Another reason unions suck!

[Ruger8mm]

Trying to get a vacation as a new RN under a union regime is challenging at best. It's all seniority based. So the senior RNs can basically come and go as they choose. But that means the rest of us cannot be off (even though we don't cover each other or know each other's job). Also the silly union made a rule that managers cannot approve vacations to far out. So if someone knows they want a certain week 2 years from now, they cannot secure it and start booking flights or whatever. It's irritating at best.

[Ruger8mm]

I've never had a job that is so micromanaged as nursing operations by the unions.

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

I'm not union, and it's the same where I am. Limit is no more than 1 year prior. Summer vacation is selected by seniority. The perfect job doesn't exist. You'll have to either take what you've got now or look elsewhere if this is such an issue to you.

[Ruger8mm]

I'm not union, and it's the same where I am. Limit is no more than 1 year prior. Summer vacation is selected by seniority. The perfect job doesn't exist. You'll have to either take what you've got now or look elsewhere if this is such an issue to you.

It should be you are only allowed to ask for one week during the first vacation application period. Based on seniority. Then after that it is first come first serve. I've always worked in that environment.

That and you wipe the union filth off yourself up here. It's everywhere.

[ProgressiveActivist, BSN, RN]

That union might come in handy if you ever find yourself in disciplinary action for carrying all of those anti- personnel devices.

[Emergent, RN]

Union filth? Them's fighting words!

You might try discussing things in a less inflammatory manner. Just a suggestion.

[Ruger8mm]

Union filth? Them's fighting words!

You might try discussing things in a less inflammatory manner. Just a suggestion.

I hate, despise and detest unions. And I make no bones about it.

[Emergent, RN]

I hate, despise and detest unions. And I make no bones about it.

Obviously. But why no try to not come off as an extremist? Make a rational sounding argument, instead of an anecdotal rant.

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

I hate, despise and detest unions. And I make no bones about it.

Then why on earth would you work in a unionized facility? If you disagree with unions, it makes no sense to even apply for a job there.

[ThePrincessBride, MSN, RN, NP]

I used to not like unions, but I must admit that there is some merit to them. Union hospitals typically have better working conditions and they keep management in check. They are there to protect the nurses.

At the same time, however, it can also protect and reward the laziest of staff. It is highly political, and seniority is king. I am not a fan of seniority for vacation or holidays. I think vacations and holidays should be rotated with staff in different groups (A, B, C, etc). Those groups should be able to rotate each year and have a turn on first dibs in vacation. That way, the junior staff aren't constantly getting screwed every single year for many years.

[Ruger8mm]

Then why on earth would you work in a unionized facility? If you disagree with unions, it makes no sense to even apply for a job there.

no such thing as non-union facilities up here.

[Emergent, RN]

I'm not a huge lover of unions, butI work in two unionized hospital, and both handle vacations fairly.

I previously worked in a unionized hospital where the union's sole purpose seemed to be to unfairly favor senior staff, so I totally understand these frustrations.

All 3 represented by the same union. It depends on the culture of each facility, not necessarily the union per se.