Being a pre-med is so overated

[Ambreree]

Nothing upsets me more when a pre-meds bashes the nursing profession. After hovering over the SDN site (student doctor network) I find that a lot of pre-meds thinks that nurses are below them when they are not even in med school yet! I just don't understand their mentality of why they can sit on their high horses all day and talk about nurses because they're "aspiring doctors". And it is not even the SDN site, it is also the pre-meds at my university that made me want to check out the site anyway.

They tried to talk me out of being a nurse because some thing called the nursing module is stupid and take a thousand year for a nursing to do any obvious diagnosing and it should be only up to the doctors to that. So nothing gets my blood boiling when people think they are better than you then actually worrying about being a considerate, capable doctor w/o bashing the nurses!

Rant over. I was going to rant on the SDN forum but I'm not a pre-med and I don't think they care much.

[NurseGirl525, ASN, RN]

Why were you on that forum? Just wondering. I honestly could care less what pre-med students think.......

i saw saw some fascinating things from residents last week trying to do a central line for the first time. It made me fee better that they fumble around just like we do when learning!!!

[Julius Seizure]

Theres no need for the nurses to go stick up for themselves over there. Its just a website with a bunch of people who have a lot to shout about from behind their computer screens. So what. And you know, people do the same here and all the "poor doctors" aren't here to defend themselves either. So what?

Occasionally a med student or doctor will find their way over here to inform all the nurses of just how unimportant they are. Why even bother? Its just a website on the internet. Save your righteous indignation for later, you will need it at work!

[Ambreree]

@NurseGirl525 Lol really? That's cute. Oh and I was on the forum because I was talking to some pre-meds (2 guys) today in my college's gym. We were talking and they asked me if I was pre-med because I was in one of their Orgo class and I told them no, my major was nursing. And then one of them started laughing and tell me the nursing program at the school was not good and to don't go into the profession, yada yada. Long story short, they told me to look into medicine and gave me the SDN site.

I'm not a very confrontational person and I let it go at the time until I actually got the site this afternoon to see what a pre-med was really about and got pretty heated by it to the point of having to rant about it.

I'm calm now so lol story of my life.

[Ambreree]

Theres no need for the nurses to go stick up for themselves over there. Its just a website with a bunch of people who have a lot to shout about from behind their computer screens. So what. And you know, people do the same here and all the "poor doctors" aren't here to defend themselves either. So what?

Occasionally a med student or doctor will find their way over here to inform all the nurses of just how unimportant they are. Why even bother? Its just a website on the internet. Save your righteous indignation for later, you will need it at work!

Why can't I like you comment? There's no like button.

[Pangea Reunited, ASN, RN]

Why can't I like you comment? There's no like button.

If they posted while you were "composing", you might not see a like button until you reload.

[Maevish, ASN, RN]

I heard things like that when I was pre-med and to tell you the truth, most of them (myself included) probably had no idea exactly how much nurses do. I thought any idiot could be a nurse and, while that seems true in some extremely few cases, the majority of nurses are crazy smart and do their jobs very well.

It's ignorance, plain and simple. When I work at teaching hospitals they're always amazing because the interns and some of the residents ask us questions and want our opinions because they've finally realized that we've been with patients much longer than they have. Those hospitals are the best because there seems to be much more back and forth than with older doctors who are set in their ways.

Some older doctors still hold onto the fact that nurses "in their day" used to literally stand up when they came into a room and got their coffee for them (can you imagine??!!) and my mom remembers those days from when she was an orderly.

They probably don't help if they're talking to their students about us that way either.

Just don't pay them any mind because, while it's annoying, most of them either won't get into med school or they'll realize the nonsense they're spewing. lol

xo

[missmollie, ADN, BSN, RN]

Don't worry about it. You can roll your eyes after you ask the doctor for lasix and a neb, and laugh when after 20 minutes of talking to your patient...he orders lasix and a neb.

Doctor's are necessary, and to be honest, they have a skill set that we don't. In the same way, we also have a skill set that they don't. Together, we provide the patient with exactly what they need.

Note: The nurse spends way more time with the patient.

just sayin'.

[Purple_roses]

I'm happy I haven't experienced this. There's a pre-med guy I work with right now, and he's such a solid guy. Fun to talk to, inquisitive about nursing, respectful. I've also met several doctors (during clinicals) who are solid people and simply refreshing to be around. Sure, there are awful docs, just like there are awful nurses, awful police, awful firefighters, etc.

[Purple_roses]

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Thank you for replying and I just typed in "nursing" on the pre-med forum. If you go through a lot of the threads you can see that being a doctor is always the answer compared to wiping buts.

I'm not going to read much on there, but from what I just checked out, people are wondering if nursing is a better route than pre-med, with the eventual goal of going to med school. Many believe that nursing is not well-suited for entry to med school, in part because the nursing model and medical model are very different. I think that's just a fact. That's not to say that MDs who became nurses first made a bad decision. People just have varying opinions on the best route to take.

[Purple_roses]

@NurseGirl525 Lol really? That's cute. Oh and I was on the forum because I was talking to some pre-meds (2 guys) today in my college's gym. We were talking and they asked me if I was pre-med because I was in one of their Orgo class and I told them no, my major was nursing. And then one of them started laughing and tell me the nursing program at the school was not good and to don't go into the profession, yada yada. Long story short, they told me to look into medicine and gave me the SDN site.

Tell them to get back with you when they actually get accepted to med school.

[Horseshoe, BSN, RN]

Why you care what a bunch of college kids think about your profession is beyond me. Debating them isn't likely to change their opinion. Life experience may be the only thing which works for them. And most students who start out pre-med don't even make to med school anyway.

[bgxyrnf, MSN, RN]

As seen on a thread titled 'Doctors vs Nurses'...

I have no idea of context but the simple statement that "It's more likely that a doctor could do a nurse's job than vice versa" is, in some sense, correct.

Or to paraphrase: Much less damage would be caused by having a physician suddenly fill in for me for a shift than if I were to suddenly be given the authority to fill in for the physician for a shift.

More succinctly, more expertise is required to be a functional physician than to be a functional nurse.

Regardless, most physicians that I know (and I know quite a lot of them), would immediately place the slap-down on a student or resident who tried to devalue the roles of the nurses...

I actually did have a 2nd year medicine resident give me some 'tude. He was informed in no uncertain terms by one of our chief residents that his attitude was not welcome in our ED.