If you are reading this then you probably already know I live in GA, which means I am being effected by the State Board of Nursing no longer accepting Excelsior RN/ASN degree. I have paid the TCN $2000 so far, and still owe $2000 more. Since my program is no longer applicable, I want my money back... not some of the money.... all of it. TCN's respose to this entire mess is that because Sonny Purdue says "he wants to help distance learning nurses", TCN feels there is still hope that GA will change its mind... so I have been given the option of either continuing to wait for the next 10 yrs or so until they have a "final" decision for them to give all of my money back, or I can get half of my money back (by that I mean I have to pay them $2k, and they don't charge me the second $2k). Keep in mind... I HAVE NOT TAKEN ONE TEST WITHIN THIS TIME FRAME!!!!! I don't know what to do to get out of this, I am discouraged, and feel cheated. More than anything, I need that $2K to pay for school locally in GA if I can't finish my RN on line.
If anyone has any suggestion, at all, for how to proceed from here, please let me know. I feel backed into a corner, and my husband and myself are so upset.
i feel as if i am entitled to have my money back for several reasons; (1) this decision was made in july, and tcn has yet to contact any of their students being effected by the change in state law. (2) my contract actually does state tcn is aware my license would be from ny, however, that my license will be accepted through endorsement by the state of ga. (3) i have not taken any tests thus far, so their materials at this point are useless to me. i had previously completed all course work except for the nursing requirements. (4) i would have been happy for them to at least say that as of july my money would be returned, and that i would no longer be responsible for the remainder, as i am returning their materials to them. (5) at my local college, where i am currently enrolled (since this decision has been made) i am only paying $900/semester... i could pay for the rest of my asn with the money they are still asking me to pay.
i do not need that money in my hands; i need the money to pay for the degree i thought i would be getting from ec, via tcn. now that this is not the case, i want the money to pay for my current classes where my degree will actually be obtained.
please don't assume i did not read my contract carefully, because that is just not the case and i do feel just in my reasoning. take a look at it from my shoes... give me $4k of your money and let me shred it to pieces; what have you gained? the same thing i have, absolutely nothing. :angryfire
o yes i have spent money on excelsior, not 4k, as of yet, but closest to it. and i to live here in georgia, so i am affect by the recent bs with the ga bon. but i will not not have absolutely nothing, i will get my rn, and ga darn sure will endorse me, one way or the other( legal fight if necessary)!!!!!!! i will not sit back in defeat quietly, and cry. o lol i got off the subject somewhat.
ok, about tnc, if they are misrepresenting themselves to people, and, the contract that people are signing, states " degrees are granted from excelsior via tnc" and or " tnc grantees you will be license in ga through endorsement" then i stand corrected:bowingpur. but if if it doesn't all should have the facts before they sign anything that's binding. that's for anything you do in life, have the facts, or you will end up taken as a fool:(.
They tried to lock her into nine thousand dollars worth of study guides.
I can see how someone can get conned into one of these contracts. They are very smooth with their pitch.
I have a hard time saying no to salespersons, so when I know that I don't want something I go out of my way to avoid them.
I have purchased several of the publishing company study guides used on ebay. Guess what? They aren't anything to write home about. Not to the tune of $500 apiece. They aren't even worth what I paid for them used. The money would be better spent to buy books on the subjects on the exams and studying from them. That's my humble opinion.
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If you are reading this then you probably already know I live in GA, which means I am being effected by the State Board of Nursing no longer accepting Excelsior RN/ASN degree. I have paid the TCN $2000 so far, and still owe $2000 more. Since my program is no longer applicable, I want my money back... not some of the money.... all of it. TCN's respose to this entire mess is that because Sonny Purdue says "he wants to help distance learning nurses", TCN feels there is still hope that GA will change its mind... so I have been given the option of either continuing to wait for the next 10 yrs or so until they have a "final" decision for them to give all of my money back, or I can get half of my money back (by that I mean I have to pay them $2k, and they don't charge me the second $2k). Keep in mind... I HAVE NOT TAKEN ONE TEST WITHIN THIS TIME FRAME!!!!! I don't know what to do to get out of this, I am discouraged, and feel cheated. More than anything, I need that $2K to pay for school locally in GA if I can't finish my RN on line.
If anyone has any suggestion, at all, for how to proceed from here, please let me know. I feel backed into a corner, and my husband and myself are so upset.
It may sound expensive with the legal stuff, but you might be able to get at least a free one time legal consult. There must be something in the contract that would allow you to get back all your money. See if you can find a lawyer that will accept consignment, or you can research the legal aspect yourself and take them to court...at least you will qualify for the small claims court. I tell you, if this is bothering you now it will bother you more in the next few years .... if you do not do anything about this. give it your best and my prayers and oompah with you on this! Do not let this unprincipled, unsympathetic people get to you. fight them.
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so i have been given the option of either continuing to wait for the next 10 yrs or so until they have a "final" decision for them to give all of my money back, or i can get half of my money back (by that i mean i have to pay them $2k, and they don't charge me the second $2k).
if anyone has any suggestion, at all, for how to proceed from here, please let me know. i feel backed into a corner, and my husband and myself are so upset.
this one is easy. get out now. don't wait. it is not worth it. consider it an expensive lesson in life. actually you would be getting off cheap. there are many who have paid that company much more than 2k. google tcn and add search words like "scam" and "rip-off" and see what comes back. i see amounts like 5k, 7k, 9k being mentioned. they are completely unnecessary to pass.
you and your husband don't need to be sick about this. move on. i am recommending that all ga potential nursing students go the traditional brick and mortar route at this time. ec is too hard and too tough to only earn a degree that is not recognized in every state. i am sorry it is that way (i am an ec grad myself), but it is.
if there is a waiting list for a traditional nursing school then wait. take that time for you and your husband to enjoy each others company and to celebrate what you have as opposed to what you do not have. nursing school has been around for over 100 years. it will be there for you eventually.
If you are reading this then you probably already know I live in GA, which means I am being effected by the State Board of Nursing no longer accepting Excelsior RN/ASN degree. I have paid the TCN $2000 so far, and still owe $2000 more. Since my program is no longer applicable, I want my money back... not some of the money.... all of it. TCN's respose to this entire mess is that because Sonny Purdue says "he wants to help distance learning nurses", TCN feels there is still hope that GA will change its mind... so I have been given the option of either continuing to wait for the next 10 yrs or so until they have a "final" decision for them to give all of my money back, or I can get half of my money back (by that I mean I have to pay them $2k, and they don't charge me the second $2k). Keep in mind... I HAVE NOT TAKEN ONE TEST WITHIN THIS TIME FRAME!!!!! I don't know what to do to get out of this, I am discouraged, and feel cheated. More than anything, I need that $2K to pay for school locally in GA if I can't finish my RN on line.
If anyone has any suggestion, at all, for how to proceed from here, please let me know. I feel backed into a corner, and my husband and myself are so upset.
Take your case to the Better Business Bureau. That agency will do a thorough investigation. It is fair to you if the institution lost its good standing with BRN of your state, to give you your money back, place you and/or refer you to another institution. By losing their acreditation that isnstitution is no longer suitable to you. Therefore, you must find another institution where you can continue with your academic goals. Go to the BBB website, if they determine you have a valid complaint you'd be surprised how fast your money gets back to you. I submitted a complaint against a nursing journal ( I am not saying which) with the BBB and after the investigation ( three weeks) I had my money back within a week after the investigation was completed. felix3
Not upset with TCN upset with VA board of NSG, I am a LPN that has spent 14 years in ICU and ED, we had no Rn's when I started the only RN was the supervisor, now we have a community college putting out Rn's with no LPN after a two year program I am expected to train them as they have no hands on, most can not put in a Foley, Now we are going to be a all RN hospital Joke, New RN with out passing boards can come in and do charge in ICU or ED as LPN can no longer? we have done it for all these years, then I am expected to help them? I think not. These are the worst of the worst nurses I have ever had to work with. No clinical or very little clinical in school, we are in a very small rural area however The VA board thinks they are in proving things now Pt's will not come to the hosp for bad nsg care huge mistakes and the hospital is about to close great job Va board of nag and admin of hosp. I went to the LPN school the old hosp ran It was very difficult 32 of us started 6 of us grad. Rn school at college you have a guarantee you will grad and pass what has happened to the nursing profession No I am not mad at TCN I am mad with the Board of NSG.I am called from one end of the hosp to the other to help the new RN'S do everything from start a IV to doing a drug calc. I am proud I am a LPN and if this is what a RN is I am not sure I want to finish and be put in the same lot with them, Most here will tell you they became nurses because there was nothing else to do here no jobs and this is a good pay check. That is NOT why I became a NURSE.
We need the board to come up with something for long standing LPNs with experience to be grandfathered and be able to just sit boards.
I do not have a dog in this hunt, however, to me it seems that a class action suit against Georgia is needed. If these nurses pass the same boards as other schools, who are they to determine who is unsafe.
Thanks for the support, but your suggestion is just the problem. TCN ASN degree is from NY, and GA will no longer accept it by Endorsement... so, I'm afraid I'm just stuck. I will however, submit a complaint to the Better Business Bureau, as a last resort.
With the education you received fresh in your mind, have you considered challenging the LPN exam somewhere, to get your license? At least you could work with that, as students in RN programs do. Then you could contest the application of your accomplished licensure, to continuing your education at a recognized school.
Thank you for sharing your situation, so others are forewarned. :bowingpur
I feel as if I am ENTITLED to have my money back for several reasons; (1) this decision was made in July, and TCN has yet to contact any of their students being effected by the change in state law. (2) My contract actually does state TCN is aware my license would be from NY, however, that my license WILL BE ACCEPTED THROUGH ENDORSEMENT BY THE STATE OF GA. (3) I have not taken any tests thus far, so their materials at this point are useless to me. I had previously completed all course work except for the nursing requirements. (4) I would have been happy for them to at least say that as of July my money would be returned, and that I would no longer be responsible for the remainder, as I am returning their materials to them. (5) At my local college, where I am currently enrolled (since this decision has been made) I am only paying $900/semester... I could pay for the rest of my ASN with the money they are still asking me to pay.
I DO NOT NEED THAT MONEY IN MY HANDS; I need the money to pay for the degree I thought I would be getting from EC, via TCN. Now that this is not the case, I want the money to pay for my current classes where my degree will actually be obtained.
Please don't assume I did not read my contract carefully, because that is just not the case and I do feel just in my reasoning. Take a look at it from my shoes... give me $4K of your money and let me shred it to pieces; what have you gained? The same thing I have, absolutely nothing. :angryfire
It is hideous to be taken advantage of...I understand you anger well at that institution, because it has not only taken your money, you have invested time and effort which as valuable as cash. This is the web site of the Better Business Bureau http://www.bbb.org/online/. In this site there is a link that connects you to the BBB office of the state where TCN is based on. The way you describe your situation, you deserve to get fair hearing for your problem. Best, feliz3
I feel your pain.I am facing the same problem with Tcn.my intention was to get admitted to ISU.I sent the money to ISU for admission and never got letter from them on what my next step was.I called them to find out what was going on,they told that they needed my transcripts,keep in mind that TCN rep told me not worry about my transcripts,because I signed a release form and they will handle the transcripts issues.After six months I receive my transcipts evaluation from TCN telling that I have to take three more classes. I told them that I was disappointed and want to cancel my contract.they told me that I could not.keep in mind that I am an RN and Iam try ing to get my BSN. I decided to go with local University, I am so happy to report that I got admitted to the UNiversity and I have to complete only 24 credits and it is less expensive than TCN. advice for anyone up there ,attend you local college or University,as for my money :nurse:I do not know what to do,they take money from my checking account electronicaly every month.
I do not have a dog in this hunt, however, to me it seems that a class action suit against Georgia is needed. If these nurses pass the same boards as other schools, who are they to determine who is unsafe.
There is more to licensure than just passing the NCLEX. In order to be ruled eligible by the state BON to write the NCLEX, you must pass the background criminal check and, in all 50 states, have graduated from a school of nursing approved by the BON. (And different states have additional, specific requirements to be eligible for licensure.) The issue here (and in a growing number of other states) is that the GA BON has decided that the Excelsior program does not meet the standards set by the BON, and met by all the "traditional" schools of nursing in GA, specifically, supervised clinical hours in the program, for the program to be approved by the BON and for its graduates to be eligible to write the NCLEX.
I don't have a dog in this hunt, either, but I see this (and the conflicts in other states) as a basic question of fairness -- if every school of nursing in the state is required to include XXX number of supervised clinical hours in its program in order for its students to be eligible to write the NCLEX, why should a special exception be made for EC? If it's okay for EC to not have clinical, why don't we drop the clinical and classroom hours requirement for all nursing schools, and just let all nursing students seek out the information on their own? Why not go back to "on the job" training, and let people challenge the NCLEX when they feel like it? Why not do away with licensure (there are folks who have suggested this in recent years ...)?
I'm not trying to be argumentative, or critical of anyone here, but I honestly don't understand why EC and its proponents feel that they shouldn't have to meet the requirements that BONs set for all other nursing programs. Sorry for going off-topic -- I'll shut up now. :)
It may sound expensive with the legal stuff, but you might be able to get at least a free one time legal consult. There must be something in the contract that would allow you to get back all your money. See if you can find a lawyer that will accept consignment, or you can research the legal aspect yourself and take them to court...at least you will qualify for the small claims court. I tell you, if this is bothering you now it will bother you more in the next few years .... if you do not do anything about this. give it your best and my prayers and oompah with you on this! Do not let this unprincipled, unsympathetic people get to you. fight them.
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o yes i have spent money on excelsior, not 4k, as of yet, but closest to it. and i to live here in georgia, so i am affect by the recent bs with the ga bon. but i will not not have absolutely nothing, i will get my rn, and ga darn sure will endorse me, one way or the other( legal fight if necessary)!!!!!!! i will not sit back in defeat quietly, and cry. o lol i got off the subject somewhat.
ok, about tnc, if they are misrepresenting themselves to people, and, the contract that people are signing, states " degrees are granted from excelsior via tnc" and or " tnc grantees you will be license in ga through endorsement" then i stand corrected:bowingpur. but if if it doesn't all should have the facts before they sign anything that's binding. that's for anything you do in life, have the facts, or you will end up taken as a fool:(.