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First of all I am not "triggered" . Don't use psych terms on me, this is very typical of the corrupt az board of nursing. You responded to a post and you DO NOT HAVE an experience.

You are undermining , a legitimate concern , and should be a concern to all nurses working in AZ, nursing students , CNA's etc.

Not sure why you even responded . Except to stick up for something you have no idea about.

”””Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are. ~ Ben Franklin”””

You’re posting on a public nursing forum so anyone can post a differing opinion. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to insult the person. You can always just ignore a post too. I was sharing my experiences of having been a nurse for 35 years, 20 of which have been here in AZ. Everyone has different experiences and that’s how these posts work. Maybe find all like minded people if you want everyone to agree with you. And I actually didn’t even disagree with you but I was sharing my experience. And that’s what adds value to a conversation.

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Bluebird777

Specializes in Bedside nursing. Has 26 years experience.

Yes, I am currently dealing with a BON complaint. It is without basis, and was filed by one of my coworkers anonymously. Every time I think things are all discussed, and the stress might die down, another thing comes up. Someone (or more than one) at my workplace hates me enough to want to destroy my career and my reputation, and I have no idea why. It is really difficult to continue to show up for my shifts and pretend like everything is fine. I can't discuss any of it with anyone at work, so I have no cohort support. It is awkward to know that all the higher ups see my name in this context. I can't describe very well how horrible this experience is.

On 6/30/2020 at 7:34 AM, kuippo said:

Many board complaints , on nurses like yourself , after 20 years you think that is to your advantage ? A bd member will tell you , "it just means you haven't learned anything in 20 years ". And most cases have nothing to do with nursing . Before you stick up for a corrupt board , educate yourself not be reading what the BON puts out there but the other side of the story they do not put in their 'judges opinions' . (the bd writes what the alj signs ) and pick short statements out of context. ) A MSN nurse lost her license for educating a patient , Dr was upset . BON protects hospitals.

First, this post was incredibly rude. And I’m not sticking up for anyone. But if someone has a different viewpoint (which I actually didn’t), I’m sticking up for a corrupt BON? Frivolous complaints to the BON are terrible and I would hope that would never happen but I’m sure that it does. As for the MSN that lost her license? There is way more to this story and from what I’ve read, she deserved to lose it. That’s why it’s good to understand there may be more to the story than just the nurse’s and again, it is the BON’s duty to protect the public. Whatever your complaint was, I hope that it gets resolved. And in the future, I hope if someone adds a comment to your post on a public forum that you will be polite and think that respectful discussion is a good thing.

Littleblackdog, ADN, BSN, RN

Has 37 years experience.

On 6/28/2020 at 10:46 PM, kuippo said:

WOW!! this is quite shocking , this is definitely not how it works in all states . I have heard too many times AZ is one of the worst and now I believe it. No way would a nurse write in and it be dismissed. In Az they do not assign education , rarely . But it does no good they still revoke. In many cases , the nurses didn't actually do anything wrong, and they get psychological evaluated, probation, and revocation. No one will hire you on probation so you can't full fill that, so they revoke. many cases that do not rise to a "case" .

Check out a site a RN put up , AZ State Board of Nursing Watchdogs.

I live in TN and luckily have not had a board issue but am certainly aware of actions by boards in various states as reported by nurses I know or know of...distressing news about AZ! To think that regardless of a nurse's action, they get a psych eval, probation, revocation....like getting stopped by the police for a traffic violation: the police are always "right", you are always wrong.

2 hours ago, Bluebird777 said:

Yes, I am currently dealing with a BON complaint. It is without basis, and was filed by one of my coworkers anonymously. Every time I think things are all discussed, and the stress might die down, another thing comes up. Someone (or more than one) at my workplace hates me enough to want to destroy my career and my reputation, and I have no idea why. It is really difficult to continue to show up for my shifts and pretend like everything is fine. I can't discuss any of it with anyone at work, so I have no cohort support. It is awkward to know that all the higher ups see my name in this context. I can't describe very well how horrible this experience is.

Same happened to me. Come to find out, a CNA who had been there for a long time was taking money from the patients family members and was stealing supplies to sell as a side hustle on Ebay. She put a family member up to call and complain after her spouse passed away as retaliation for me reporting and stopping her theft. I was the charge nurse that night and I'm the one who called and initiated the code but we couldn't revive the patient. I'm also the one who called her to notify her.

I received a letter from the board telling me about it AFTER the board had already called me and told me there was an anonymous complaint filed by a family member. I was livid! I told the board to excuse my language but there may be some cussing and I went off.

Unbeknownst to me, the board had already investigated and sent the complaint back to the facility to investigate all the other people on the unit during the code about a week before calling me. They also told them, to report back on each person and if they didn't do so in a certain amount of time, they'd send someone in to investigate the facility.

My notes helped me and most of the problems the wife complained about happened when I was off! The board stated I was literally the ONLY person who had done the right things AND documented over the whole past two weeks on the patient's change in status. Even the providers hadn't documented but they followed my notes and saw the orders match up with my notes. The other nurses hadn't even been medicating the patient!

The next few days after I received the first letter, I received a second letter telling me I was cleared. The CNA has since abused several patients and tons of other things that were inappropriate and lost her CNA license but still works at the facility in another position. Most of her clique involved and administration that protected her are no longer there. The new admin can't terminate her because they never wrote her up so there was no paper trail. They were about to make me lose my license but she's sent to another position? I'm no longer there because I moved to another state but that's just trifling! Til this day I trust no facility. I've experienced it and I've seen other people suffer hateful lies and actions from administrations and/or coworkers.

Littleblackdog, ADN, BSN, RN

Has 37 years experience.

2 hours ago, Bluebird777 said:

Yes, I am currently dealing with a BON complaint. It is without basis, and was filed by one of my coworkers anonymously. Every time I think things are all discussed, and the stress might die down, another thing comes up. Someone (or more than one) at my workplace hates me enough to want to destroy my career and my reputation, and I have no idea why. It is really difficult to continue to show up for my shifts and pretend like everything is fine. I can't discuss any of it with anyone at work, so I have no cohort support. It is awkward to know that all the higher ups see my name in this context. I can't describe very well how horrible this experience is.

Sounds pretty unbearable to me. Any chance of your getting another job somewhere else despite the BON complaint? I hate that we can be reported anonymously so easily. Years ago, I was called into the office of the DON at a moderate sized hospital that is part of a huge hospital chain. Someone had called our company's anonymous ethics line to report I had thrown a bowl of soup at a wall in the breakroom one day in a temper tantrum while I was in charge. It was so ludicrous I could not believe what I was hearing. Even the DON (and my manager) said they could not imagine my doing that, but I cried so much I could hardly breathe, it was just crazy, hearing that lie, and thinking that I could possibly be in trouble just because someone had made something up for whatever reason. I urged them to ask all the staff members about this, they did, and everyone said they had never seen me do anything remotely like this. I asked if they could tell me who had made the complaint and they told me they could not...and then I recalled that we had a kind of new employee, a nursing student working as a tech. About two weeks before this incident, I came across her sitting in a cubbyhole on the phone and later asked her if she would please make rounds even if the call lights weren't going off,because patients might need something and not be able to ask or might be in mess and need cleaning up. I did not interrupt her phone call (we all have to make calls now and then) or anything like that and was, probably, if anything, too obliging when I was in charge. When I asked her to make rounds, the look she gave me was so weird....very cold and she just stared and didn't answer. So I kind of suspected she didn't like having me ask her to do her job, and I told the DON and my manager this....the reply was, "Well, we can't confirm whether or not this person made the complaint, but let us say that we tend not to believe that you did this....and that if you asked someone to make rounds, you were doing the right thing.." I felt fortunate that they believed me. Two weeks later, the nursing student resigned. Two years later, I resigned and went to a closer hospital. After I left, my manager told me that "We never thought for a minute that you threw a bowl of soup at a wall. And the person that said you did isn't here any longer." Frightening how this can happen.

just read another nurse had a board complaint , anonymous, this should never be , criminals have more rights than nurses. You have a right to face your accuser. How can you defend yourself. ? It really stinks when a nurse gets caught up in this !

what I have found in AZ , is that when you have a board complaint , the board will call every place you work or have slipped up in telling them where you are planning on working , they will call them and tell them and dramatize the complaint. In one case a NP was applying to work at a big hospital firm, and told the BON, the atty contacted that place and told them " she has a board complaint , and no not at your place of employment , well at least not yet , " most places will say lets wait and see what happens , and then you are out of work a long time, cannot pay an atty and the BON uses taxpayers money to go after you . they will not stop at anyone who does not cow down and signs their nonsense. ! It happens a lot. On the other hand many nurses have worked with 'common sennse" board that are human, in their approach, and realize that there is nothing to it. and drop that matter like it should be dropped !

So sad that nurses are the ones that are here to kick someone where they are down, "she deserved to lose her license " . How rude and insensitive, but that is her opinion , and she has a right to air this. This happens with criminals too people post things , like "I hope he gets life" Wait a minute , is this an assumption of guilt ,by reading , a reporters biased comments , sometimes only reading the headlines. Why should I waste me time , trying to educate those who have been railroaded those who actually have dealt with an actual board complaint ? I give my time freely to try to help you in what I have learned. It is the worst time of your life, to be accused , and there is no nursing organization that is on the nurses side. and no unions at least not in arizona.

As far as getting another job, well it pretty much destroys any chance of that . once you are reported to the data bank , you cannot work anywhere medicare money is involved. not even in the kitchen.