First of all I want to say I LOVE ALLNURSES!!! It has been the best resource for me for so many things.
Sadly, I have noticed in the last year or so that there are more and more negative postings. Some OP’s will post innocent topics and get torn a new one for nothing. Why?
We should be encouraging one another and not be putting people down. The saying "nurses eat their young"….I once thought it was not true, but I am beginning to think it is.
I am not trying to pinpoint nurses who have been in the field for many years; however, I have noticed many negative comments come from people who have forgotten what it was like to start out as a nurse. Other comments that are nasty I figure are from people who just have low self esteem and want to tear someone apart to feel better.
Maybe the economy is just taking a toll on people? Whatever it is I hate to see it. I love Allnurses. I would hate to see it become a negative place where people can’t share their thoughts without the fear of ridicule.
Plain and simply, YES. When I joined AN a couple of years ago it was a really positive, uplifting, encouraging community. Now it's loaded with smart as$es, who lurk around the site just looking for a way to put someone in "their place." Get a life. Ppl post the most innocent questions/opinions and get tore apart for no real reason at all. Guess what, guys... If you don't like what the OP is saying, or if you feel like you're repeating information that's already clear, DO NOT RESPOND! You know just as well as I where the exit is. Keep your sarcastic comments to yourself because in all honesty dude, you're behind a computer screen. Don't post trash here you wouldn't say to my face.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
first of all i want to say i love allnurses!!! it has been the best resource for me for so many things.
sadly, i have noticed in the last year or so that there are more and more negative postings. some op's will post innocent topics and get torn a new one for nothing. why? we should be encouraging one another and not be putting people down. the saying "nurses eat their young"....i once thought it was not true, but i am beginning to think it is. i am not trying to pinpoint nurses who have been in the field for many years; however, i have noticed many negative comments come from people who have forgotten what it was like to start out as a nurse. other comments that are nasty i figure are from people who just have low self esteem and want to tear someone apart to feel better. maybe the economy is just taking a toll on people? whatever it is i hate to see it. i love allnurses. i would hate to see it become a negative place where people can't share their thoughts without the fear of ridicule.
i want to know why so many new nurses, nursing students, about to be students and wannabes are so convinced that if you disagree with them it's because you've forgotten what it's like to start out as a nurse. i remember vividly, but i still disagree with many of the opinions voiced that all seasoned nurses are nasty old hags or eat their young, and that preceptors ought to be "nurturing." i suspect that there's a lot more "old eating" than "young eating", but i think both expressions are nonsense.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
We need a "snarky, old nurses" forum.
Where do I sign up? R A W R !!!! (imma eatchoo up)
But seriously, I keep reading comments "this forum is pretty tame and there are others way worse than here". Where? I've only found 2 other nurse forums and they were :zzzzz with far fewer participants.
Where do I sign up? R A W R !!!! (imma eatchoo up)
But seriously, I keep reading comments "this forum is pretty tame and there are others way worse than here". Where? I've only found 2 other nurse forums and they were :zzzzz with far fewer participants.
I can't really comment on AN in the past vs. its present iteration from my four-month-long membership perspective.
I do frequent a fair number of other forums (work-oriented and not), and this one is relatively calm compared to the others. Yes, people here can occasionally be catty, sharp, or emphatic in debate; however, most of the arguments seem to come from honest disagreements in position or philosophy, as opposed to springing from out and out rudeness or the desire to personally attack others as a form of enjoyment.
I really don't think it's negativity. It is more the fact that people on here may be more opinionated or assertive then your use to possibly. Opposite opinion then one that you have may seem negative to you but may receive a kudos to someone who shares the same opinion. I don't see name calling on these threads or anyone harrassing or calling people stupid on these threads or being hostile, now that's negativity. An opposite opinion in my book is NOT negative. It is how one voices their opinion that may be negative so a callous person is negative but their view or opinion is not.
You are absolutely right, having an opinion different from someone elses is not negative. It's differences that make the world go round. However, expressing that opinion in a rude and sarcastic manner is negative.
i swore to myself, i wasn't going to respond to this thread.
i lied.
just let me say this:
i've been on board for 10 yrs. and absolutely nothing has changed.
and why should it?
human nature, people's personalities and all their quirks, moods/dispositions, qualities/characteristics...
none of them come and go.
they just are.
there were argumentative people around 10 yrs ago, and they remain today.
there were hyper-sensitive people around 10 yrs ago, and they remain today.
there were self-righteous and arrogant people around 10 yrs ago, and here i still am.
my point being, negativity isn't a trend, anymore than a kumbayah mentality is.
we are unique beings who respond accordingly, to posts/that reflect who we are.
i will concede that some may be feeling crankier these days, for whatever reason.
but even that doesn't always manifest itself as negativity.
some will appear as more vulnerable and needy of support.
bottom line, nothing's changed from when i joined in 2000.
an's remains predictably unpredictable.:)
leslie
I swore to myself too Leslie . . . .
And I've been here since 2001 and Leslie is right - although there have been ebbs and flows.
Also, as wooh mentioned, the mods cannot read every single thread/post so if you find something offensive, hit the "report" button.
And Ruby is absolutely right . . . the generalization "nurses eat their young" . .. is nonsense.
In every group of people, there are jerks. There is nothing about being a nurse that makes you more apt to be one. If you act badly as a nurse, you acted badly before you were a nurse.
Truly - I haven't noticed any real big changes in tone since I started posting here. Just occasional heated conversations where the mods will close a thread down for a cooling off.
This site has never been full of cotton candy comments with no controversy.
First of all I want to say I LOVE ALLNURSES!!! It has been the best resource for me for so many things.
Sadly, I have noticed in the last year or so that there are more and more negative postings. Some OP's will post innocent topics and get torn a new one for nothing. Why?
We should be encouraging one another and not be putting people down. The saying "nurses eat their young"....I once thought it was not true, but I am beginning to think it is.
I am not trying to pinpoint nurses who have been in the field for many years; however, I have noticed many negative comments come from people who have forgotten what it was like to start out as a nurse. Other comments that are nasty I figure are from people who just have low self esteem and want to tear someone apart to feel better.
Maybe the economy is just taking a toll on people? Whatever it is I hate to see it. I love Allnurses. I would hate to see it become a negative place where people can't share their thoughts without the fear of ridicule.
I have to disagree; there is a wide range of nurses in allnurses. We all come from different back grounds and work experiences. We all have different opinions therefore there is going to be disagreement. To have a heated debate is a good thing because it opens the topic up to all opinions. I am not suggesting that there should be cussing, threats and things of that nature. A while back, I received an email warning from Allnurses for calling someone a hypocrite for her conflicting point of view. While she is correct for expiring her opinion, it opens the door for criticism, just as my own opinion is just as my own opinion is open for criticism. So, I do not think calling someone a hypocrite is wrong. It is calling someone out on a point that they made that is hypocritical. Nor do I think telling someone they are wrong who was fired for lying or steeling is a bad thing. If we have to be politically correct and polite this would be a very boring cite and not worth my time. There would be no real debate because we would be too scared that someone feelings might be hurt.
To have a heated debate is a good thing because it opens the topic up to all opinions. I am not suggesting that there should be cussing, threats and things of that nature. A while back, I received an email warning from Allnurses for calling someone a hypocrite for her conflicting point of view. While she is correct for expiring her opinion, it opens the door for criticism, just as my own opinion is just as my own opinion is open for criticism. So, I do not think calling someone a hypocrite is wrong. It is calling someone out on a point that they made that is hypocritical.
absolutely nothing wrong with heated debate.
however, everyone needs to comply with the terms of service.
and one of those terms, is no personal attacks.
therefore, calling someone a hypocrite is warranted as such, and a warning was issued.
that said, there are ways to get one's point across w/o getting dinged.
instead of calling someone a hypocrite, you could have responded with, "that sounds hypocritical to me, because of a, b, and c."
and you would have been fine.
just something to remember for any future debates.:)
(imma eatchoo up)
ImASuckyCMA87
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Plain and simply, YES. When I joined AN a couple of years ago it was a really positive, uplifting, encouraging community. Now it's loaded with smart as$es, who lurk around the site just looking for a way to put someone in "their place." Get a life. Ppl post the most innocent questions/opinions and get tore apart for no real reason at all. Guess what, guys... If you don't like what the OP is saying, or if you feel like you're repeating information that's already clear, DO NOT RESPOND! You know just as well as I where the exit is. Keep your sarcastic comments to yourself because in all honesty dude, you're behind a computer screen. Don't post trash here you wouldn't say to my face.
I WANT THE OLD AN BACK!!! =(