Another reason unions suck!

[Ruger8mm]

Trying to get a vacation as a new RN under a union regime is challenging at best. It's all seniority based. So the senior RNs can basically come and go as they choose. But that means the rest of us cannot be off (even though we don't cover each other or know each other's job). Also the silly union made a rule that managers cannot approve vacations to far out. So if someone knows they want a certain week 2 years from now, they cannot secure it and start booking flights or whatever. It's irritating at best.

[PMFB-RN, RN]

PMFB-RN quoted ruger8mm, then added a political attack. IMHO it was rather misplaced in this discussion.

Pointing out something that is true is not an attack.

[PMFB-RN, RN]

Quote from Ruger8mm

Hold on, I've got to go puke. Redistribution of wealth? PLEASE! Go get it yourself instead of looking for a handout.

Redistribution of wealth is a very old tradition in the USA and strong supported by Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives and liberals. But none more than the neo-cons like The second president Bush. You can't have voted for Bush in 2004 AND claim you are opposed to wealth redistribution, unless you just plead total ignorance to both history and current events.

[Ruger8mm]

I would be willing to work with others and negotiate with others. One of the major hurdles I see in my facility is the most senior nurse DOES NOT care what others wishes are and will take whatever days she wants. She takes every single day before and after a holiday. She is selfish, which I find amusing because she runs around the facility bible thumping.

Plus she is the ONLY RN that wants the hour lunch while the rest of us want 30 minutes. Yet somehow the contract got stuck with a 60 minute lunch.

[Ruger8mm]

I still say, good luck with that and keep your resume up to date, because you're a lot more likely to have to "strike" than not. Very few nurses are uniquely skilled enough to be irreplaceable or even nearly so. It's more likely to be cheaper to hand you your hat and hire a new grad.

I like to think I'd cross the line and go punch in.

[Farawyn]

I like to think I'd cross the line and go punch in.

Well, yea, Daddy would not be pleased if you did not.

[Farawyn]

I would be willing to work with others and negotiate with others. One of the major hurdles I see in my facility is the most senior nurse DOES NOT care what others wishes are and will take whatever days she wants. She takes every single day before and after a holiday. She is selfish, which I find amusing because she runs around the facility bible thumping.

Plus she is the ONLY RN that wants the hour lunch while the rest of us want 30 minutes. Yet somehow the contract got stuck with a 60 minute lunch.

Wait, you are complaining about a 30 minute lunch? Why?

Can you break it up into a 30 and two 15?

[heron, ASN, RN]

I would be willing to work with others and negotiate with others. One of the major hurdles I see in my facility is the most senior nurse DOES NOT care what others wishes are and will take whatever days she wants. She takes every single day before and after a holiday. She is selfish, which I find amusing because she runs around the facility bible thumping.

Plus she is the ONLY RN that wants the hour lunch while the rest of us want 30 minutes. Yet somehow the contract got stuck with a 60 minute lunch.

Don't let it come as a shock to you, but bible-thumping, hypocrisy and selfishness are not caused by or exclusive to unions.

[Ruger8mm]

An hour is a complete waste of time. I do not want to break it up. I want to go home a half hour earlier. I don't go to work because I like to. I go to work because I like to have money to play with.

I mean honestly, if I have to take an hour. I might as well run errands or something. Plus we get the two 15 min paid breaks. When does anybody work?

[Jensmom7, BSN, RN]

My hospital isn't union but we get all those perks so....

As someone else mentioned, maybe you should do some reading in American history?

You have those perks, even in a non-Union setting, BECAUSE people were willing to fight and die for them many years ago.

Several governors are now trying to take basic rights away. "Right to work" has nothing to do with the workers, and everything to do with employers returning to the sweatshop days of yore, while keeping everything for themselves.

Vacation is the least of our worries.

[ProgressiveActivist, BSN, RN]

I like to think I'd cross the line and go punch in.

Then the honorable thing to do when you turn 63 is to live on your investments and never officially retire in order to receive the defined benefit pension.

[Ruger8mm]

Then the honorable thing to do when you turn 63 is to live on your investments and never officially retire in order to receive the defined benefit pension.

Why do you assume we get a pension?

[Ruger8mm]

That is one of the few things that union did that I agree with. They got rid of the pension and the employer contributes a flat 4.5% of my salary into my 401(k). So I can manage it as I see fit.