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My local hospital (serves a community of maybe 40,000 people without any other hospitals within 30+ miles) has relied heavily on temporary/travel staffing. Ages ago, I processed leasing applications and leases from the staffing agencies and was privy to the details of these contracts. Ultimately, $55+ dollars per hour (and that's the lowest amount I ever saw) that the nurse worked would be paid by the hospital to the staffing company. The staffing company would pay all utilities, housing, and wages (usually $30-35 per hour) to the nurse. I believe they also received time and a half overtime pay. We had a couple of nurses stay for years, renewing their 13-week contracts over and over again.
A few years ago, before I ever paid much attention to anything dealing with nursing, I overheard that the hospital had just hired a lot of nurses from the middle east. I honestly don't have much more information about that, but I do know it was a sizable group, brought here all at one time.
Is it possible my area genuinely DOES have a shortage of nurses? Or would you guess this could be an issue of new grads still not being hired? We have probably 135+ new grads every year with RNs (roughly half are ADNs, the rest BSNs, but in all fairness, many of the BSNs move back to wherever they came from).
And if there are so many people scrambling for jobs, why are hospitals still relying so heavily on travel staffing? It is so much more expensive, unless I'm missing something.
I don't bring these thoughts to criticize travel nursing. If I didn't have school-aged kids, I'd LOVE to do travel nursing, actually. I guess I don't understand!
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- May 25, '12 by MN-NurseQuote from ixchelThey can use the travelers whenever they need them, and get rid of them when they don't.And if there are so many people scrambling for jobs, why are hospitals still relying so heavily on travel staffing? It is so much more expensive, unless I'm missing something.
The same thing happens in many other industries; companies hire temporary workers until demand is so high they are more profitable hiring regular staff.
- May 25, '12 by ixchelI would agree if the trend weren't to keep them on so long. It was honestly rare that these nurses would stay on for only one or two 13-week contracts. They typically were staying for 3 or longer. Considering they're probably spending at least $30 more per hour on them, it seems crazy. Our community had at any given time, 6-12 apartments with this staffing agency, each with one nurse, sometimes also the nurse's family/significant others. Wouldn't it make more sense to hire a half dozen per diem nurses?
ETA: I should also mention that this wasn't the only staffing agency used regularly with this hospital. There were two agencies that this hospital used. The second agency didn't seem to hold onto nurses as long, though.Last edit by ixchel on May 25, '12 : Reason: added stuff
- May 25, '12 by canesdukegirlI don't understand either. Travel nurses are frighteningly expensive, and your description of what travel nurses are paid is pretty accurate. When I traveled, I was paid $42/hr, had all of my utilities (except for cable/internet) paid for, had a relocation allowance of $1,000, a weekly meal allowance of $400, weekly travel/gas allowance of $200 and a $500 bonus if I renewed my contract. I got a $1500 referral bonus for every nurse that I recruited to the company. It was a very nice set-up!
I suspect that the HR department is not doing a good job recruiting new nurses. It seems like they just keep putting a band-aid on staffing shortages by continuing to employ travel nurses, which would seem like a poor way to do business. I agree with you-why don't they put resources/money into training new grads? Is the pay rate really low at your hospital? When I traveled, the hospital offered me a permanent position...at $21/hr. When I told them that I made more than that as a new grad 13 years ago, the best offer they came back with was $23/hr. Although it was a nice hospital and I loved working there, it was located in a resort area with a very high cost of living. The closest hospital was 75 miles away, so there was no competition; thus the low pay rate. Perhaps this is the same scenario with your hospital.
- May 25, '12 by ixchelI'm not sure what the pay rate is actually, but I do believe it is low. I've just heard their CNAs make as little as $8.50/hr. I've heard numbers as low as $23, but they were just rumored. It seems to me it would make more sense to stop paying traveling companies and hire twice as many new grads at $30/hr and treat them well enough to want to stay.
- May 25, '12 by StephalumpAre they currently relying on travel staff? I saw you mentioned you noticed this years ago...
Years ago, there WAS a shortage. When my mother graduated NS in 2002, she had hospitals lining up, throwing sign on bonuses at her. Travel nursing was booming and lucrative. Hospitals she worked at were wooing nurses from the Philippines to come work their floors.
Around 2009 it all slowed down and has been going downhill ever since. My state has a relatively strong economy/job market, but there's no desperation out there anymore - for new, grads, at least
If your local hospitals are STILL in extreme need, I'm sure there are hundreds of AN new grads who wouldn't mind relocating.
- May 26, '12 by chrissypsychRN09i think it could also have to do with the fact that travel nurses don't go through as intensive orientation as new staff. That might be cost-saving.
- May 26, '12 by MeriwhenQuote from chrissypsychRN09In addition, hospitals don't have to provide benefits (medical, retirement, etc.) or PTO for travelers. That's a very big cost-saver right there.i think it could also have to do with the fact that travel nurses don't go through as intensive orientation as new staff. That might be cost-saving.
- May 27, '12 by ixchelThe 3 of you right above me make very valid points. That could be the case. Although I still think I'd rather train my own employees the way I want things done rather than hope the traveler can do it in a way I find acceptable.
- May 27, '12 by ImKosherTravelers are much cheaper then hiring full time employees with benefits. It may seem $55 an hour is a lot. Think about the full time employee. They have Insurances, annual training, paid time off, and other stuff. It has nothing to do with new grads. Like another person said, it's flexible. Once the traveler's contract is done, they can wish to sign on another term, but the hospital can turn them down. It's a cost saving method.