Share you Deaconess Experiences! - page 2

I've started looking into the Deaconess route for the LPN to RN program. I'd appreciate it if anyone would share their experiences (good and bad) with Deaconess, even if you decided not to... Read More

  1. by   fotografe
    Been watching the debate here, and aren't EC and Deaconess just two different programs? As I understand, Deaconess you are actually instructed, and do clinicals, whereas EC you study on your own and take exams and then have a clinical test at the end.
    Also, can't you enter Deaconess with no prior medical experience, whereas with EC you have to be an LPN or EMT?

    Anyway, there are a lot of schools that cost less than Deaconess, and a lot that cost more, but the distance format is essential to some that can not do other programs. I am not doing either, but am doing all of my pre-reqs online, and can tell you, I am paying a bit more for that service and it is worth it to me. To each his own.
  2. by   kimlpn
    i think deaconess is a great way to go for those that can not attend traditional college courses and have no clinical back ground. i really don't think it is tooo unreasonable considering that this college allows for most students to receive some kind of student aid. my husband received his bachelors degree from uf traditionally--talk about debt lol! uf is a state school--was it worth it? yes. learning is invaluable and what a great way to invest. i did ec because i have been an lpn for almost 10 years...had i not had experience in the field i would have highly considered deaconess. good luck to all deaconess students!!!! i have heard more positives than negatives about this nursing program.
    kim




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  3. by   kate930
    I really appreciate EVERYONE'S input on this topic (even the EC input).

    My biggest reason for turning to Deaconess is the problems that Kansas is now having with EC and not being able to take the boards. I live on the Kansas-Missouri state line (about 3 miles from the KS line), so having the ability to practice in both Missouri and Kansas are important to me.

    I have heard good things from those who've went the EC route, however I am concerned about what other states might follow Kansas. I would hate to invest time and money and have the floor drop out on me.

    Back to Deaconess questions.... What is the clinical week like? I think I also heard something about needing to find a local site that would allow me to do clinicals..... anyone know anything about this? St. Louis is only about a 4 hours drive for me, so it's no issue to make the trip each semester.

    Thanks to all of you!
  4. by   Jay-Jay
    Locking this thread until posters cool off, and stop sniping at each other!

    Okay, thread has been edited and re-opened, and the guilty parties PM'd. Any further flames will result in its permanent locking. Please RESPECT EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS!!
  5. by   can'twait
    Hi, any replies yet on Kate930's questions re: Deaconess clinicals? Am interested to know too because I'm looking at Deaconess as a possibility. Thanks everybody.
  6. by   fry.girl
    Quote from kate930
    What is the clinical week like? I think I also heard something about needing to find a local site that would allow me to do clinicals..... anyone know anything about this?
    kate930,

    I have only attended the 1st semseter basic skills evaluation which is done in the lab. From what I have been told by my professors, the clinical validation week is completed at the end of semseters 2-6 (the LPN to RN students only complete semesters 4-6). During a 4 day weekend students demonstrate specific nursing skills at Forest Park Hospital (Deaconess is located on same campus). Students are given patient assignments and work on the floor as a group with their professor who follows them and checks off on their skills performed.

    As far as your clinical hours during the semester, students are required to find a local facility for clinical practice unless they are close enough to St Louis to attend Deaconess's clinical practice at Forest Park Hospital. Deaconess establishes an affiliate contract with the facility you find willing to provide you with precepted instruction. Because you are considering the LPN to RN program you would be required to complete ~72 hours of clinical practice time per semester (for three semesters).

    I hope this is helpful.

    Cheri
  7. by   can'twait
    Quote from cbarnett2
    kate930,

    I have only attended the 1st semseter basic skills evaluation which is done in the lab. From what I have been told by my professors, the clinical validation week is completed at the end of semseters 2-6 (the LPN to RN students only complete semesters 4-6). During a 4 day weekend students demonstrate specific nursing skills at Forest Park Hospital (Deaconess is located on same campus). Students are given patient assignments and work on the floor as a group with their professor who follows them and checks off on their skills performed.

    As far as your clinical hours during the semester, students are required to find a local facility for clinical practice unless they are close enough to St Louis to attend Deaconess's clinical practice at Forest Park Hospital. Deaconess establishes an affiliate contract with the facility you find willing to provide you with precepted instruction. Because you are considering the LPN to RN program you would be required to complete ~72 hours of clinical practice time per semester (for three semesters).

    I hope this is helpful.

    Cheri
    Hi, another question. Do you take your pre reqs at Deaconess also or somewhere else (for thr LPN to RN program)?
  8. by   mona b RN
    Quote from can'twait
    Hi, another question. Do you take your pre reqs at Deaconess also or somewhere else (for thr LPN to RN program)?

    You can take your prereq's elsewhere. Usually this is no problem. However, one thing I will stress is to always get approval from them in regards to what to take, etc.

    Good Luck
  9. by   fry.girl
    Quote from can'twait
    Hi, another question. Do you take your pre reqs at Deaconess also or somewhere else (for thr LPN to RN program)?
    I have taken prereqs through my local CC. The only one I had to do through Deaconess (actually through their affiliate Fontebonne) was Interpersonal Communication, this one can is difficult to find an equivalent for so most everyone takes it through Deaconess.

    I am doing the full ASN program as I am not an LPN, but the prereqs are the same except that LPNs do not have to take Nutrition and Developmental Psych as these are part of the credits awarded to LPNs based on their licensure.

    Cheri
    Last edit by fry.girl on Jan 19, '05
  10. by   fry.girl
    Quote from mona b
    You can take your prereq's elsewhere. Usually this is no problem. However, one thing I will stress is to always get approval from them in regards to what to take, etc.

    Good Luck
    Most credits qualify for transfer but always verify transfer eligibility before starting any new courses...just to be on the safe side...(especially on the sciences)

    Cheri
  11. by   camm
    Quote from mona b
    Hi Kate,

    I would be happy to share my experiences with DCN. I am pretty happy with the program. The instructors are great and I am learning a lot. Currently, I am in my 4 semester and I will graduate in Dec 05. The pros of this program would be the online format/delivery and the autonomy that it provides. The cons are that communication could be better and the traveling to St Louis each semester.

    If your interested, go for it. I think that the other poster who said that the waiting list is much shorter for the LPN is correct.

    Feel free to pm me for more info and good luck in whatever you decide.
    Hi Mona, I am in my second semester at Deaconess. I am complete maternal/child and peds this semester. What state do you live in and where are you completing your clinicals? I am having a hard time finding facilities for my preceptor. Did you also take courses during the summer semester?
  12. by   mona b RN
    Quote from camm
    Hi Mona, I am in my second semester at Deaconess. I am complete maternal/child and peds this semester. What state do you live in and where are you completing your clinicals? I am having a hard time finding facilities for my preceptor. Did you also take courses during the summer semester?

    Hi Camm,

    I have a couple of prospects for a clinical site but the final paperwork is not done yet. Sometimes finding a hospital can be very difficult. Have you called all the hospitals in your area?

    Yes, I did take courses in the summer. It was Ped and maternal child so there were not as many hours to juggle.

    Keep us posted and feel free to PM me.
  13. by   studentdeb
    I didn't know there was an online program that you could do without prior medical experience. I am very interested and haven't seen anything posted regarding how labs are done (unless I missed it)

    From what I'm reading, you do the lecture portion online, find a clinical site in the area you live, but is there a lab portion? Somewhere to practice what is being learned?

    Thanks in advance

    Debi

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