download or save my unofficial transcript online so I sent a screenshot to the appropriate email the coach provided me with. Then the coach says that’s unacceptable. So I was like I don’t know what else you want me to do. I can’t download or save the unofficial copy. You guys have my official transcript in office. I shouldn’t have my application jeapordized by something that is out of my control. Then I asked well I can’t print it and send a pic and she says IDK if that will work but you can try...those words just showed me all that I need to know..very discouraging so know I contracted my school via email to see if they can send electronically urgent. It’s been a day and haven’t heard back and now I see that they are accepting people for fall 2020 when the deadline is May 15th and not all applicants haven’t been received. I’m just stressed now LOL