Another reason unions suck!

[Ruger8mm]

Trying to get a vacation as a new RN under a union regime is challenging at best. It's all seniority based. So the senior RNs can basically come and go as they choose. But that means the rest of us cannot be off (even though we don't cover each other or know each other's job). Also the silly union made a rule that managers cannot approve vacations to far out. So if someone knows they want a certain week 2 years from now, they cannot secure it and start booking flights or whatever. It's irritating at best.

[psychrn07]

Then maybe you should have gone to work at a non-Union place of employment. Ever thought about that?

[Farawyn]

Then maybe you should have gone to work at a non-Union place of employment. Ever thought about that?

His relatives are the CEOs at the hospital in which he works.

[Ranax]

Your complaint is based on your employer's vacation policy. It is not a union specific policy.

Every employer will have some sort of vacation policy, whether it is under City, County, State or local direction will drive it's parameters. Unions negotiate employee rights within these greater controlling entities. Senority is usually a factor, with or without a union.

One such driving force is how the facility is funded. If it is based on tax roles, it will probably fall under the fiscal calendar year, July 1 - June 30 following year, and this budget cycle limits how far in advance one can plan employee vacations. Others use the calendar year for planning vacations, regardless of unionization.

My advice to you...be humble, earn your time, and schedule your vacation whenever you want in the far future, knowing you will be responsible for making alternate coverage plans (shift trades, etc.) if you can not secure the time through vacation. Unions are your friend, don't unfriend them.

[she244]

I do not work in a Union environment but it is the same way. We have to submit request and we are denied our request at times. Sometimes they will let us work it out just so long as coverage is available. When I worked in the ER. We had to write down all the Holidays in the year. They separated the year in half and you could pick a Holiday from each half. So if I had Thanksgiving off, I had to work Christmas. As far as taking a week off, we put in as early in advance as we could.

[Ruger8mm]

His relatives are the CEOs at the hospital in which he works.

Now now. You are assuming.

[Ruger8mm]

Your complaint is based on your employer's vacation policy. It is not a union specific policy.

Every employer will have some sort of vacation policy, whether it is under City, County, State or local direction will drive it's parameters. Unions negotiate employee rights within these greater controlling entities. Senority is usually a factor, with or without a union.

One such driving force is how the facility is funded. If it is based on tax roles, it will probably fall under the fiscal calendar year, July 1 - June 30 following year, and this budget cycle limits how far in advance one can plan employee vacations. Others use the calendar year for planning vacations, regardless of unionization.

My advice to you...be humble, earn your time, and schedule your vacation whenever you want in the far future, knowing you will be responsible for making alternate coverage plans (shift trades, etc.) if you can not secure the time through vacation. Unions are your friend, don't unfriend them.

Actually it is stated specifically in the union contract.

[Farawyn]

Now now. You are assuming.

Didn't you say that?

And if not, then why are you working at a union hospital?

[Ruger8mm]

Didn't you say that?

And if not, then why are you working at a union hospital?

I said the family is in higher healthcare management including hospital CEO. Doesn't mean I work at that facility.

[Farawyn]

I said the family is in higher healthcare management including hospital CEO. Doesn't mean I work at that facility.

Oh well. You should. I'm sure you'll get your vacation then.

[Foley6]

I am glad that I do not work at a union job. I am very liberal, but I am not pro union. In most peoples eyes, that does not make sense. I think that they had there place in history, but not sure if they are relevent today. I hear very little positive comments from the nurses that I know who work a union job. They do seem to pay more, but is it worth all of the hassle. I applied for a job that was union, and I was told on the interview that during the probationary period, the other workers would make it very hard on me to be sure that I was a good worker. Once hired, it was nearly impossible to be fired. this sounds terrible to me. So, you would be stuck working with the same people, and if they were bad workers, you knew they would not be fired. Luckily, I did not take the job. My current boss used to work at a union job in Occ health. She states that she felt powerless because every nursing decision that she made had to go througn the union (non-nurses).

[PMFB-RN, RN]

I am glad that I do not work at a union job. I am very liberal, but I am not pro union. In most peoples eyes, that does not make sense. I think that they had there place in history, but not sure if they are relevent today. I hear very little positive comments from the nurses that I know who work a union job. They do seem to pay more, but is it worth all of the hassle. I applied for a job that was union, and I was told on the interview that during the probationary period, the other workers would make it very hard on me to be sure that I was a good worker. Once hired, it was nearly impossible to be fired. this sounds terrible to me. So, you would be stuck working with the same people, and if they were bad workers, you knew they would not be fired. Luckily, I did not take the job. My current boss used to work at a union job in Occ health. She states that she felt powerless because every nursing decision that she made had to go througn the union (non-nurses).

It's nothing like that at all in our union hospital. Our union doesn't support dirt bags who don't do their job. New people are supported and encouraged, we are not hard on them.

It's certainly not nearly impossible to get fired. People who do bad things or don't do their jobs get fired.

[rgs_nrs]

I so agree with you there! Great point, btw! LOL