Can a teacher do this? - page 3
Ok so I had a midterm yesterday. I have been studying for a little over two weeks straight for this example. I would go over the material she has posted online (she likes to do everything on power int) she also just does her... Read More
- 4Nov 17, '12 by sharpeimom GuideFaculty can't cover absolutely everything in class lectures for a very very simple reason. There is not enough
time! There is so much to cover and time is so limited, that your professors must carefully pick and choose what they can cover during class time.
Should a student choose not to read all of the reading assignments, well then, she must be prepared to live with any consequences of that decision. Pull on your big girl panties and deal with it.
Even though you're allowed to come to allnurses and xxxxx occasionally, you, and you alone, are ultimately responsible for what material you learn and not your professors. I'm not being mean. Just realistic.
- 3Nov 17, '12 by rubatoI reread your original post so that I cannot be accused of not understanding what you wrote. Yes, you sound a little whiny, but I understand what you were trying to get at.
I did great on our first 2 tests and then sucked on our midterm, because of my study habits. Our professors provide powerpoints, then in lecture, they give some additional info. I have mostly only used those for studying. What I have found, personally, is that I now absolutely must read the tables in the chapters that they want us to read as well as hit the high points throughout the chapter. You did, in fact state that you only read a bit of the book, so this may be the problem.
The professors can test you on any part of the material they choose, whether it be from lecture, from powerpoints, from the chapters you were assigned to read or, in our case, from the GTLs (guides to learning), that are a basic outline of what they want us to take away from that subject. It is not like high school. In fact, when you get past anatomy and physiology, it will get harder. I mean, a lot harder!
Please understand that everyone here is, in fact, trying to be supportive. They are trying to make you aware that this is nursing school and it's time for you to own up to your part in your poor test performance. You can't blame your professor if you didn't read all the material. I bet if you go back through the reading material, you'll find those test answers in there. Yes, we are all here to help each other, but we aren't here to blow smoke up someone's a**. I hope you can use this test as a learning experience and do better on the next one. Good luck!
- 1Nov 17, '12 by BostonFNP, MSN, DNP, NP GuideDoing poorly on exam is something almost every nursing student will experience. It is an awful feeling that no one wants to experience, especially in programs that require an 73-83 to pass the class. I bombed a grad exam once, and I distinctly remember the anger I had about the questions because I felt my grade was not reflective of my knowledge of the material. Within a few days it really hit me that it was my fault, I was able to take responsibility for it, move on and pass the class.
Nursing school will not spoon feed you material. This isn't because "that's the way it is": it's because you need to apply knowledge in practice and you need to pass this big exam called the NCLEX at the end of the program for which there is no PowerPoint and you can be asked anything.
You seem to be lashing out at people for not supporting you like people don't understand: we do, most of us have been through nursing school and passed the boards.
- 1Nov 17, '12 by Skips, BSN, RNQuote from DezyI understand your frustration. Are you in nursing school yet, or are you doing your pre-requisites? Each instructor teaches differently, and prepares students differently. Some are more helpful than others. My anatomy instructor was very helpful in preparing us for the tests, and it benefited me greatly! I was very appreciative. My current med-surg I instructor is very helpful in preparing us for the tests by giving us review sheets to work with. She doesn't give us the answers, but it certainly helps. I feel that nursing school has a ton of material, and I think we should get review sheets to help us focus our studying. Each instructor wants different knowledge bases for their students. They determine what they feel is most important for students to take away from their class. So, with it being a little bit subjective to the instructor, I personally believe reviews work. And they work well.Wow everyone is talking to me like I'm fresh out of high school. I'm not, Im 27. Next, this is our 2nd mid term we received on anatomy and this is the third test we have received from this teach which had a totally different writing style. I know about understanding and not merely memorizing and it's not like I'm lazy and do jack all and complain. I work hard and I'm willing to do so bu my frustration lies wih not being told what to review.I know maybe a lot of people have been told to suck it up and deal with it and your on your own but I feel that's a cop out excuse for Someone not to do what they are beig paid good money to do. I want to be successful and I am willing to work my butt off for it. Maybe everyone else on here honks its ok to pass the buck because its always been like that but igot one think there is something messed up about it.I also am surprised by the lack of supportive responses or advi e given. Before people start ramming down my throat to grow up, remember what you have gone through and we are here to help Eachother not make Eachother feel like a pee-on because we're new to the game and need help. Anyone that's sent a supportive message I thank you.
P.s I'm writi from an iPhone please excuse my errors.
With that said, I would definitely have a talk with your instructor. Perhaps you could ask some of your other classmates for their experiences with this instructor's tests. Maybe the majority feel the way you do! (: (if you said that in your original post, I apologize...I read the post last night, and I'm just now responding this morning). I realize your frustration, I really do. Studying all the material (which is quite a bit for these classes) is probably not going to help you retain the tiny details...which some instructors want. I'm not going to tell you to "grow up" because I do think you have an adult, valid concern.
By the way, I am a good student and I read chapters after lectures. I highlight chapters in my book and go over it numerous times. I do not leave studying to the power points, as this does not work.
- 1Nov 17, '12 by nguyency77OP, I understand your frustration. But if changes are not made, you will continue making the same mistakes and getting the same grades. Saying that something is intrinsically unfair about your teacher's methods and whatnot is kind of arbitrary; it does not help you and can only hurt you.
You could make an appointment with your teacher and go over your test. Find out what went wrong-- did you just misunderstand the physiology? Did you mix up names for body parts? That will help you find your weak spots and what you should change.
I know it's easier sometimes to just say that the teacher was being unfair, etc. But it's smarter to learn from it.
- 2Nov 17, '12 by sharpeimom GuideTo borrow one of my mom's more frequently used expressions... "A great part of being a mature and responsible adult, is being willing to accept and live with the consequences of your actions."
When you read all the assigned material and get an "A" on the exam, bask in it! Enjoy that wonderful feeling!
When you only skim the final six chapters and get a "B" on the exam, instead of patting yourself on the back,
remind yourself that you might have had another "A" if only you'd bothered to read those last chapters.
If you blow off some (or all) of the reading assignments and end up with a "C" then be adult enough to admit to yourself and others that that "C" was your own fault instead of the teacher's. Be willing to accept the "C" this time and vow that you'll make more reading time in the future. Remember, just one "C" can lower your QPA a little, but won't get you kicked out of your program.
- 1Nov 17, '12 by dkmamato3Dezy ... A&P is tough and there is a lot of material to learn in a very short amount of time. I feel certain that most students taking A&P is feeling pressure at some point. Lecture and lab can only cover so much. I think my instructor does a good job of comprehensively touching upon the material, there is always some questions on the test that are related to smaller sections of the text that we may or may not have covered during lecture time.
We are also given case studies that ties together lots of detail from section to section to re-inforce the learning that we do. Case study questions are fair game for testing as well and while we discuss the overall points briefly in class there can be alot to them that you really have to make sure you cover on your own or in your case study group.
Keep plugging away at it. You can do it! There is so much to learn and all the material is important. Just remember that it is only going to get harder.
- 2Nov 17, '12 by Rose_Queen, MSN, RN GuideQuote from DezyCollege is not high school. Information is no longer spoonfed to students, nor should it be. The fact that you're paying good money for tuition should be enough incentive for you to do the work required. That work includes reading the entire assignment from the textbook, not just a bit of it. Anything in the lecture, notes, or reading assigned is fair game for a test, whether it was covered in lecture or not. The work world will be the same- you won't be spoonfed information on how to care for patients; you'll either need to know your stuff or know where to look it up. That's what being an adult is all about.I keep thinking if I'm paying good money for tuition, and not being out in a situation she I'm being taught material I'm going to be tested on... It doesn't seem fair!Can anything be done about this?
- 0Nov 17, '12 by dkmamato3Quote from nguyency77Exactly ... learn from what went wrong and then move forward. Last week I did really poorly our online chapter assessment. I thought I was ready to take but the results clearly told me otherwise....my score was below the average of the class for that particular quiz. It stung....it took it to heart and went back to dissect what exactly went wrong. Retraced my understanding and learned from it. Happy to say that I did much better on my muscle exam. I try to look at mistakes and wrong answers as opportunities to learn. Being upset about an unfortunate outcome is understandable - allow yourself to be mad and go kick a tree.....then put yourself back together and learn from it.I know it's easier sometimes to just say that the teacher was being unfair, etc. But it's smarter to learn from it.