Matt Lauer Fired due to Inappropriate Sexual Behavior. Has This Happened to You? - page 3

Heard this am about this from NBC News: Matt Lauer fired for inappropriate behavior. Here is the NBC video regarding the announcement. What is your opinion? Have you encountered sexual... Read More

  1. by   ~♪♫ in my ♥~
    Quote from beekee
    Men have just as much of a right to not be harassed, assaulted or raped as women do. The gender of the perpetrators and the victims does not matter. It all needs to end. It's not too much to ask to feel safe at work (or school, the bus, home, or anywhere else you might want to venture).
    As I said, it's certainly not fair nor appropriate.

    However, I think at the current moment in our national psyche and dialog, it's inappropriate for men to pipe up with "me, too."
  2. by   ElvishDNP
    Quote from beekee
    Men have just as much of a right to not be harassed, assaulted or raped as women do. The gender of the perpetrators and the victims does not matter. It all needs to end. It's not too much to ask to feel safe at work (or school, the bus, home, or anywhere else you might want to venture).
    Agreed, 100%. The male victims of Kevin Spacey's abuse should be supported and believed just as the female victims of [insert whatever powerful man is behaving badly today, because tomorrow there will be another].

    The most enormous difference is, women are socialized our entire lives to keep men happy. To keep them from getting angry with us, because who is to say that the butt grab today, if we report it or tell them to stop, won't turn into an assault on our lives tomorrow? Women are told we shouldn't wear that dress, or we shouldn't be drinking, or we shouldn't be at that party, or we shouldn't be out alone at night, and a ton of other unwritten rules that men as a group literally never have to spend a second thinking about, in order to 'prevent' sexual assault. The reality is, men need to behave better.

    Most (if not all) women I know have a story to tell about sexual harassment or sexual assault. Most if not all women I know take precautions to attempt keep themselves safe in literally every public space they ever go to. Does every man you know have to do this? If not, why not?
  3. by   Daisy Joyce
    Part of the problem is that girls are still socialized to be nice and sweet and get along.
    Girls also doubt themselves (was it really as bad as I remember? Was it really that big a deal?)
    Some men also have a nasty trick of mocking at an allegation of inappropriate conduct with an insult ("please, like i would really go after someone who looks like that")("yeah well, she should be flattered")
    Girls need to learn their value has nothing to do with their looks, their popularity, or what they can do for people.
  4. by   Everline
    Yes, it has happened to me more than once in my lifetime. It was awful. No one cared. At those times, it was just "one of those things". You know, boys will be boys. Men will be men.

    It still makes me sad and angry.
  5. by   Nurse Beth
    Often as women we are taken by surprise and let an incident go to not rock the boat. Sometimes we don't even fully realize
    what's happened until later.
  6. by   buffalobilly
    '...nearly all women...'? I seriously doubt 'nearly all women' have been harassed in some fashion. If so, then it would be naive to say they are 'harassed' at a higher frequency than men.
  7. by   heron
    Quote from buffalobilly
    '...nearly all women...'? I seriously doubt 'nearly all women' have been harassed in some fashion. If so, then it would be naive to say they are 'harassed' at a higher frequency than men.
    This makes no sense at all.
  8. by   Penelope_Pitstop
    While working in healthcare (my industry since 2005), no.

    While working in the restaurant industry, multiple times by multiple managers.
  9. by   ~♪♫ in my ♥~
    Quote from buffalobilly
    '...nearly all women...'? I seriously doubt 'nearly all women' have been harassed in some fashion. If so, then it would be naive to say they are 'harassed' at a higher frequency than men.
    In the broadest definition of harassment and expanding the scope beyond the workplace, I think it's probably true that the large majority of women have been harassed at some point in their lives.

    To claim that women are no more likely to be harassed than men is absurd because of the power inequality in what remains a patriarchal society.
  10. by   Teresag_CNS
    I was interviewed two days ago by NBC news reporter Elizabeth Chuck regarding sexual harassment of nurses. She wants to hear from others. My interview lasted about 15 minutes. We need to tell these stories. Thank you for speaking up, nurses!
    Last edit by traumaRUs on Dec 6
  11. by   kbrn2002
    I guess I have a different take on what constitutes sexual harassment than some do. If pressed I'd have to say sure, I was groped, grabbed inappropriately, dealt with more sexual verbal advances than I can count. But they were from old men suffering from dementia. Some might say that's no excuse, but I feel otherwise. The men, or in a couple of more unusual cases women in question no longer had control over their actions or behavior. I can say I've never been harassed by a peer at work nor do I personally know anybody that has. Now I'm not discounting the stories that others have told, just saying it's never happened to me or anybody I personally know.
  12. by   nursekayde1978
    This is very sad but true. Not having been the victim of sexual harassment or overly aggressive sexual conduct/innuendos is very rare.
  13. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from kbrn2002
    I guess I have a different take on what constitutes sexual harassment than some do. If pressed I'd have to say sure, I was groped, grabbed inappropriately, dealt with more sexual verbal advances than I can count. But they were from old men suffering from dementia. Some might say that's no excuse, but I feel otherwise. The men, or in a couple of more unusual cases women in question no longer had control over their actions or behavior. I can say I've never been harassed by a peer at work nor do I personally know anybody that has. Now I'm not discounting the stories that others have told, just saying it's never happened to me or anybody I personally know.
    It's probably happened to a lot of people you know; you just don't know about it. I'm willing to bet that at least 1 in 4 of the people you know have been harassed in a big way, something that would result in felony charges or in the toppling of a privileged male from his tower. And I'll bet MOST of the women you know have been subject to uncomfortable and unwelcome advances. They may not have told you about it for a number of reasons, but the first one that springs to mind is that you don't seem open to hearing about it.

    Never had a married male doctor invite you to dinner because "the wife is out of town"? Never had a physician put his arm around your shoulders and "accidentally" brush your breast with his fingers? Never had a prominent physician tell you "You'd be really pretty if . . ."? or tell you to smile more? (Never hears them tell the male nurses to smile more.) Never had someone stand too close to you on an elevator, in the OR, in rounds? Never had anyone grab your ass or pinch you as a "joke"? Never had one loom over you as you're charting and tell you about how he's had fantasies about nurses? Never had someone rub his crotch over your ass as you're standing on the subway, trying to pretend this isn't happening? Never been described as "the one with the biggest knockers" by a male colleague? Never had a cop tell you he'd tear up your speeding ticket in return for sexual favors? Never been called out (while a news crew is taping an interview of Dr. WorldFamousInfectiousDiseaseSpecialist) for being over weight -- as if that were any of his business or his concern.

    The list is endless, and I'm willing to bet that MOST women have suffered from sexual harassment. The thing is, we were always told it wasn't that big of a deal and we should just get over it. Now we're being told differently.

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