Allow me to vent please

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I've been a loyal staff member of the hospital I work for now for 24 years. They've been good to me and the manager I currently have is the one that hired me. I've moved around the hospital some and have good experience and like my coworkers.

Like other places we have high turnover and being Florida out winter season tends to be busier. A local hospital chain pays very well and we lose a lot of younger people to them after they get their experience here. We recently lost yet another coworker and we're constantly short staffed.

To deal with this they are hiring "seasonal pool" which is a three-month contract at about $15 more an hour than the average staff makes. They've started a float pool at $10 an hour differential higher than the rest of us. They also use travel nurses through different agencies at high cost and give them housing.

Meanwhile those of us who are staff just got our evaluations and were told "we're under consideration for raises, but not sure it can be budgeted".

When they get their heads out of the sand they whine "why can't we keep any staff?? We need to have a committee look at this. Let's give them some cookies."

I promised my boss I'd stick with her until she retires in a year and a half and then perhaps I can get a nice well paying job. Too bad it probably can't be at my place of employment because rather than reward us they are paying new people so much money they can't fit us in their budget.

Thanks for listening.

Specializes in Psychiatry, Community, Nurse Manager, hospice.
However, my beef is that if they can afford all this seasonal and pool high salaries why can't they invest in the rest of us?

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I agree with you. Have you ever communicated this to the people who can fix it?

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Not necessarily true in my case. I'm pretty much "maxed out" meaning I'm at the top of my salary range and newer staff make much less. If I job hop at this point it's not likely I'll start out at the top of the range for this experience, unless I join a pool position or travel nursing, etc. However, my beef is that if they can afford all this seasonal and pool high salaries why can't they invest in the rest of us?

Newer staff that isn't making much and isn't offered a raise will surely jump to another high paying facility and in their cases job hopping pays off, so I get what you're saying.

If your salary is maxed out, can you negotiate some other form of compensation for your loyalty? A spot in the physician parking, a straight day schedule, a decreased weekend or holiday requirement?

I hear and understand you. I've been "maxed out" on salary, too . . . Until I took a weekend position that pays 20% above my hourly rate for working five weekends out of six.

I know its not fair and we all need to vent out our frustrations, especially to a group that understands us.

Only read the rest if you want to look on the bright side...

(You have a job you like. A manager you like and are friends with, they pay you regularly, you get to have stability, staying in the same area, decorating your home, seeing your friends and family.

You have a nice life. If everyone was making the same money would you still be upset?)

Specializes in LTC Management, Community Nursing, HHC.

I know you were just venting, but I thought I'd comment anyway :) They're very lucky to have you, and the others who've been loyal to them, however I think you may be missing one part of the picture and that's the benefits that we full time employees receive but don't think about sometimes. I've heard and read that benefits such as health insurance, a 401K and other benefits full time employees receive often costs a hospital or other healthcare organization at least 40-50% of what they pay in wages. Yet, if other hospitals in the area pay more, then it's still an issue, even with the benefits being taken into account.

As for your promise to your manager that you'll stay with her until she retires .... I don't think that's something that you should be held to. You'll stay if you're paid well and if you're treated well, but apart from that you should do what's best for you, and what makes you happy, as well as what's best for your future.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
I agree with you. Have you ever communicated this to the people who can fix it?

I don't have access to the higher ups as we're part of a huge chain, but I have spoken up about this...but it's like talking to a brink wall.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
I know its not fair and we all need to vent out our frustrations, especially to a group that understands us.

Only read the rest if you want to look on the bright side...

(You have a job you like. A manager you like and are friends with, they pay you regularly, you get to have stability, staying in the same area, decorating your home, seeing your friends and family.

You have a nice life. If everyone was making the same money would you still be upset?)

All those reasons are reasons I stay. Again my beef is that after working hard for the past year my raise might not be in the budget. When clearly other's high salaries are.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
If your salary is maxed out, can you negotiate some other form of compensation for your loyalty? A spot in the physician parking, a straight day schedule, a decreased weekend or holiday requirement?

I hear and understand you. I've been "maxed out" on salary, too . . . Until I took a weekend position that pays 20% above my hourly rate for working five weekends out of six.

We're non-union and part of a huge corporation, there isn't much that's "negotiable".

Specializes in nursing education.

What is stopping you from joining the internal float pool? Especially if you have worked in different areas of the hospital and are flexible, 10$ extra per hour sounds really nice.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
What is stopping you from joining the internal float pool? Especially if you have worked in different areas of the hospital and are flexible, 10$ extra per hour sounds really nice.

I realize I have options, and I might be part of the problem by sitting still and taking it. I made a promise to my manager that I would stick it out with her for the next year and a half. We just lost one of our charge nurses that moved, and another is looking for something else and she needs me. While I don't owe her and the organization anything, she's done a lot for me the 24 years we've been working together. Also there are some units they float to that I just don't like. However, when my boss retires that's something I'll definitely consider. I make decent money, have a house, car and travel, but it would be nice to get an annual raise.

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Aw Tweety - this is horrible.

We as nurses undervalue ourselves when it comes to raises and salary negotiations. Just because we are in a "caring" profession does not mean we don't need fair and equitable raises.

Specializes in geriatrics.

Is it possible for you to join the float pool and then make the 10 dollar/hour differential? That's what I'd be considering, if I were you OP.

I now have read your response to this idea. Why wait? Do what works for your life now.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Is it possible for you to join the float pool and then make the 10 dollar/hour differential? That's what I'd be considering, if I were you OP.

I now have read your response to this idea. Why wait? Do what works for your life now.

If the float pool goes to floors you don't like, that's a reason not to do it. Maybe. How often would the float pool send you to floors you don't like as opposed to those you do?

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