Assessment and Urgency a thing of the past?

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Hi All,

Truly disgusted today!

Tuesday Father in law found lethargic, and having aspirated while vomiting-brought to our local hospital (not mine) where I swear they manufacture Stepford-like nurses aka the doctor's handmaidens-not allowed opinions, recommendations, or questioning of procedures.

As he vomited and aspirated more, no one came...I caught, suctioned, cleaned up, etc all while he was in an untreated rapid afib...when the nurses came to ASSIST-remarks like 'so glad we have windows to see the day,' and 'yeah it's really not busy here were spoken' all while his oxygen readings plummeted due to additional aspiration. WHAT? The man was dying, and yours truly was getting the doctor, asking for respiratory and what ever else while the nurses waltzed around the ER in the slowest state of movement I have ever seen! When the physician finally got into his room-maybe 20 minutes later-after much fussing by me-he was satting 83%-he finally realized they may have to tube him(YOU THINK?)-guess what? DNR! Oh well, the doc says we'll see what respiratory can do. WHAT? Thank God the respiratory therapist was able to deep suction him(I swear it was like a bronchoscopy)-tons of crap removed-immediately his oxygen went up. SHE WAS GREAT! Reluctantly they returned with digoxin to slow his HR....I swear even though this is a Catholic Hospital they were trying to help him along to the next life!

After being stabilized, and me up their butts I watched as patient after patient came in and was left to be seen. Some were not seen for an hour or more-screaming in pain. I was truly disturbed by their lack of urgency and what turned out to be crappy assessments. When we arrived to the floor and I started filling out the admission assessment with the nurse-many of the entries made in the ER were incorrect and seriously lacking in information. The doctor's information was wrong too! How can the floor nurse get the right picture, if the ER nurse doesn't take it? Tele did a great job for the 24 hours he spent there-he was stable-looked good-and had rebounded-THE MAN HAS NINE LIVES!

Unfortunately, he was moved to a med surg floor where nursing 101 needs to be retaught and doctors need to remember that "Do no harm" includes keeping a patient comfortable and safe!

Thursday, came to room late in afternoon-he looks miserable, hallucinating (trying to put pants on/talking to people not there), jaundiced, and occasionally moaning. I say "dad are you okay-he says no -helped myself to pulse ox and listen to lungs-rales everywhere, oxgen 89%5Ln/c. Has anyone called respiratory-of course not-no tx all day. Then he tells me he is nauseous and his belly hurts. Remove blanket-HUGE BELLY-no BS-Tender to touch.WHY? Before I can call nurse Vomiting like crazy 600 brown bile laced vomit, aspiration AGAIN! No NG tube orders, nurses had no idea of his condition or history of sbo-not reported. BM smear for two days-did anyone think to do a head to toe? Doctor called no answer-they were afraid to call again...I ask why...am told the doctors bring them business and nurses are not to bother them....WHAT? I bothered him ALOT! Assist with NG tube-no meds ordered for comfort:madface:-Gi Consult to come-GI shows up at 11:30PM surprised to see me! Give him entire hx-don't say I am a nurse-didn't have to tell him. Tell him what I want-warn him he needs restraints or he will pull tubes. FINALLY A DOCTOR WHO IS WORTHWHILE-Listens to a nurse and orders appropriate care, but also adds nurse at St C....are much quieter, and don't normally offer their opinions---no kidding.

Finally leave at 1am, he's comfortable-belly has gone down and he seems peaceful-warn night nurse HE WILL PULL TUBE IF NOT RESTRAINED. Had to work all day yesterday...my place crazy, and unable to call until 4PM break...guess what-TUBE PULLED X2 WITH RESTRAINTS ON (or so they say), and husband tells me that he has no ng tube all day and has been vomiting-no bm and belly distended! Again aspirated-gurgling. I almost had a stroke! Called nursing station-no meds, nothing for pain, no anti nausea meds NOTHING ALL DAY! Pmd stated GI had to order, GI in surgery all day-GI had not ordered so nothing done. WHAT? No comfort, no actions, no advocacy, nothing. What if I werent a nurse? I am sick over this whole thing! Called the doctor again, told him I want him off the case...guess what, hospitalist told me he can't pick up case because PMD brings alot of people into hospital. Can't get transfer to my facility because we are packed! What a crock!

Right now I am so frustrated and had to tell you all. When a hospital is kissing physician butt like this the patients suffer. When a nurse is afraid-a term I heard from every shift, to call for orders or to offer suggestions, or report negative findings. There is something terribly wrong!

Last night a surgeon came to the bedside-10PM. Again, surprised to see someone there-I was in my scrubs and got the hairy eyeball. I watched as I gave this young doctor an account of his history and care while in the hospital, he said "I wouldn't encourage the nurses here to request things they don't know about, if you have a problem-speak with us directly. I am treating the patient and I know what he requires." I told him that was an interesting statement, as his nurse or any other nurse is at bedside for the shift-and that he isn't. His few minutes of observation needed to be augmented by good assessments throughout the day. He asked me where I worked, I told him....oh, no wonder....nurses are aggressive there. :madface::madface::madface::madface: My response, "no the physicians and nurses respect each other's opinions-both are advocates for the patients, something that should be tried here!"

Anyway, when I left at 1am last night-more meds ordered by surgery-restraint order still in place BUT I APPLIED. Today, ng tube was still in nose, but curled up out of stomach. New to be inserted, at least stomach decompressed.

Floor nurses is this the norm at your facilities? Do doctors not call, write orders or take your recommendations? Frankly, I am floored by this!

As far as, assessing patients how often is it done on the floor? If someone came to you with a significant history, and problems like I described would it still be 1x per shift or more. I would assume more. I don't know how to proceed! I am like a fish out of water, and truly feel like kicking this doctor all over town!

So sorry this is long-had to give you the whole picture. I am really disgusted by this facilities policy towards doctors and the handcuffing of nurses and their opinions. Don't know what else to do. Any suggestions?

Maisy:banghead:

Specializes in Telemetry, Case Management.

Maisy, I am appalled at the "care" or lack thereof, that your F-I-L has had to endure from these people. Please, don't let up on your reporting/berating/fury against these ridiculous people at the hospital. Nobody should be treated that shabbily. And I find it sickening that the nurses there are "afraid" of the doctors. :madface::scrying:

I don't know what else to say, except again, I am so dreadfully sorry that your family has had to deal with this, and that you are 100% correct in your feelings about it all.:icon_hug:

Anyway, he whispered today there's a reason for everything as I cried at his bedside. I have decided that reason will drive my continued education. If nurses are still "handmaidens to half-assed, non-responsive, slow to act doctors" ---then my goal will be to change that. The nurses in this facility seemed shocked at my assertiveness, and the doctors annoyed by my suggestions, questions and comments. TOO BAD! It will be my continued pleasure to SHAKE THIS UP. This facility hasn't seen anything yet! But they will.

I am very angry and very sad. I don't how I'll change things, but you guys will know when I do.

Maisy:stone

this IS the reason maisy.....take it and run......may you win

Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, ED.

No, no, NO! This is not the norm at my facility! Your loved one may not get their pillow fluffed as soon as they'd like, but basic care like this is not ignored!

We do a head to toe at the beginning of every shift, then mini assessments PRN throughout.

What a nightmare! ((hugs))

I'm sorry your FIL is going through all of this. I'm glad you are reporting this hospital, since other people will suffer. Let us know what happens at this hospital. Maybe the media needs to know what goes on there?

Specializes in Critical Care, Progressive Care.
Just an update. FIL is on his way to hospice care-his condition has detiorated to the point of no return. That physician and hospital staff helped him over Niagara falls and no one put out a hand to catch him.

Thanks for the update Maisy - you both remain in my prayers.

What I find most disturbing is that your FIL has suffered needlessly at the end of his life.

He is lucky to have you as his advocate. Moreover, your continued attention to his lack of care makes you an advocate for the future patients of this hospital.

Specializes in CNA, Surgical, Pediatrics, SDS, ER.

Maisy- I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. That is awful that they made your FIL suffer that way. You and your family are in my prayers.

Some of our docs can be very intimidating and think they know all but that does not stop us from advocating for our pts. :nono:

There is always your initial assessment but any changes that warrant a physicians attention requires another assessment. This hospital I would say was abusive and negligent towards your FIL denying him basic care/comfort needs. Placing him in a hallway w/out the proper equipment is horrifying your whole situation is. I would take this as high as it can go. I certainly would not want them caring for any of my family members or anybody else for that matter. I'm glad that you never backed down and stood your ground :yeah:since no one in that awful place had a backbone or the brains to advocate for their patients rights.

God bless you and family.

Specializes in ER/EHR Trainer.

Just got home from the hospice, everyone there couldn't be nicer or more attentive. FIL breathing and comfort level has improved 100%-PMD IS BANNED! This jerk actually had the nerve to inform them he would follow the case. That was over my dead body!

A little ativan, roxanol and fentanyl patch has made all the difference. He can breathe, has relaxed and is reporting 0/10 pain. He can actually talk without grunting, and is clean and relaxed.

They have made him comfortable-all anyone can ask at the end of life. This is all I've ever wanted for him, comfort and some dignity. The hospital definately afforded him none!

Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers. I will let you know what occurs as the saga continues

Maisy

I am sorry to read of your f-i-l decline. My prayers and thoughts are with you all. I am glad to read that at least now, that your f-i-l is being treated with care, comfort and dignity. That is not too much to ask at all. I hope you and your family find peace in that and it eases your pain somewhat. GOD keep you all.:saint:

Specializes in ER/EHR Trainer.

Today FIL passed quietly, surrounded by family and comfortable in hospice care. They couldn't have been nicer to him or us. The past 24 hours he appeared so relaxed. Thanks to everyone for their kind thoughts, prayers and words. Right now, just spending time with the family....will let you know when I escalate issues to the appropriate people.

Thank God his troubles are over.

Maisy

I am sorry for your loss. My sympathy to you and your's. May he rest in peace. I am grateful to read that your f-i-l and your family were treated with dignity and kindness and that your f-i-l was comfortable in his final days. GOD keep you all.

Maisy, I am so sorry things went so bad for your father in law, and glad he had a good last day in the hospice.

After you've grieved and rested, I hope you keep going after that hospital and get them nailed.

You are a tough lady but take care of yourself too. Let us know how your battle goes. (((hugs)))

Specializes in Critical Care, Progressive Care.
Today FIL passed quietly, surrounded by family and comfortable in hospice care. They couldn't have been nicer to him or us. The past 24 hours he appeared so relaxed. Thanks to everyone for their kind thoughts, prayers and words. Right now, just spending time with the family....will let you know when I escalate issues to the appropriate people.

Thank God his troubles are over.

Maisy

Memory Eternal!

I am sorry for your loss, but I am also glad that your father knew some comfort in his final hours. Thank you for being his advocate. And thank you for sharing your story.

L.

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