Clinical Instructors and lecturers with no hospital experience?

i prefer a lecturer (classroom) that is a new grad. on the other hand, i would of course choose the experienced over the inexperienced CIs in the clinical setting

Maturity, nursing at 16 is not a perfect time for a learning environment in such a responsible career. Folk dancing and swimming and national service are not subjects usually found in other countries nursing degrees and still iv/picc,cvc therapy is not included?

I've sat in classrooms outside the Philippines and I can say, Filipinos take their studies very seriously... Kids at 16 talking about going to college so that they can help their own families...they're not joking when they say that...after all by 18 they are already considered an adult... who says people need to be 18 to start acting mature...

folk dancing and swimming are part of the P.E. pre-req class in any college course.

iv therapy is not included in curriculum because they would like to make money from RNs via certifications...

in my own point of view, clinical instructors should have an experience before they could become a Good Nurse Educators, what will you teach your students if you as a clinical instructor did not even experience the things that you are discussing? its better to discuss your experiences in the clinical setting as a staff nurse rather than just reading and giving out examples to your students. As educators, we should be miles ahead our students when it comes to skills and knowledge, we should not compromise the things our students should learn from us, because if you dont have any clinical experience as a staff nurse, we will just produce a non competent nurse. we should always put in mind the learnings that we can share and impart to our students, not our personal interest or gains of earning money..

experience is the best teacher. how can you share your knowledge and experience if you lack one.

When I graduated 5 years ago (cum laude), I was also being recruited by my school to be a clinical instructor. But I immediately refused.

First I had no competence during that time, and with that, I was not confident.

Experience is the best teacher, and experience will teach seasoned nurses what newly grad nurses don't have: the so called CLINICAL EYE.

It's a very important yet unwritten gauge of assessing how competent a nurse is in the clinical area. Graduating with a lot of medals on your neck won't give you the clinical eye, passing the board exam won't give it to you either. It is acquired through years of learning by experience.

hi! i'm a filipino nurse. i'm not surprised about the fact that Phil RN = Canadian LPN because this really is our only worth as pinoy nurses, unless we undergo additional assessment. i'm very ashamed of being a Filipino nurse!

how sad that filipino nurses need to undergo additional assessment in the west for their credentials to be appropriately and equivalently recognized! but i wouldn't want it any other way because i am sure (relative to nursing experience) the most high tech hospitals in the Philippines are still not at par with even the simplest tertiary hospitals in the west, because that's how poor the health care system is in my country!

i'm not a patriotic and nationalistic Filipino nurse. i will do anything (legal? hehe) just to get out of the country and experience greener pastures down under! btw, american dream is fairy tale

This is harsh. And what is wrong with being an LPN in Canada? No I'm not an LPN, I am a duly certified RN in Canada. However, let me point out that LPNs are VERY SKILLED and their scope of practice is also wide-ranging. Your abovementioned statements are not only judgmental, but they also put you in a pejorative light.

In my view, the reason for the assessment for equivalence in terms of education goes back to the type of secondary school curricula that we currently have. Philippine Educational System does not have grades 11-12. Instead, we go directly to college after graduating from 4th year high school. Too, it should be mentioned, public high schools do not include in their curriculum elective subjects that are very important for pre-university education, those of which are included in Grades 11-12 of the Canadian High School.

However, despite the fact that we had less years in terms of "Education" compared to the Canadians, we certainly did put more hours/day. At least during my time, from grade 1 to 4th year high school, I attended school from 7:00 am to 4:00 pm. Whereas, at least in the province where I am at here in Canada, kids go to school from 9:00 am to 11:30, a break from 11:30-1:00 pm and then go home at at 3:00 pm.

I believe the assessment is necessary in this instance, because there is an obvious difference between the two curricula. Furthermore, I would like to state that I know of several nurses who worked in the US who were only required to pass CGFNS, NCLEX and IELTS/TOEFL (pre-retrogression policy), of course with a backing of solid Nursing experience. Note also that I have been assessed by the Nursing Body in my province before I was deemed qualified to take the CRNExams. However, I was not required to go for any additional schooling, I just passed my credentials and waited until I got an approval from the Nursing Body.

When I graduated 5 years ago (cum laude), I was also being recruited by my school to be a clinical instructor. But I immediately refused.

First I had no competence during that time, and with that, I was not confident.

Experience is the best teacher, and experience will teach seasoned nurses what newly grad nurses don't have: the so called CLINICAL EYE.

It's a very important yet unwritten gauge of assessing how competent a nurse is in the clinical area. Graduating with a lot of medals on your neck won't give you the clinical eye, passing the board exam won't give it to you either. It is acquired through years of learning by experience.

Very well said. Even I wouldn't dare accept the offer considering having zero experience.

It's like being asked to coach a pro basketball team without having even spent time in the pro leagues even as a former player or coaching staff.

During the abundance of nursing enrollees, nursing schools are forced to accept CI's who have no clinical experience, as long as they are taking their MAN. This though sometimes turn out to be a disaster as the CI himself/herself makes an embarassing, incorrect and improper clinical demonstration during duty in front of his/her students. And what's worse, the students knew what he/she was doing was not how it was supposed to be done.

Now though, some nursing schools have set their standards to have their CI with at least 2 years clinical experience, plus MAN. It's also for the credibility of the school.