H1N1 vaccine... why it should be MY choice!

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This young lady become disabled 10 days after receiving the H1N1 vaccine. I'm not saying it was caused but the vaccine, but I am saying that this is a good reason why it should be each nurse's choice if we get the vaccine, not managements! Of course the media are going to highlight the "1 in a million" stories like this, but it just proves that my body does not belong to management and I should control what is pumped into it! I'm not exactly tech savvy, so let's see if this link works... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScGC7nFDxM

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CuriousMe, my apologies for posting on a quote back to you.

My comments were about this statement:

"Always frightening to see folks with no morals/ethics lurking within the profession"

The statement seemed to come out of nowhere, and being a jaded nurse, I couldn't help but laugh,

when I realized the poster was not in nursing school yet, but did not hestitate to make a judgement

about the profession before becoming a member. OK, maybe it wasn't that funny, but it tickled this

old nurse anyway.

Peace.

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^^^^^^^ :nono::down:

Not forced...just lose your livelihood.

So what's next? "Do it or lose it" abortions for nurses who become pregnant when a hospital is short staffed? After all, if they don't like it, they can get a job someplace else, right?

An extreme example (maybe?) but one's apparent desire to put one's body at the mercy of one's employer requires nothing less.

Green hair, 15 earrings, and TB tests are much different than fast-tracked vaccines. You're comparing apples and oranges.

I suppose one would toss a patient out in the street if he refused to submit to the vaccine as well?

Oh my bad, I didn't see where the employers would break your legs on the way out of the hospital so you would "lose your livelihood" (nice emotive language there...).

How is being mandated to receive a Mantoux test, varicella vaccine, MMR, etc.. any different than being mandated to get a flu shot? Or even the green hair and earrings. In any event, your argument seems to be that it's YOUR body so YOU decide. My point is that you can keep those rights, certainly. Leaving a job because you disagree with your employer's standpoint happens millions of times a day. It's not being "forced to lose your livelihood". It has nothing to do with abortions either, because there is no public health risk from having a baby. However I am sure you know that, and you're going for the old 1-2 punch of life and liberty being at risk from the flu shot requirement.

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So what's next? "Do it or lose it" abortions for nurses who become pregnant when a hospital is short staffed? After all, if they don't like it, they can get a job someplace else, right?

An extreme example (maybe?) but your apparent desire to put your body at the mercy of your employer requires nothing less.

"Maybe" How ironic that you then go on to write that someone compared apples and oranges. Shall we take a ski down your slippery slope argument?

On the one hand, our starting point: a public safety policy with a two-fold aim, first to reduce the transmission of a virulent flu strain by innoculating those at the front line and therefore greatest exposure, and second to protect the workers who will be among the most needed if essential services become compromised.

And on the other hand, our destination: forcible terminations of pregnancy by employers who have a staffing shortfall.

And in the middle, our method of transportation: that this public policy is either the same as or equivalent to an employer having full control over the bodies of employees.

Hmm. Slippery slope arguments are often used in philosophical arguments involving ethics. Like straw men arguments, they're typically employed when a weak argument needs to look impressive but can't stand on its own intellectual merits. Though they can be effective from a dramatic point of view, they rarely stand up to any form of scrutiny.

I would suggest that someone who doesn't know how to construct an argument in the area would do well to keep to her- or himself remarks about the ethics and morals of other people. Actually, even someone who can construct a philosophically rigorous argument might chose to hold off commenting on the morality and ethics of strangers until someone actually presents an unethical or immoral position. I haven't seen one on this thread, yet.

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Ouch. You just gave me a headache! ;)

Specializes in Medical.

Crunch, if that was in response to me - sorry, sometimes philosophy hurts, especially if you hit someone over the head with it. Or if it's Kant.

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

I recover quickly! LOL!

Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.

Please note:

Many posts in this thread have either been heavily edited or deleted.

Please keep personalizations out of the discussion. This only serves to be divisive and derail the thread.

Would hate to close this thread after all this time and effort was made to educate one another (respectfully) about choice...

Thanks.

The important thing is we have each other. lol.

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