What can I do locally if I am against the mandatory flu vaccine? - page 3

by lolakbolak 5,342 Views | 36 Comments

I still believe in personal choice regardless of what president Obama mandates me to do. If I was a drug company giant and stood to make billions of dollars by pushing a vaccine or drug, I might just interfere in policy and... Read More


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    moved to Pandemic flu forum for bet responses/discussion
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    Quote from morte
    I have had 62 winters, and never known to have had the flu. The children Ladyfree's post, I would bet you had underlying conditions. HOW many persons actually die of the "flu"? I am thinking rather few. But the federal government, yes the CMMS is the feds after all, wants to force me to have the vaccine, or I can't work, d/t reduced recompense for my employer. Make no mistake, they know exactly what the consequence of that proposed reg was, they get what they want and are protected from lawsuit. Remember that small group of preg. women in Oz in the ICU with the flu? All of them (4or 5, I think) were IgG def, what is the vac going to do for them? We need to understand that death is inevitable, for some it will be flu or the sequelae there of. And no, I am not anti most vaccines, diptheria, pertussis, tetanus, cool with me.
    Each pt had no underlying problems, no asthma, nothing, all healthy kids...those parents who are suffering did not possibly THINK that they had to decide to take their children off life support because they were HEALTHY.


    The flu can be deadly for anyone...don't think that you have to have an underlying "condition" and lull yourself into a false sense of security...those people or children in our communities end up in the ICU. A few yes, but it doesn't matter...it's REAL.
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    Influenza-Associated Pediatric Mortality

    Pediatric influenza mortality statistics from CDC surveillance.
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    5 week old, full term healthy not an issue in the world infant. At 6 weeks, intubated, and clinging to life.
    You know what? If someone thinks their own immune system can fight the flu, that is awesome, however, think about those among us whose can't.
    For myself, I was never one to get sick. Ever. Just didn't. Don't like meds, shots, or to be told I "HAD" to do a thing when it came to decisions about my body. And it hit me like a ton of bricks. Since I have had a shot each year, I (and I don't take any regular meds, and when I have had to in the past, I am not one to react well to most meds) have never gotten ill from the shot, and thankfully, have never had even a quarter of the illness that the flu was.
    Peoples own choices are just that, people's own choices. But the life you save may not be your own, but someone who is too young to get a shot.
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    Good day:

    Is the CDC Wrong to Endorse Tamiflu? - Nextgov.com is an interesting read.

    Thank you.
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    Quote from lolakbolak
    I still believe in personal choice regardless of what president Obama mandates me to do.
    If I was a drug company giant and stood to make billions of dollars by pushing a vaccine or drug, I might just interfere in policy and advertising to increase my profit. If you have a patient who is struggling to recover after GBS and it doesn't bother you a bit, then I am at a loss for words. Does anybody know exactly what the flu vaccine contains? How confident are you in these drug trials where billions of dollars at at stake?
    I actually do have a patient recovering from GBS.....

    Did you know you can just as easily, if not more so, get GBS from the flu itself?
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    did they look for anything but the flu during post mortem?? Do you think the women in Oz would have been considered anything but a flu death, if that ONE ID doc hadn't been curious enough to look for something else? heck no.
    Quote from LadyFree28
    Each pt had no underlying problems, no asthma, nothing, all healthy kids...those parents who are suffering did not possibly THINK that they had to decide to take their children off life support because they were HEALTHY.


    The flu can be deadly for anyone...don't think that you have to have an underlying "condition" and lull yourself into a false sense of security...those people or children in our communities end up in the ICU. A few yes, but it doesn't matter...it's REAL.
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    and getting the shot, doesn't mean we can't share the virus. again, what about THIS infant, or its immediate surroundings caused/contributed to this out come.
    Quote from jadelpn
    5 week old, full term healthy not an issue in the world infant. At 6 weeks, intubated, and clinging to life.
    You know what? If someone thinks their own immune system can fight the flu, that is awesome, however, think about those among us whose can't.
    For myself, I was never one to get sick. Ever. Just didn't. Don't like meds, shots, or to be told I "HAD" to do a thing when it came to decisions about my body. And it hit me like a ton of bricks. Since I have had a shot each year, I (and I don't take any regular meds, and when I have had to in the past, I am not one to react well to most meds) have never gotten ill from the shot, and thankfully, have never had even a quarter of the illness that the flu was.
    Peoples own choices are just that, people's own choices. But the life you save may not be your own, but someone who is too young to get a shot.
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    Quote from morte
    and getting the shot, doesn't mean we can't share the virus. again, what about THIS infant, or its immediate surroundings caused/contributed to this out come.
    It's true that you can still share the virus after getting vaccinated, you're just less likely to do so, which is a worthy goal.
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    how less likely?
    Quote from MunoRN
    It's true that you can still share the virus after getting vaccinated, you're just less likely to do so, which is a worthy goal.


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