Nurses Professionalism
Published Oct 28, 2014
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malamud69, BSN, RN
575 Posts
Hmmmm...nurse...scrubs....concealed weapons. ...what could possibly go wrong?
Here.I.Stand, BSN, RN
5,047 Posts
Do you feel unsafe, or just wondering if they are violating policy? If you feel safe around this person then you have to consider if this is really anything you need to do something about...I hate to draw a parallel with little kids, but when they sense an injustice are they telling an adult because someone is in physical or emotional danger, or are they just tattling?
My hospital "bans deadly weapons" on premises, although that hasn't stopped rifraff visiting their "friends" in the hospital from bringing them into the building or firing them outside the building. This has happened several times in recent history where I work...fortunately they haven't killed anyone on hospital grounds. Personally I don't carry...based on my hand-eye coordination I would consider the risk to outweigh the benefit. But if I did, you can bet it would stay nice and concealed where my state allows it to be.
blondy2061h, MSN, RN
1 Article; 4,094 Posts
I know that it is useless in the car. But why would you bring it in a hospital? Not a place for a weapon. You have security there and if you are nervous walking out to your car, have them walk you out. I have plenty of times. I am all for gun rights don't get me wrong, but not at a medical facility inside.
Our security carries pepper spray. Don't bring pepper spray to a gun fight.
My state requires that people who conceal carry not allow people without a handgun permit to handle their gun, or have reasonably easy access to it. Since work lockers are company property and management has codes to them, that would not be considered a secure place to store it. Basically, here it's on your person or in a personal lock box designed to hold a firearm.
Mainergal2000
206 Posts
Are you anticipating a gun fight fight when you bring your gun to work at the hospital? I a not starting an argument but there is no place that at a medical facility. Just saying.
Wile E Coyote, ASN, RN
471 Posts
I carry a fire extinguisher in my vehicles. I've never had a car catch fire and I don't expect it to at any given moment, however I choose to be prepared for the possibility. An extinguisher isn't a talisman against flames, and I've no guarantee I can control every fire. It does leave me better prepared than not having I've at all.
I never said anything about bringing a gun to work with me personally, or even owning one.
No one who becomes a shooting victim in a setting like a hospital (or a school, or a bank, or the corner 7/11) anticipates partaking involuntarily in a gun fight. But if someone starts shooting, pepper spray ain't gonna do nuthin'. Some people want to have a better option if confronted with this situation than hiding behind a desk. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
TexasGal1964
7 Posts
I don't trust this person since I've seen her lose her temper frequently. She screams and yells and makes sure everyone knows that she's angry. She's a control-freak, a textbook narcissist, a brown noser, and a workplace bully. I obviously don't think very highly if her, but I would feel awful if I was responsible for her losing her job. But what if something bad did happen with the gun? I couldn't live with myself knowing that I could have done something to prevent it.
elkpark
14,633 Posts
I never said anything about bringing a gun to work with me personally, or even owning one. No one who becomes a shooting victim in a setting like a hospital (or a school, or a bank, or the corner 7/11) anticipates partaking involuntarily in a gun fight. But if someone starts shooting, pepper spray ain't gonna do nuthin'. Some people want to have a better option if confronted with this situation than hiding behind a desk. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
Thank you so much for reminding us of the NRA's favorite talking point. Too bad it's not true. According to the recent massive FBI report on mass shootings in the US:
■■ In 21 incidents (13.1%), the situation ended after unarmed citizens safely and successfully
restrained the shooter. In 2 of those incidents, 3 off-duty law enforcement
officers were present and assisted.
■■ Of note, 11 of the incidents involved unarmed principals, teachers, other school
staff and students who confronted shooters to end the threat (9 of those shooters
were students).
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/september/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents/pdfs/a-study-of-active-shooter-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013
I will happily grant you that 13.1% isn't a huge number; but it does mean that "a good guy with a gun" is not "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun." That number is also much better than the "armed citizen" number (a measly 3.1%, and only one of those incidents involved a regular citizen who was armed; the rest were armed security guards):
■■ In 5 incidents (3.1%), the shooting ended after armed individuals who were not law
enforcement personnel exchanged gunfire with the shooters. In these incidents, 3 shooters were killed, 1 was wounded, and 1 committed suicide.
■■ The individuals involved in these shootings included a citizen with a valid firearms
permit and armed security guards at a church, an airline counter, a federally
managed museum, and a school board meeting.
imintrouble, BSN, RN
2,406 Posts
So.....you want to report her because you don't like her.
At least be honest with yourself about your motives.
Guns are prohibited at the hospital where I work.
Bags are not checked at the door on arrival to work. So I assume there's at least one gun that's in the building at all times.
The rumor is the ER docs have them. I don't know.
Enough said right there. That right there is enough red flags for me. With that being said, you shouldn't even have to second guess that one or worrying about her losing her job. She sounds like a ticking time bomb. My question to you is, is it allowed to have a handgun in the facility. Bullies and handguns don't mix.
Been there,done that, ASN, RN
7,032 Posts
You forgot to add holster. Are you aware of the qualifications necessary to carry?
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