Hospitals only hiring BSN's?

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when i interviewed for my current position as a student health assistant the clinical manager asked what my goals were. i explained to her that i am pursuing my adn. she told me that hospitals are not hiring nurses with adn's anymore and that you must have a bsn to be considered. is this true, or is it only for certain hospitals? i don't want to try to obtain my adn and not be able to use it.

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How are things going at ? Have you started clinical?

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Actually, MunoRN... I haven't even graduated yet. I will graduate with my BSN in May of 2013 from a University in New England. So, no, the good ol' days are not gone, you just have to look around.

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I haven't noticed a trend toward hiring only the BSN in my area at all. As a matter of fact, our DON has only the ADN. Also, my cousin is an ADN who was just promoted to DON at her facility. What I have seen, however, is hospitals are requiring a certification in the area you wish to be hired in. Hardly any hospitals here hire LPN's, only a few small rural ones do. We have lots of avenues in which to obtain the BSN or higher here, including several large teaching hospitals. Maybe they just don't want to pay that extra 50 cents per hour...

In a rural area it doesn't matter...however go near any major city and the closer you get to the center of town the harder it gets to get a job with just an ADN. I think in rural areas however they could care less.

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Specializes in critical care, Med-Surg.
Cheaper (shorter) training period, we save between $6,000 and $10,000 per new grad by hiring ADN's vs BSN's.

I was ADN, now BSN.

I don't understand your answer. Why would an ADN have a shorter training period than BSN??? I am not a good person to comment on that, as I have climbed the ladder...PCT, LPN, ADN, BSN. I learned every step of the way.

Edit:Nevermind, read your later post.

I COMPLETELY agree with another OP that if the nursing shortage rears it's BEAUTIFUL head again, ADNs (and LPNs) will be hired right and left.

I just interviewed at a Magnet hospital. They are giving strong preference for BSNs.

However, just accepted position on Med-SUrg floor (same system, different institution), and they DO employ LPNs...don't start til Monday, but I think they are utilized as monitor techs/assistants to RN staff.

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In Birmingham and the facility I work for hires the ADN with a stipulation that you have to complete your BSN within three years. The magnent status just means that the facility has RNs working and not LPNs in the accute care facility. With that said it is going to a little hard to just say we are hiring BSN only due to the fact that the ADN sits for the same boards as the BSN. Now, I believe it is a good thing to encourage futhering the education and if you also look at the number of graduating students the competition is high so you personally should also up your game and make yourself more marketable. I recently looked on the AL Board of Nursing and some schools within my state are graduating 100 or better and if you have 20 to 30 schools with nursing programs those are a lot of nurses graduating yearly and a few school admit to the RN program year round so our numbers are up there.

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A facility staffed completely by BSN's is an esoteric goal by hospitals, state regulatory agencies , and nursing schools.

In the next 8 years.. when the current nursing baby boomers that provided care.. NEED care .. along with Obama care...

You will be the golden child. Just my 2 cents... good luck.

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Specializes in Trauma, ER, ICU, CCU, PACU, GI, Cardiology, OR.

up date in our last meeting several of us spoke up and express our concern regarding the issue on hand. having said that, when the opposition kept insisting on not hiring adn's in the future. the rest of us then stated, so our sweet contract with several of our community colleges will end along with their financial support, not to mention the fee involved that we would have to repay those institutions for beaking the contract. in addition, are we going to ask our adn's to get their bsn in order to continue working? if so, then we need to pay for their education! needless to say the entire room went silent. furthermore, when it comes to the difference in education between adn's and bsn the only difference is the length of time, in other words they are both qualify in my book to function as rn's. lastly, in my staff i have a multitude of adn's that are just as competent as any bsn.... just saying.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

up date in our last meeting several of us spoke up and express our concern regarding the issue on hand. having said that, when the opposition kept insisting on not hiring adn's in the future. the rest of us then stated, so our sweet contract with several of our community colleges will end along with their financial support, not to mention the fee involved that we would have to repay those institutions for beaking the contract. in addition, are we going to ask our adn's to get their bsn in order to continue working? if so, then we need to pay for their education! needless to say the entire room went silent. furthermore, when it comes to the difference in education between adn's and bsn the only difference is the length of time, in other words they are both qualify in my book to function as rn's.

*** good comments. i would have loved to be in that meeting.

lastly, in my staff i have a multitude of adn's that are just as competent as any bsn.... just saying.

*** actually that is/should be the assumption since there is almost no difference in their nursing education. in my roll as instructor in my hospitals critical care nurse residency program. most of the nurse residents turn out to be fine and competent critical care rns. some wash out. we have been unable to predict who will become competent cc rns and who will wash out based on looking at the nursing degree they come to us with. one thing we can predict based on degree, how likely they are to finish their contract. 100% of adns have competeted their two year (now 3 year) contracts after the residency program. about 50% of those who come to the program as new grad bsns finish their contract.

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Hey Azure42

Just wondering how your clinicals are going and how you like thus far?

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up date in our last meeting several of us spoke up and express our concern regarding the issue on hand. having said that, when the opposition kept insisting on not hiring adn's in the future. the rest of us then stated, so our sweet contract with several of our community colleges will end along with their financial support, not to mention the fee involved that we would have to repay those institutions for beaking the contract. in addition, are we going to ask our adn's to get their bsn in order to continue working? if so, then we need to pay for their education! needless to say the entire room went silent. furthermore, when it comes to the difference in education between adn's and bsn the only difference is the length of time, in other words they are both qualify in my book to function as rn's. lastly, in my staff i have a multitude of adn's that are just as competent as any bsn.... just saying.
i think the trend toward bsn's is well entrenched in many parts of the country and given the current nursing surplus, is likely to strengthen.

in my area, there are roughly 2,000 new rn's produced each year, about 50% bsn's, the rest adn's and diploma. nearly all of the postings for hospital jobs state "bsn required". from what i can see, most of the bsn's find employment in hospitals, as do the diploma grads, and the associates degree nurses wind up in ltc. one illustration of this comes from my local cc, which has run a well-regarded and highly competitive nursing program for over 35 years. when i started the nursing program there, several hospitals offered tuition assistance in return for students agreeing to work at that institution upon graduation. unsurprisingly, even as recently as 4 years ago, the overwhelming majority of grads found nursing positions in hospitals.

the 2010 graduating class however, still has a significant number not working as nurses and of those with jobs, the overwhelming majority are working in nursing homes. ironically, even the ltc job market is beginning to show signs of saturation. a 2011 cc grad that i recently spoke with told me she's received more than a dozen rejections from nursing homes because she did not meet their one-year minimum experience requirement.

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does it help chances if you work at the hospital as a medical/unit secretary or lab tech or cna/cnt?

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does it help chances if you work at the hospital as a medical/unit secretary or lab tech or cna/cnt?

Depends. Some hospitals do give preference to new grads who have held a position internally within the system.

Here is what a top rated local NYC hospital (New York Presbyterian) says on their website:

"Our Hiring Process"

"We’re proud to offer a limited number of New Grad Nurse opportunities. There’s no formalized hiring New Grad ‘start date’. NYP offers new hire orientations each month. We hire throughout the year. These positions open either when a unit expands or a current nurse leaves. Note: our nursing turnover rates are well below the national benchmark.

Each year, we receive more qualified applications than we can accommodate on our team. We are committed to placing New Graduate Nurses. We believe in promoting from within. Preference is given to NYP employees who have completed a nursing program, NYP nurse externs, students who rotate throughout NewYork-Presbyterian and employee referrals. If not placed as a New Graduate nurse, we hope that you will consider joining the NYP team throughout your career. Many of our finest nurses have joined our units after spending a year or two elsewhere."

NewYork-Presbyterian Careers

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