I am 17 and starting my nursing prequisites this summer for my ADN program. I read nad hear alot about BSNs taking over and how hospitals are starting to hire them more....WHETHER THIS IS TRUE OR NOT, I want to get my bachelors degree...but not in Nursing...I understand that ADN gives you all the knowledge you need to start training for bedside nursing and I have no interest in a management position, just travel nursing. I want to go for A bachelors in Biology so that I have have that open door option to go to medical school if I end up wanting to.
I absoluetly love biological science so much and want a bachelors in Anatomy Biology.
If what they say about BSNs is true and that hospitals are starting to only hire nurses with a bachelors degree...does it matter that your bachelors degree is not in nursing?
it's not a matter of who's responsibility it is.....it's a matter of enabling behavior and codependency. Taking care of her Mom and taking on her Mom's responsibilities isn't helping her Mom, or herself.
You may be right but isn't she a fine example of a young lady to even want to try? Nowadays all you here is youth are negative, youth are lazy and so on.. She is going to do what she feels she should. I know I did.. And I have no regrets. Parents were dependent on me, not like in this case but it was expected i would be there for them. they both died last year and I am so happy i was the one who was there for them and I wish they were still here for me to put my life on hold just one more time.
Until you have walked in one's shoes.. you have no idea how they got their blisters.
You may be right but isn't she a fine example of a young lady to even want to try? Nowadays all you here is youth are negative, youth are lazy and so on.. She is going to do what she feels she should. I know I did.. And I have no regrets. Parents were dependent on me, not like in this case but it was expected i would be there for them. they both died last year and I am so happy i was the one who was there for them and I wish they were still here for me to put my life on hold just one more time.
Until you have walked in one's shoes.. you have no idea how they got their blisters.
How do you know that I haven't walked in similar shoes?
I also wouldn't generalize about youth today, that's an unfair stereotype.
Addiction is a different situation than illness....enabling loved ones who are dealing with addiction is not loving behavior, it is the opposite of helping them.
I was not generalizing, I was merely saying some do. I was complimenting the young lady. And even if you have walked in similar shoes as I have that still does not mean we know how she feels.
I was not generalizing, I was merely saying some do. I was complimenting the young lady. And even if you have walked in similar shoes as I have that still does not mean we know how she feels.
Chill.. like I said you may be totally right
Not sure why you feel the need to tell me to "chill" I'm merely replying to your posts
Specializes in Critical Care. CVICU. Adult and Peds PACU..
i've seen a lot of nurses who actually start out with a bachelors in another subject (a lot of bio or psych), decide they want to be a nurse, get their adn, then go back and get their bsn.
You are 17, you are a child. Children shouldn't be concerned with paying the electric bill. It is inappropriate and completely unfair for the adults in your family to expect a child to help meet economic obligations. Apply for every scholarship out there, go away to a 4 year university and find out what's out there in the world that grabs your interest and commands your passion. I'm so sorry you are in this position. good luck to you!
With all due respect, a resounding NO! She does not want coddling. Give her information she needs and do not presume to tell her what she should or should not be concerned with.
If a 17year old(or less than) is able to have sex and give birth, then sorry, you are NO child. Not saying this is related to the OP, but just my way of saying. Give her the tools she needs/requests to start on her path.
I completely agree with every sentence you wrote! Family is the most important thing, and by going to college while living with my family and helping out I'm actually better off finanically anyway. My mom worked her butt off for the last 17 years raising me, my brother, and my sister and then it got even harder when my dad died about 11 years ago when we were all toddlers! It was REAL HARD for her and she had to make a lot of sacrifices and deal with immense gried while still trying to make ends meet to raise us and I am not ashamed of my family at all. My mom has personal issues like everyone else, and yes we fight a lot at times, but when it all comes down to the bottom line...she has shaped me into who I am and I would be nothing without her. Going off to a 4 years university by myself seemed like a dream when I was little up until about 16, but now I am mature enough to realize that my family situation won't allow it and I honestly don't care. I am focused on getting my education and helping my family and that's what I am going to do.
it's not a matter of who's responsibility it is.....it's a matter of enabling behavior and codependency. Taking care of her Mom and taking on her Mom's responsibilities isn't helping her Mom, or herself.
What about the minor siblings? Just forget about them? Or maybe she should call social services on her way out the door and let the system separate them and put them in foster homes that are likely more dysfunctional than where they are now? That might make the OPs journey through college easier, but will she be able to live with herself for the rest of her life if she did that? Judging by her posts, I don't think so. She is a family oriented young lady who is going to do the right thing to help her family (note- not just help out mom).
What about the minor siblings? Just forget about them? Or maybe she should call social services on her way out the door and let the system separate them and put them in foster homes that are likely more dysfunctional than where they are now? That might make the OPs journey through college easier, but will she be able to live with herself for the rest of her life if she did that? Judging by her posts, I don't think so. She is a family oriented young lady who is going to do the right thing to help her family (note- not just help out mom).
I have no idea if they have any other family members (nor do you). If the authorities knew that the responsibilities of the family were solely on a 17 yr old's shoulders though, this conversation may be a moot point. None of us know if there's another solution other than what you mentioned, and no one will if the OP isn't able to get outside help to try and address what is happening.
Having medical problems in a family are a very different dynamic than having addiction problems in a family. I get the sense that they all fall in one bucket for you mjmoon.
I'm not sure why you're so emotionally involved in this discussion though. Why do you feel the need to cast me in an uncaring role here?
The facts as I see them are:
1. This isn't a good situation
2. None of this is the OP's fault or responsibility
3. No matter what the OP's Mom went through in the past few years, the OP has gone through the same, but as a teenager with little adult support.
4. The OP can make choices that will set them up for success in life (and be a role model to their younger siblings) or continue in the familial dysfunction.
5. The OP needs support from folks who have experience in this arena (Al Anon, Alateen a social worker?).
6. Staying in the role of a 17 yr-old is NOT turning her back on her family, it's having a healthy boundary about what is and isn't her responsibility and what is and isn't realistic for her to assume responsibility for.
And finally, telling this young woman that they only way for her to be loyal to her family is to assume all the responsibilities of her mother is patently unfair. She can be loyal to her family and be a 17 year-old. She just needs some outside help to figure out how that works.
I'm done with this conversation, I wish the best to all that are involved.
Isn't university physics trig based? Which is harder? Lol I don't think I could wrap my head around an 8th grade physics class.. Let alone a college one! Lol
When I was in college you had the choice of general physics or university physics. The general was algebra-based and the university was calc I-based. As a premed, bio major, or agsci major you had options. I think the chem majors had to take university, and obviously the physics majors had to.
good luck to you!
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You may be right but isn't she a fine example of a young lady to even want to try? Nowadays all you here is youth are negative, youth are lazy and so on.. She is going to do what she feels she should. I know I did.. And I have no regrets. Parents were dependent on me, not like in this case but it was expected i would be there for them. they both died last year and I am so happy i was the one who was there for them and I wish they were still here for me to put my life on hold just one more time.
Until you have walked in one's shoes.. you have no idea how they got their blisters.