Are you a nurse with "alternative" spiritual beliefs?

[GadgetRN71]

If so, have you gotten grief from coworkers or patients because of it? Tell your stories here!!I'm pagan, and I'm pretty low key about it. I have nothing against Jesus. If he existed, I think he must have been a pretty cool dude. But, I don't consider myself a Christian per se. I've worn jewelry that represents my faith and gotten raised eyebrows and a few comments here and there, but nothing I can't handle. Patients have been pretty ok with it but maybe that's the pre-op drugs doing their job, lol.

[liberated847]

What about point #1 do you disagree with?

Like the first comment after the article stated:

"The clinical diagnosis of schizophrenia and various other psychoses involves a number of salient factors and symptoms that if demonstrated to hold indicate psychopathology. These include delusions of reference (being referred to by or referring to people or conscious beings that do not exist), auditory and visual hallucinations (including the belief in witnessing miracles and heaing the voices of a god or gods in some way), and general paranoia: including being concerned about being watched or believing one is being watched often. Especially if a person believes they are always being watched."

I do see valid points on the rest.

[heron, ASN, RN]

Re that first point, I see a difference between religious faith and religiosity. So you're both right, just talking about two different things.

[2011RN]

Do not believe in a god or gods...Buddhist here!

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

Do not believe in a god or gods...Buddhist here!

By rising to a level of ethical and moral perfection, wouldn't that make Buddha a deity? And if not, what is his placement within the religion?

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

Just for fun, I can change the context of the above quote that compares religious people to the mentally ill, into new statements that atheism is akin to mental illness. And that those who disbelieve in anything of a spiritual nature are living in a state of ignorant denial......so, not meant to insult anyone, just merely the irrelevant opinion of someone on the Internet.

Debating the post alone, here we are.

[liberated847]

Just for fun, I can change the context of the above quote that compares religious people to the mentally ill, into new statements that atheism is akin to mental illness. And that those who disbelieve in anything of a spiritual nature are living in a state of ignorant denial......so, not meant to insult anyone, just merely the irrelevant opinion of someone on the Internet.

Debating the post alone, here we are.

Yes you could say that and I respect your opinion. What's more plausible though? Talking snakes and miracles or natural processes and scientific explanations? :)

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

Yes you could say that and I respect your opinion. What's more plausible though? Talking snakes and miracles or natural processes and scientific explanations? :)

Some things named as miracles may very well BE scientific processes, but the fact that they occured at a time and place when they were so needed might just indicate "miraculous" status. A scientific basis does not negate a spiritual intent.

I also believe that you would find most people who use the Bible in some manner, in the practice of their faith, to not take every word literally. Some yes, but most....I think not.

You see talking snakes, I see metaphors. And those who want only to laugh at the idea of talking snakes will probably never study far enough to learn what the meaning might ACTUALLY be...true knowledge is deeper than on-the-surface reading without study. But lacking study....yes, I can certainly see how people would fail to understand what else it might mean, and the value it might hold.

People who lack education and understanding are by definion ignorant of what they have not learned. Therefore, it is reasonable to say that those who are ignorant of the value of sacred texts have much to learn before engaging in discourse with people who are learned of such texts.

[LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN]

Some things named as miracles may very well BE scientific processes, but the fact that they occured at a time and place when they were so needed might just indicate "miraculous" status. A scientific basis does not negate a spiritual intent.

I also believe that you would find most people who use the Bible in some manner, in the practice of their faith, to not take every word literally. Some yes, but most....I think not.

You see talking snakes, I see metaphors. And those who want only to laugh at the idea of talking snakes will probably never study far enough to learn what the meaning might ACTUALLY be...true knowledge is deeper than on-the-surface reading without study. But lacking study....yes, I can certainly see how people would fail to understand what else it might mean, and the value it might hold.

Sometimes that's the beauty of learning religious texts in an academic setting; I have had the fortunate opportunity to engage in reading the Bible, the Koran, and the Torah, as well as Budda's teachings and other religious texts in my university studies; understanding ethics, morality, through a spiritual context is a viewpoint worth examining.

[Lev, MSN, RN, NP]

Yes you could say that and I respect your opinion. What's more plausible though? Talking snakes and miracles or natural processes and scientific explanations? :)

Scientific explanations are man made and based on observations by the eyes of men. There were no scientific explanations thousands of years ago. Did they have a mental illness too or were they just not aware?

Are you perhaps Jewish by cultural and/or biological ancestry, Liberated?

[liberated847]

The problem I have is that you can assign arbitrary meaning to any text bible or scientific that's why I tend to favor science and the scientific process. Also, just because billions believe something to be true, it doesn't make it so. I'm open minded but when people cherry pick and assign meaning where there's none I get skeptical. I will remain respectful here as I'm truly looking to engage in conversation rather than insult anyone

[liberated847]

[quote=Lev Are you saying there's other eyes aside from man on these matters? If so, what's your evidence?A plausible explanation about people thousands of years ago is that they invented a god/gods to fill gaps in knowledge. I hypothesize that in 2000 years we may see Jehovah the same way we see Zeus and Thor today. Sadly we may have another God, perhaps a character of our current fiction such as Superman or Iron Man. There's no way for us to know the intent by those who wrote the bible but we can confidently say it is fiction if we apply the laws of physics and basic science

[Lev, MSN, RN, NP]

Ummm. The animal kingdom.