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This is something nurses need to discuss , the number of nurses who get board complaints and have no idea how to handle them . Or have preconceived ideas on how to proceed. And most complaints have nothing to do with nursing .

canoehead, BSN, RN

Specializes in ER. Has 30 years experience.

I have, twice. I replied to the complaint explaining why I did what my employer objected to, and the board replied stating "We consider the matter closed." It was terrifying but actually reassuring that my thinking and priorities coincided with theirs.

I've moved since then and have heard that the new board likes wielding their power...assigning education when the nurse didn't actually do anything wrong. I think it depends on where you are.

WOW! this is quite shocking , this is definitely not how it works in all states . I have heard too many times AZ is one of the worst and now I believe it. No way would a nurse write in and it be dismissed. In Az they do not assign education , rarely . But it does no good they still revoke. In many cases , the nurses didn't actually do anything wrong, and they get psychological evaluated, probation, and revocation. No one will hire you on probation so you can't full fill that, so they revoke. many cases that do not rise to a "case" .

Check out a site a RN put up , AZ State Board of Nursing Watchdogs.

KatieMI, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, LTACH, Internal Medicine. Has 8 years experience.

I had it once. An openly xenophobic patient demanded to know why it was me taking care of him and not "some real American nurse". The manager, who was openly rasist and inti-immigrant, terminated me for nothing short time after and wrote the report about "deep concern about safety".

I do not know if I'd come out of this mess alive and with license if I wouldn't tell people who knew better and had access to legal consult experienced in working with professional regulatory agencies. I had to write down the statement describing exactly what happened during that particular episode. The case was closed, the manager was called to Boards instead. She had to speed up her retirement a bit and entered it with tarniched license.

It pains me to see how fantastically ignorant many nurses are in legal matters and how their ignorancy and fears of Boards are exploited. When I worked agency, I had several episodes when I refused to take assignments due to unsafe conditions and/or making me working and acting outside of my scope of practice and job description. Every single time I was threatened with "reporting to Boards" and every single time I had to tell directly into those faces that they can report whoever to whatever and get nowhere because "abandonment" starts once assignment is taken and then refused but not before assignment is accepted, and the fact of clocking-in doesn't mean that the nurse accepts everything that follows.

There are quite a few books explaining legal things in a nutshell for practicing nurses but they retire quickly, not state-specific and, at most, still written by that teeth-gringing "legal English" which can substitute for Ambien for most people. I wonder if schools should adopt a mandatory course of "Legal aspects in Nursing" instead of some "nursing theory" fluff.

Edited by KatieMI

Obviously a course in the legalities of nursing and nursing reality would be more beneficial than nursing fluff. Those topics could be covered in the ‘leadership’ class at the end of the program, but usually are not. The idea makes a ton of sense, so the academics dismiss it.

Hey I love it, back fired on the nurse mgr ! This would not happen in AZ , they take care of nurse mgr's , DON, Nursing instructors, and others who are similar situations, (church they attend) and yes they are racist . Just recently put a blk woman on the board a first , because they were accused, and want to show they are not (haha). AZBON is one of the worst. Nurses do know about legal but then they are nurses BUT it is the board atty's who want them to sign for something they did not do, so they keep their license and can pay them ! Thank you for sharing . And glad things turned out alright.

23 hours ago, kuippo said:

WOW!! this is quite shocking , this is definitely not how it works in all states . I have heard too many times AZ is one of the worst and now I believe it. No way would a nurse write in and it be dismissed. In Az they do not assign education , rarely . But it does no good they still revoke. In many cases , the nurses didn't actually do anything wrong, and they get psychological evaluated, probation, and revocation. No one will hire you on probation so you can't full fill that, so they revoke. many cases that do not rise to a "case" .

Check out a site a RN put up , AZ State Board of Nursing Watchdogs.

I’ve been a nurse in AZ for over 20 years and I don’t know of anyone that has had a complaint filed against them. I’ve heard this before from nurses on social media but I’d have to understand the circumstances, complaint, etc. before I would say that it was the BON’s being overzealous.

Many long term nurses have no idea a board complaint is on a co worker . One of my bff traveling , got turned in. She ended up with DOC. Never told me . Like yourself , I knew of no one . Some nurses , even in AZ walk away with a fair deal, but again you have to look at circumstances. (did they dismiss due to protecting the hospital ? or LOC (which no one see's ! ) to protect a hospital ? ) I know of way too many after studying this area , met them in various ways , connected . And believe me most cases , they do not and did not deserve any of it. Some were on staff 1 hospital 30 years , when weeded out for being top wage earner. You can read a lot of cases by the web page, and yes I never believed anyone could be unduly charged with a case , and lose their license over nothing , it happens . It is complicated.

Many board complaints , on nurses like yourself , after 20 years you think that is to your advantage ? A bd member will tell you , "it just means you haven't learned anything in 20 years ". And most cases have nothing to do with nursing . Before you stick up for a corrupt board , educate yourself not be reading what the BON puts out there but the other side of the story they do not put in their 'judges opinions' . (the bd writes what the alj signs ) and pick short statements out of context. ) A MSN nurse lost her license for educating a patient , Dr was upset . BON protects hospitals.

The BON is to protect the public. I didn’t say anything different. I’m not here to argue. I’m just telling you my experience.

That is their mandate, but that is not what is happening, and if anyone thinks so, prove it. They are protecting others similarly situated.

I am not here to argue either, but feel the need to educate others . I always wonder why people come on and make a post look like there is nothing to it 'because I have been a nurse in az 20 yrs and do not know of a board complaint " . It 's obviously not about YOU. (yet) . So anyone who hasn't had a BON complaint should post that ? This is not topic here , Start a thread, those of us who haven't had a board complaint . There are 70k rns and 100k NP, RN, Midwives etc. a stigma is on someone who has a board complaint, and most people do not say anything to others. Also the board threatens anyone to talk about their complaint or what the board told them . every threat by the board , they rely on "unprofessional conduct " BS! . Mgr's , nursing profs, azna officers, members of the board have had board complaints and you will never hear about that either . BTW license protection is available, older you get , bigger target !

I’m not sure why you are so triggered. I don’t have to prove anything. I was giving you my experience. You have a good day.

First of all I am not "triggered" . Don't use psych terms on me, this is very typical of the corrupt az board of nursing. You responded to a post and you DO NOT HAVE an experience.

You are undermining , a legitimate concern , and should be a concern to all nurses working in AZ, nursing students , CNA's etc.

Not sure why you even responded . Except to stick up for something you have no idea about.

”””Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are. ~ Ben Franklin”””

You’re posting on a public nursing forum so anyone can post a differing opinion. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to insult the person. You can always just ignore a post too. I was sharing my experiences of having been a nurse for 35 years, 20 of which have been here in AZ. Everyone has different experiences and that’s how these posts work. Maybe find all like minded people if you want everyone to agree with you. And I actually didn’t even disagree with you but I was sharing my experience. And that’s what adds value to a conversation.

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Bluebird777

Specializes in Bedside nursing. Has 26 years experience.

Yes, I am currently dealing with a BON complaint. It is without basis, and was filed by one of my coworkers anonymously. Every time I think things are all discussed, and the stress might die down, another thing comes up. Someone (or more than one) at my workplace hates me enough to want to destroy my career and my reputation, and I have no idea why. It is really difficult to continue to show up for my shifts and pretend like everything is fine. I can't discuss any of it with anyone at work, so I have no cohort support. It is awkward to know that all the higher ups see my name in this context. I can't describe very well how horrible this experience is.

On 6/30/2020 at 7:34 AM, kuippo said:

Many board complaints , on nurses like yourself , after 20 years you think that is to your advantage ? A bd member will tell you , "it just means you haven't learned anything in 20 years ". And most cases have nothing to do with nursing . Before you stick up for a corrupt board , educate yourself not be reading what the BON puts out there but the other side of the story they do not put in their 'judges opinions' . (the bd writes what the alj signs ) and pick short statements out of context. ) A MSN nurse lost her license for educating a patient , Dr was upset . BON protects hospitals.

First, this post was incredibly rude. And I’m not sticking up for anyone. But if someone has a different viewpoint (which I actually didn’t), I’m sticking up for a corrupt BON? Frivolous complaints to the BON are terrible and I would hope that would never happen but I’m sure that it does. As for the MSN that lost her license? There is way more to this story and from what I’ve read, she deserved to lose it. That’s why it’s good to understand there may be more to the story than just the nurse’s and again, it is the BON’s duty to protect the public. Whatever your complaint was, I hope that it gets resolved. And in the future, I hope if someone adds a comment to your post on a public forum that you will be polite and think that respectful discussion is a good thing.

Littleblackdog, ADN, BSN, RN

Has 37 years experience.

On 6/28/2020 at 10:46 PM, kuippo said:

WOW!! this is quite shocking , this is definitely not how it works in all states . I have heard too many times AZ is one of the worst and now I believe it. No way would a nurse write in and it be dismissed. In Az they do not assign education , rarely . But it does no good they still revoke. In many cases , the nurses didn't actually do anything wrong, and they get psychological evaluated, probation, and revocation. No one will hire you on probation so you can't full fill that, so they revoke. many cases that do not rise to a "case" .

Check out a site a RN put up , AZ State Board of Nursing Watchdogs.

I live in TN and luckily have not had a board issue but am certainly aware of actions by boards in various states as reported by nurses I know or know of...distressing news about AZ! To think that regardless of a nurse's action, they get a psych eval, probation, revocation....like getting stopped by the police for a traffic violation: the police are always "right", you are always wrong.